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(01-22-2023 03:02 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 02:53 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 02:48 PM)lelandhardy Wrote:  The Sun Belt isn't losing anyone to the AAC. Georgia State reportedly already turned them down, and the Sun Belt is on the rise while the AAC is falling. Also, the Sun Belt doesn't want Chattanooga or North Florida. If Missouri State improves in football then they could be a western addition with ECU, but they don't move the needle otherwise. They also won't take Delaware, as it's out of the footprint and a diminished brand from their heyday. EKU is also off the table because they could just as easily get WKU, and they're worth a lot more.

Chattanooga have good football and is already a rival to Appalachian State and Georgia Southern. They do fit in. They could be very competitive if they do join SBC. It could also bring SBC's RPI up in men's basketball as well.

That's nice. Still pass.

Chatty had their chance, back in 2013. They won't be asked again, not by the Sun Belt.


From Local 3 Chattanooga, back in 2013:

Herron said the school was contacted two months ago by the league about the likelihood of joining App State and Georgia Southern on the FBS level. However, UTC isn't interested in pursuing it.

"I told (the Sun Belt) we're not considering that at this time, but hose are always options to look at in the future," said Herron, who noted UTC's newly-hired chancellor and soon-to-be hired athletic director may feel differently. "We're happy in the Southern Conference, and we look forward to dominating it in football and other sports."

Huesman echoes that sentiment.

You can count him in the group that's happy UTC isn't making the jump. In fact, he's still scratching his head about the decision from his two rivals.

"My personal opinion is no, it's not a good move, but I haven't been in all the backdoor meetings to learn about how it helps,"Huesman said. "They'll probably get a Tuesday night or Wednesday night ESPN game, and that's great exposure for their university."

"I have no idea why they want to do it, but it's their decision and they've been planning it for a long time. Congratulations to them, and I hate not to play them anymore."

https://www.local3news.com/utc-committed...a51b9.html


The Belt is in a much better place now, and has no need for Chatty.
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(01-22-2023 03:18 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 03:04 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  The thread's premise was already invalid when the first word in the title was factually mistaken.

Go back a little bit in the thread. There's an article I posted that lays out their plan to move up, with or without the ASUNWAC.

The article says the stated goal is 2024.
Goal implies it is an aim or a intention and not a certainty.
Also several of these schools will be offered a move to an established conference before this date comes. Will they stick to their agreement or jump ship. What would you do?
Would you hold steady with the goal or make the move to CUSA if offered if or when the mwc takes UTEP and or nmsu? What if the mwc loses 4 or more and several are offered spots will they remain or jump ship?
I believe history dictates the answer.
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(01-22-2023 04:21 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 03:02 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 02:53 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 02:48 PM)lelandhardy Wrote:  The Sun Belt isn't losing anyone to the AAC. Georgia State reportedly already turned them down, and the Sun Belt is on the rise while the AAC is falling. Also, the Sun Belt doesn't want Chattanooga or North Florida. If Missouri State improves in football then they could be a western addition with ECU, but they don't move the needle otherwise. They also won't take Delaware, as it's out of the footprint and a diminished brand from their heyday. EKU is also off the table because they could just as easily get WKU, and they're worth a lot more.

Chattanooga have good football and is already a rival to Appalachian State and Georgia Southern. They do fit in. They could be very competitive if they do join SBC. It could also bring SBC's RPI up in men's basketball as well.

That's nice. Still pass.

Chatty had their chance, back in 2013. They won't be asked again, not by the Sun Belt.


From Local 3 Chattanooga, back in 2013:

Herron said the school was contacted two months ago by the league about the likelihood of joining App State and Georgia Southern on the FBS level. However, UTC isn't interested in pursuing it.

"I told (the Sun Belt) we're not considering that at this time, but hose are always options to look at in the future," said Herron, who noted UTC's newly-hired chancellor and soon-to-be hired athletic director may feel differently. "We're happy in the Southern Conference, and we look forward to dominating it in football and other sports."

Huesman echoes that sentiment.

You can count him in the group that's happy UTC isn't making the jump. In fact, he's still scratching his head about the decision from his two rivals.

"My personal opinion is no, it's not a good move, but I haven't been in all the backdoor meetings to learn about how it helps,"Huesman said. "They'll probably get a Tuesday night or Wednesday night ESPN game, and that's great exposure for their university."

