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RE: STR Emoni Bates
(01-26-2023 01:12 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 01:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 12:27 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 12:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Where have you been for the last 5 yrs? Even Penny has stated we need to win early & the AAC conference NCAA bid history speaks for itself (ours as well - you never did answer how many years prior to last season since our last bid). It's why Penny has upped the OOC schedule. Your arguments are lame & completely unrelated to whether Bates (& other guards that I mentioned) are having good years. But I suppose you have to find something to argue about.

Actually, all of my posts were specifically regarding Bates until you derailed this thread with more of your nonsense, but you keep doing you. You can't even stay on topic with all of the bouncing around to deflect that you do. Tell me again how we had to win OOC to make the tournament, because that's not what happened. Unless my memory is failing me, we surely made the second round in spite of performing poorly against cupcakes.

Atlanta and Simple Jack. Two peas in a pod.

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Argue with Penny over the need to win early but it's obvious given the AAC track record for NCAA bids. But glad to see you spend so much time looking up my past comments. Glad to know I'm in your head rent free, lol. You are way too easy.....

He never said we wouldn't make the tournament (because we certainly didn't win OOC), unlike you. Again, just stop. Haven't you noticed? Nobody believes you and the only person who supports your drivel is Simple Jack. Enough said. It's clear that you're triggered and everybody is laughing at you, are you a masochist?

If you want to stubbornly bury your head in the sand (or your derriere) that's your prerogative, but for the sake of the board, I will agree to disagree. Feel better?

Focus...I never said we wouldn't make the tournament. You are just making things up. I'm not asking anyone to believe me either I'm just giving you the facts but you prefer the Koolaid.
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RE: STR Emoni Bates
(01-26-2023 01:31 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Focus...I never said we wouldn't make the tournament. You are just making things up. I'm not asking anyone to believe me either I'm just giving you the facts but you prefer the Koolaid.

English must be a second language for you? ¿Hablas español? Simple Jack and you, peas in a pod. Now stop with your circular, dishonest drivel.

(11-28-2021 09:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  The way this conference is viewed, we have to win early OOC to ensure we even make the tourney.
01-26-2023 01:35 PM
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RE: STR Emoni Bates
(01-26-2023 01:35 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 01:31 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Focus...I never said we wouldn't make the tournament. You are just making things up. I'm not asking anyone to believe me either I'm just giving you the facts but you prefer the Koolaid.

English must be a second language for you? ¿Hablas español? Simple Jack and you, peas in a pod. Now stop with your circular, dishonest drivel.

(11-28-2021 09:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  The way this conference is viewed, we have to win early OOC to ensure we even make the tourney.

Seems I have to repeat myself with you, argue with Penny about the need to win early. He agrees. And by the way, AGAIN, when was the last time we made the NCAA tourney prior to last season? When was the last time Memphis received a high seed to the tourney? While you are wringing your hands, I'll provide part of the answer - we aren't likely to receive a high seed unless we win the AAC & play a strong OOC schedule.
01-26-2023 01:49 PM
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RE: STR Emoni Bates
(01-26-2023 01:35 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 01:31 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Focus...I never said we wouldn't make the tournament. You are just making things up. I'm not asking anyone to believe me either I'm just giving you the facts but you prefer the Koolaid.

English must be a second language for you? ¿Hablas español? Simple Jack and you, peas in a pod. Now stop with your circular, dishonest drivel.

(11-28-2021 09:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  The way this conference is viewed, we have to win early OOC to ensure we even make the tourney.

Seems I have to repeat myself with you, argue with Penny about the need to win early. He agrees. And by the way AGAIN, when was the last time made the NCAA tourney prior to last season? When was the last time Memphis received a high seed to the tourney? While you are wringing your hands, I'll provide part of the answer - we aren't likely to receive a high seed unless we win the AAC & play a strong OOC schedule.
01-26-2023 01:50 PM
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RE: STR Emoni Bates
(01-26-2023 09:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 09:34 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 10:23 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
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(01-25-2023 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  You are as usual, being dishonest. Boogie had threatened to go home starting during his freshman season. Everyone (even you) knows this.

Here are Baugh's stats before and after Lomax' injury.

17 Games Before Lomax Injury
17.9 Minutes
3.5 Points
2.3 Assists
1.6 Turnovers
44.4% Field Goal
35.7% 3 Point (14 in 17 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
68.8% Free Throws

9 Games After Lomax Injury
22.8 Minutes
2.7 Points
2.0 Assists
1.0 Turnovers
35.7% Field Goal
0.0% 3 Point (5 attempts in 9 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
66.7% Free Throws

Baugh had 9 games without having to supposedly look over his shoulder for Lomax, and did worse with the additional playing time. Lomax played 22.7 minutes per game for the season, and that is based on my calculations not including Mississippi State, where he played 1 minute at the end of the game.

For 4 years you have constantly crapped on Lomax. During his recruitment you constantly told EVERYONE that they were IDIOTS for thinking that Lomax wasn't going to be a great point guard his entire career. Apparently high school rankings were for the birds and you knew better.

To summarize.

- During his recruitment, telling everyone Lomax was going to be a star
- During his entire career, relentlessly putting Lomax down
- Claiming Baugh didn't get an opportunity here, when he played 20 minutes per game as a freshman and sophmore.
- For his Memphis career, Baugh averaged less than 4 points and around 2.5 assists per game
- He was even worse AFTER Lomax got hurt

So that's where we are. You have had this explained to you dozens of times.

