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RE: [Link] Great read on what Republicans / conservatives should do to win elections
You can only serve one of two masters. You cannot serve both

The ones that elect you or the ones that magically increase your net worth 300% in a matter of a few years. The later has been winning for decades now and the former is ever being challenged as ‘election month’ is new reality and ‘voting’ is being squeezed out
01-27-2023 10:21 AM
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(01-27-2023 10:19 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(01-27-2023 10:13 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Well except green energy is nothing but a scam.

Wanna shed some light on this statement?

Maybe perform an ROI calculation on a wind turbine and let it open your eyes.
01-28-2023 10:50 AM
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(01-27-2023 10:19 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(01-27-2023 10:13 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Well except green energy is nothing but a scam.

Wanna shed some light on this statement?

When the State of California effectively outlaws the sales of new gasoline powered vehicles in 2035 yet they have rolling electrical blackouts because they don’t have enough electricity to power what they have in 2022, there’s a problem.

I realize sometimes you drive a stake in the ground and work towards it. I hope the crazies in California are successful. I’m just not convinced technology will be available to do this by 2035.
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RE: [Link] Great read on what Republicans / conservatives should do to win elections
What would be wrong with adopting a platform to do everything that makes technological and economic sense now, while continuing to research and develop technologies that offer promise for the future?

Things to do today:
- Build nuclear power generating plants. Right now, that is the only way to generate large amounts of carbon-free electricity. Adopt the French approach of developing the safest and most implementable technology, and replicating it over and over, rather than reinventing the wheel with each new plant.
- Convert the rail system back to electricity, like Europe. That is a much easier conversion than cars and trucks, because trains can get electricity from wires/hot rails as they go rather than having to take it with themselves in batteries.
- As power supplies grow to permit it, convert as many prime movers as possible to electricity.
- Adopt the Brazilian approach of sugar-cane-based ethanol, which is far more efficient than corn-based. In conjunction, start sugar cane production in Latin America as a way to generate more ethanol and also provide economic incentives for Caribbean/Central/South Americans not to immigrate in drives to the USA.
- Incentivize/subsidize energy conservation practices across the board.

Things to research and develop in future, include scope and infrastructure required:
- Improved battery/electric storage, as a way to make both electric cars and solar/wind generation more feasible.
- Improved electric transmission and distribution systems, including hardening systems against terror and hacking strikes.
- Develop further the German WWII technologies to convert coal to liquefy and gasify coal into cleaner-burning synthetic oil and gas. The problem as been that those processes generate large amounts of CO2, but point-source CO2 is much easier to capture that from widespread sources, and captured CO2 can be used for lift in oil and gas producing formations and other possible uses such as feeding kelp fields that can then produce biomass.

Set a goal that we will meet or exceed every one of our targets for emission reduction under the Paris accords, just like we did with Kyoto, while withdrawing from the bureaucratic nightmare of Paris, again just like we did for Kyoto.

ETA: One other thing that I would strongly support that may seem antithetical is increased domestic oil and gas production. I would not go into ANWR just yet, save it for a rainy day. And I wouldn't tap the SPR under anything less than wartime, instead fill it up as full as possible and sit on it as a safety net. But otherwise I would reverse everything that Biden did, and take further steps to enhance/increase production. Why? Two reasons: 1) USA domestic production is far less damaging to the environment than most foreign, including eliminating the transportation need. 2) Environmentalism is a rich person's game. The better off you are economically, the more you can find the incentive to support environmental measures. When you don't know where your next meal is coming from, you tend not to worry about the temperature of the planet in 2123. So keeping the economy robust is a key to building support for environmental measures, and domestic energy production is good for the economy.
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01-28-2023 11:34 AM
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(01-28-2023 11:13 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(01-27-2023 10:19 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(01-27-2023 10:13 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Well except green energy is nothing but a scam.

Wanna shed some light on this statement?

When the State of California effectively outlaws the sales of new gasoline powered vehicles in 2035 yet they have rolling electrical blackouts because they don’t have enough electricity to power what they have in 2022, there’s a problem.

I realize sometimes you drive a stake in the ground and work towards it. I hope the crazies in California are successful. I’m just not convinced technology will be available to do this by 2035.


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01-28-2023 12:46 PM
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(01-27-2023 09:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(01-27-2023 09:17 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Ballot harvest. Dems do it, GOP needs to do it too.

you do realize registered dems outnumber the pubs, Ja?!

If they start playing the ballot harvesting game similar to how the Democrats have, it should make a difference in at least some of those close races that they have lost recently - Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, etc.
01-28-2023 02:31 PM
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