"I have no idea why they want to do it, but it's their decision and they've been planning it for a long time. Congratulations to them, and I hate not to play them anymore."

https://www.local3news.com/utc-committed...a51b9.html


The Belt is in a much better place now, and has no need for Chatty.

Chattanooga back then was not ready as they were hiring new peop;e at the time, and they can't make any decission to go up, plus they did not have the money either. Now, they are ready to move up, and they said so.They are not hiring anybody right now.
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(01-22-2023 05:06 PM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 03:18 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 03:04 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  The thread's premise was already invalid when the first word in the title was factually mistaken.

Go back a little bit in the thread. There's an article I posted that lays out their plan to move up, with or without the ASUNWAC.

The article says the stated goal is 2024.
Goal implies it is an aim or a intention and not a certainty.
Also several of these schools will be offered a move to an established conference before this date comes. Will they stick to their agreement or jump ship. What would you do?
Would you hold steady with the goal or make the move to CUSA if offered if or when the mwc takes UTEP and or nmsu? What if the mwc loses 4 or more and several are offered spots will they remain or jump ship?
I believe history dictates the answer.

The article says they "could" move up. There are a lot of "ifs" that have to be converted to reality before that can happen. "Plan" is too strong a word for this.
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(01-22-2023 05:11 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Chattanooga back then was not ready as they were hiring new peop;e at the time, and they can't make any decission to go up, plus they did not have the money either. Now, they are ready to move up, and they said so.They are not hiring anybody right now.

That's a shame. SBC is no longer interested. Maybe CUSA will take them if they lose someone in the next shuffle.

SBC feels more stable than any other conference outside the MAC, and can afford to be very picky with additions now.
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(01-22-2023 05:11 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 04:21 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 03:02 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 02:53 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 02:48 PM)lelandhardy Wrote:  The Sun Belt isn't losing anyone to the AAC. Georgia State reportedly already turned them down, and the Sun Belt is on the rise while the AAC is falling. Also, the Sun Belt doesn't want Chattanooga or North Florida. If Missouri State improves in football then they could be a western addition with ECU, but they don't move the needle otherwise. They also won't take Delaware, as it's out of the footprint and a diminished brand from their heyday. EKU is also off the table because they could just as easily get WKU, and they're worth a lot more.

Chattanooga have good football and is already a rival to Appalachian State and Georgia Southern. They do fit in. They could be very competitive if they do join SBC. It could also bring SBC's RPI up in men's basketball as well.

That's nice. Still pass.

Chatty had their chance, back in 2013. They won't be asked again, not by the Sun Belt.


From Local 3 Chattanooga, back in 2013:

Herron said the school was contacted two months ago by the league about the likelihood of joining App State and Georgia Southern on the FBS level. However, UTC isn't interested in pursuing it.

"I told (the Sun Belt) we're not considering that at this time, but hose are always options to look at in the future," said Herron, who noted UTC's newly-hired chancellor and soon-to-be hired athletic director may feel differently. "We're happy in the Southern Conference, and we look forward to dominating it in football and other sports."

Huesman echoes that sentiment.

You can count him in the group that's happy UTC isn't making the jump. In fact, he's still scratching his head about the decision from his two rivals.

"My personal opinion is no, it's not a good move, but I haven't been in all the backdoor meetings to learn about how it helps,"Huesman said. "They'll probably get a Tuesday night or Wednesday night ESPN game, and that's great exposure for their university."

"I have no idea why they want to do it, but it's their decision and they've been planning it for a long time. Congratulations to them, and I hate not to play them anymore."

https://www.local3news.com/utc-committed...a51b9.html


The Belt is in a much better place now, and has no need for Chatty.

Chattanooga back then was not ready as they were hiring new peop;e at the time, and they can't make any decission to go up, plus they did not have the money either. Now, they are ready to move up, and they said so.They are not hiring anybody right now.


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Unrealistic premise in OP. Trolling? Bored?
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(01-22-2023 02:23 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 02:21 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  No private school except Liberty has jumped "up" since the 1970's. No one seems to pick up on that oddity.

Austin Peay is a state public school.

