(01-24-2023 09:32 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote: 43 Points
1 assist... in a loss
That was only 0.1 assists below his season average of 1.1 per game.
Emoni Bates and "team player" do not belong in the same sentence. That's part of the downside. Not necessarily his fault either. His heavy handed father played a huge role in his [lack of] development, much to his detriment.
All he does is hang out on the perimeter on offense. Plays matador defense. Basketball is a team game. He doesn’t play it as a team. But some fans just like shiny things, same as brainless people.
(01-24-2023 10:19 PM)Crazier Wrote: I wonder what NBA team is going to take a risk on him. He can score but he is not a winner. Eastern Michigan is 4-16.
Put him on a two-way and park him in the G League. I'm sure a team is willing to take that gamble for a 6-10" guard who can handle the ball and shoot from the arc. If he goes undrafted, test the waters with an Exhibit 10.
(01-24-2023 10:28 PM)Davidofmtp Wrote: All he does is hang out on the perimeter on offense. Plays matador defense. Basketball is a team game. He doesn’t play it as a team. But some fans just like shiny things, same as brainless people.
(01-24-2023 09:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night.
I still miss Baugh.. He was a good kid, Penny ruined him.. and then pushed him out..
Boogie??? That kid was home sick all his time at Memphis.. We don't need players who miss his mama, his dog, his homies, his hood, etc.
I watched Bates first game with E Michigan this year when they played at Michigan. Bates had around 30 and they had Michigan on the ropes. I thought they were going to pull the upset, and even after losing, I figured they would do really well in their league. Season has gone off the rails for them
(01-24-2023 09:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night.
I still miss Baugh.. He was a good kid, Penny ruined him.. and then pushed him out..
Boogie??? That kid was home sick all his time at Memphis.. We don't need players who miss his mama, his dog, his homies, his hood, etc.
Ruined him how? You can't equal how dumb your last rant was, but give it a shot.
(01-24-2023 09:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night.
I still miss Baugh.. He was a good kid, Penny ruined him.. and then pushed him out..
Boogie??? That kid was home sick all his time at Memphis.. We don't need players who miss his mama, his dog, his homies, his hood, etc.
Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are. I'm thinking Boogie & Baugh would have been a fine Memphis backcourt if they had been given the minutes they have received on their current teams - they've proven themselves with PT.
As far as tall 2-guards with long hair go, I think I'll take JLaw. I'm really looking forward to him over the next couple years. He's got some old-man shot craftiness he's shown over the last couple games, kinda like CDR or Manu Genolbili.
(01-25-2023 07:40 AM)micman Wrote: As far as tall 2-guards with long hair go, I think I'll take JLaw. I'm really looking forward to him over the next couple years. He's got some old-man shot craftiness he's shown over the last couple games, kinda like CDR or Manu Genolbili.
(01-24-2023 09:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night.
I still miss Baugh.. He was a good kid, Penny ruined him.. and then pushed him out..
Boogie??? That kid was home sick all his time at Memphis.. We don't need players who miss his mama, his dog, his homies, his hood, etc.
Ruined him how? You can't equal how dumb your last rant was, but give it a shot.
Must you be a dick with every response? Stop being a show off, we all know how good you are at it. It's boring as hell and makes me wonder about your intellect.
(01-25-2023 07:40 AM)micman Wrote: As far as tall 2-guards with long hair go, I think I'll take JLaw. I'm really looking forward to him over the next couple years. He's got some old-man shot craftiness he's shown over the last couple games, kinda like CDR or Manu Genolbili.
Maybe if he can learn to play D.
He seems to be improving game by game. At the very least, he seems engaged on the defensive end and hustles. I expect him to improve year by year.
If he could shoot like that here consistently I'd welcome him back. I think Penny unintentionally did Bates a disservice by pressing him into action too soon. He was, after all, a boy playing with men. I'm sure that as a top prospect playing time was guaranteed in order to get him to sign with us though.
(01-25-2023 07:57 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: If he could shoot like that here consistently I'd welcome him back. I think Penny unintentionally did Bates a disservice by pressing him into action too soon. He was, after all, a boy playing with men. I'm sure that as a top prospect playing time was guaranteed in order to get him to sign with us though.
I think you are right but it was probably part of the deal to get him to sign with Memphis - immediate PT with lots of PG exposure - which he showed immediately he couldn't handle & it caused considerable dissention besides.
(01-24-2023 09:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night.
I still miss Baugh.. He was a good kid, Penny ruined him.. and then pushed him out..
Boogie??? That kid was home sick all his time at Memphis.. We don't need players who miss his mama, his dog, his homies, his hood, etc.
Ruined him how? You can't equal how dumb your last rant was, but give it a shot.
Must you be a dick with every response? Stop being a show off, we all know how good you are at it. It's boring as hell and makes me wonder about your intellect.
(01-25-2023 07:57 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: If he could shoot like that here consistently I'd welcome him back. I think Penny unintentionally did Bates a disservice by pressing him into action too soon. He was, after all, a boy playing with men. I'm sure that as a top prospect playing time was guaranteed in order to get him to sign with us though.
As soon as Penny tried to bench him, he developed a mysterious back problem only a doctor in Michigan could resolve and left Memphis. I believe the disservice happened years ago via his father and the bespoke school that he created to isolate his son from real competition.
(01-24-2023 09:13 PM)memphis mania Wrote: No, Bates would not be averaging 23 for Memphis like he is right now, but let's not pretend this team couldn't use his scoring prowess. The problem last year wasn't Bates, it was the backlog at his position with the likes of Lester and Nolley that caused tension. This year it would have set up much better for him. Personally im fine with him not on the team, but again, its a mistake to pretend he wouldn't be a net positive for this team this year.
Nobody's pretending anything. He's a superstar for a team that's #341 in the NET. He's putting up those numbers because of two primary factors: the competition has been overwhelmingly poor (with few exceptions) and they constantly feed him the ball because they don't have better options. Surely you don't think he would be nearly as effective against consistently better competition do you, even if that team let him ball hog the way he does at Eastern Michigan?
This is how their season (and level of competition) has looked thus far:
Bates would have been more effective than Kennedy and Franklin are now for our team. Not sure how you could argue that. Like I said, he wouldn't average 20, but he would have provided a legitimate outside threat. Do I think he would be some all time game changer for us? No, but its silly to dismiss him like he would have been complete crap
And you know this how? Outside of being a better catch and shoot guy, which is debatable between he and Kennedy
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