Not only that...
The 2019-20 season:
sophomore Lomax had 4 starts and avg 24 minutes
freshman Baugh had 25 and avg 21 minutes
freshman Boogie had 27 starts and avg 25 minutes

The next year:
Lomax had 4 starts and avg 22 minutes
Baugh had 4 starts and avg 20 minutes
Boogie had 15 starts and avg 23 minutes

The guys had opportunities.

Apparently better opportunities or development since & I'm thinking neither Boogie's current coach or Baugh's would trade them for Alo.

Very different players - all 3. No one except you is comparing Baugh & Boogie to Lomax - in a thread about Emoni.

I simply made the statement, "Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night", which was a true statement germane to the fact that other GUARDS previously at Memphis were also having a good year" (but it didn't require a separate thread). You took that statement and turned that into a statistical presentation of performance two years ago at Memphis, which has nothing to do with my statement or current performance. And many think all three of the departed guards could have possibly made our current team better had they stayed, been developed & given the opportunities they have at their new schools (although I have my doubts Bates could/would ever be a team player but there should be no doubt we could use his perimeter shooting if it came without his negatives).

Simply made the statement? Hahaha 04-drinky 01-wingedeagle03-lmfao

Quote:Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are. I'm thinking Boogie & Baugh would have been a fine Memphis backcourt if they had been given the minutes they have received on their current teams - they've proven themselves with PT.

AFTER Lomax got injured, Baugh had 23 minutes per game. These are his stats...

9 Games After Lomax Injury
22.8 Minutes
2.7 Points
2.0 Assists
1.0 Turnovers
35.7% Field Goal
0.0% 3 Point (5 attempts in 9 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
66.7% Free Throws

Atlanta thinks Baugh should have been rewarded for 2.7 points and 2 assists with 33 minutes per game of playing time as a freshman and sophmore. Hilarious, as always.
01-26-2023 01:52 PM
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(01-26-2023 10:15 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 10:10 AM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 09:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I simply made the statement, "Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night", which was a true statement germane to the fact that other GUARDS previously at Memphis were also having a good year" (but it didn't require a separate thread). You took that statement and turned that into a statistical presentation of performance two years ago at Memphis, which has nothing to do with my statement or current performance. And many think all three of the departed guards could have possibly made our current team better had they stayed, been developed & given the opportunities they have at their new schools (although I have my doubts Bates could/would ever be a team player but there should be no doubt we could use his perimeter shooting if it came without his negatives).

Nobody believes your nonsense. You were using it as yet another vehicle to take a dig at Penny and the team. If you cared about honesty, you would have mentioned that you immediately followed it up with:

(01-25-2023 07:39 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are. I'm thinking Boogie & Baugh would have been a fine Memphis backcourt if they had been given the minutes they have received on their current teams - they've proven themselves with PT.

So stop pretending and trying to play the innocent.

Maybe you ought to advertise as a psychic - naw, word would get around you have no idea what you're talking about & you'd have no customers. And I didn't "follow up", I replied to a comment.

He ought to advertise as a psychic? You wanted a player that averaged 2.7 points and 2 assists per game to play 33 minutes per game immediately.
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RE: STR Emoni Bates
(01-26-2023 12:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 11:47 AM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 11:45 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 11:36 AM)msu35 Wrote:  
(11-28-2021 09:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  And we are developing a long history of not even making the tourney much less get a high seed. The way this conference is viewed, we have to win early OOC to ensure we even make the tourney.

Thanks for all of the laughs.

Current performance IS current performance not two years ago. You know, just like the OP topic was pointing out Bates performance THIS year. Maybe you should rethink your reference, too. Before last season (my comment made before receiving a bid last year), when was the last time Memphis made the NCAA tourney? Further when was the last time Memphis received a high seed? You look foolish with this banter.

We had to win early OOC just to make the tourney last year, and we surely continued our long history of not making the tournament. You keep doing you. Ha ha ha!

Where have you been for the last 5 yrs? Even Penny has stated we need to win early & the AAC conference NCAA bid history speaks for itself (ours as well - you never did answer how many years prior to last season since our last bid). It's why Penny has upped the OOC schedule. Your arguments are lame & completely unrelated to whether Bates (& other guards that I mentioned) are having good years. But I suppose you have to find something to argue about.

This is YOU, January 16th of last year. NOT February 16th or a week before the bids came out. Half way through the season. On winning the AAC Tournament.

Quote:Capable, absolutely. Doesn't mean it's even likely but for sure it's the only chance left for them to make the tourney.

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RE: STR Emoni Bates
(01-26-2023 01:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 01:35 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 01:31 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Focus...I never said we wouldn't make the tournament. You are just making things up. I'm not asking anyone to believe me either I'm just giving you the facts but you prefer the Koolaid.

English must be a second language for you? ¿Hablas español? Simple Jack and you, peas in a pod. Now stop with your circular, dishonest drivel.

(11-28-2021 09:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  The way this conference is viewed, we have to win early OOC to ensure we even make the tourney.

Seems I have to repeat myself with you, argue with Penny about the need to win early. He agrees. And by the way AGAIN, when was the last time made the NCAA tourney prior to last season? When was the last time Memphis received a high seed to the tourney? While you are wringing your hands, I'll provide part of the answer - we aren't likely to receive a high seed unless we win the AAC & play a strong OOC schedule.

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¿Qué significa esto? "we have to win early OOC to ensure we even make the tourney"

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