Indeed, Austin Peay State University.
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(01-22-2023 05:37 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 05:11 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Chattanooga back then was not ready as they were hiring new peop;e at the time, and they can't make any decission to go up, plus they did not have the money either. Now, they are ready to move up, and they said so.They are not hiring anybody right now.

That's a shame. SBC is no longer interested. Maybe CUSA will take them if they lose someone in the next shuffle.

SBC feels more stable than any other conference outside the MAC, and can afford to be very picky with additions now.

I think UTC actually would have been a great fit for the SBC. And it would have further added to the tight regional fit of the SBC.
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(01-22-2023 02:11 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Will the Sunbelt take them and EKU as the 15th and 16th members? I doubt MTSU is going to allow another school close to Nashville be in the same conference as them, but I could be wrong. They may have a better relationship with each other than WKU has with EKU.

SunBelt would not have any interest, IMO. C-USA, on the other hand, I could see doing this.
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Id love to have them in CUSA, honestly I think the sbc would like them also.
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(01-22-2023 08:10 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Unrealistic premise in OP. Trolling? Bored?

Neither. The school that's mentioned in the title is looking at moving to FBS with or without the ASUNWAC. They had planned to move up in 2025, but will do so in 2024 with the rest of the ASUNWAC should it work out.
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(01-22-2023 10:46 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 05:37 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(01-22-2023 05:11 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Chattanooga back then was not ready as they were hiring new peop;e at the time, and they can't make any decission to go up, plus they did not have the money either. Now, they are ready to move up, and they said so.They are not hiring anybody right now.

That's a shame. SBC is no longer interested. Maybe CUSA will take them if they lose someone in the next shuffle.

SBC feels more stable than any other conference outside the MAC, and can afford to be very picky with additions now.

I think UTC actually would have been a great fit for the SBC. And it would have further added to the tight regional fit of the SBC.

I think Chattanooga and Missouri State will be the 15th and 16th members should Delaware pass over the Sunbelt for the MAC.
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This is just facepalm worthy. I’m all for realignment speculation, but the Sun Belt is NOT taking UTC, Delaware, or Austin Peay. Missouri State is only getting in if ECU wants to join and they don’t have a good western school to choose from that’s already G5. I know there is a faction that refuses to allow WKU back in.
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(01-23-2023 03:03 AM)lelandhardy Wrote:  This is just facepalm worthy. I’m all for realignment speculation, but the Sun Belt is NOT taking UTC, Delaware, or Austin Peay. Missouri State is only getting in if ECU wants to join and they don’t have a good western school to choose from that’s already G5. I know there is a faction that refuses to allow WKU back in.

That's what I think too!!!
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(01-23-2023 03:03 AM)lelandhardy Wrote:  This is just facepalm worthy. I’m all for realignment speculation, but the Sun Belt is NOT taking UTC, Delaware, or Austin Peay. Missouri State is only getting in if ECU wants to join and they don’t have a good western school to choose from that’s already G5. I know there is a faction that refuses to allow WKU back in.


ECU will never leave the AAC for less pay in SBC.
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(01-22-2023 02:19 PM)lelandhardy Wrote:  
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(01-22-2023 02:14 PM)lelandhardy Wrote:  No. Never going to happen unless the dumb WACSUN plan happens. The Sun Belt would never ever take them.

They're planning to move up in 2024. The athletic director announced their intentions to do so a month ago.

That's only if the WACSUN works. Neither CUSA or the Sun Belt will take them. The Sun Belt is accepting no one else short of ECU wanting to join in the East and picking a partner to balance out the West, which would likely be WKU, UTSA, Memphis, or SMU in that situation.

I think the Sunbelt will take Missouri State and Delaware at some point. ECU,Memphis,UAB will never join the Belt
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The Sun Belt will not take UTC at this point. UTC does not have baseball and the SBC is going to be a multi-bid league in the sport.

That ship has sailed.
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(01-23-2023 10:36 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  The Sun Belt will not take UTC at this point. UTC does not have baseball and the SBC is going to be a multi-bid league in the sport.

That ship has sailed.


Also, when UTC was contacted by the SBC they were drawing 14-16k in football. Now they drag in 6-8k
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(01-22-2023 10:13 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Indeed, Austin Peay State University.

Yes, we knew that. The bar for state schools is considerably lower to jump.
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