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(01-24-2023 02:22 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
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(01-24-2023 11:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Link?


Well I guess that's better than a stick in the eye, as my grandmother used to say.
But geez. Sounds like he took the trouble to review it at halftime. Why not do it in game, instead of tagging a tech on someone when you obviously did not see the entire picture.

Don't quote me but I'm 99% sure, if they would have reviewed it when it happened, they could have changed it to a foul on Cincy.

judgment calls are not reviewable.

Hey ncrdbl1--at least he is consistent isn't he -- O-FER 03-lmfao---you just can't make this stuff up-----maybe just by accident --just once ever LOL
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(01-24-2023 02:19 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-23-2023 02:15 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is a flagrant foul in the NBA, putting your feet in the landing zone of a shooter because the NBA has had so many injuries stemming from players doing that. Insane that Davis was called for a technical foul on that play, even more insane it was not reviewed as he went (more or less) crawling off the floor in pain.

The largest issue I have is the complete inconsistency. The tech on Deandre for "taunting" the Cincy bench when in reality players do similar minor gestures 20+ times a game and yet they randomly call it once to "set the tone". It is BS.

Anyways, this was another really nice for the guys. They seem to be finding a nice groove!

flopping is a class B technical and a judgment call. Not reviewable.

Only flagrant or Hook and Hold fouls are reviewable.

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(01-24-2023 03:21 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 02:22 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 12:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 11:50 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
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Well I guess that's better than a stick in the eye, as my grandmother used to say.
But geez. Sounds like he took the trouble to review it at halftime. Why not do it in game, instead of tagging a tech on someone when you obviously did not see the entire picture.

Don't quote me but I'm 99% sure, if they would have reviewed it when it happened, they could have changed it to a foul on Cincy.

judgment calls are not reviewable.

Hey ncrdbl1--at least he is consistent isn't he -- O-FER 03-lmfao---you just can't make this stuff up-----maybe just by accident --just once ever LOL

I'm right most of the time. You think Davis is our worst player. Btw, OBVIOUSLY, if you aren't sure if a player gets an elbow in the face or doesn't get hit and flops, you can review it.





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(01-24-2023 03:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 02:19 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-23-2023 02:15 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is a flagrant foul in the NBA, putting your feet in the landing zone of a shooter because the NBA has had so many injuries stemming from players doing that. Insane that Davis was called for a technical foul on that play, even more insane it was not reviewed as he went (more or less) crawling off the floor in pain.

The largest issue I have is the complete inconsistency. The tech on Deandre for "taunting" the Cincy bench when in reality players do similar minor gestures 20+ times a game and yet they randomly call it once to "set the tone". It is BS.

Anyways, this was another really nice for the guys. They seem to be finding a nice groove!

flopping is a class B technical and a judgment call. Not reviewable.

Only flagrant or Hook and Hold fouls are reviewable.

Link?

Can you review a foul in college basketball?

As mentioned previously in the article, you cannot review whether or not a common foul occurred in men’s college basketball. This means if your team got whistled for a bogus call, unfortunately the mistake will stand. Common fouls are not reviewable.

Just like the NBA, college basketball referees can review certain specifics surrounding a common foul (but again, they CANNOT review whether or not the foul itself occurred). These specifics that can be reviewed are:

if a foul occurred before or after the game time ran out
if a foul occurred before or after the shot clock ran out
which player committed the foul
which player should be shooting free throws
if a player was shooting a 2 or 3 point try when getting fouled

Similar to the NBA, in college basketball there are a few other specific types of fouls where you can use the review process (source):

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a foul should be called a flagrant foul or common foul

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a flagrant foul was faked (flop rule)

Review process can be used to determine if a foul occurred in the restricted circle or not. This can only be reviewed in last 2 minutes of 4th quarter and overtime
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(01-24-2023 04:05 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Can you review a foul in college basketball?

As mentioned previously in the article, you cannot review whether or not a common foul occurred in men’s college basketball. This means if your team got whistled for a bogus call, unfortunately the mistake will stand. Common fouls are not reviewable.

Just like the NBA, college basketball referees can review certain specifics surrounding a common foul (but again, they CANNOT review whether or not the foul itself occurred). These specifics that can be reviewed are:

if a foul occurred before or after the game time ran out
if a foul occurred before or after the shot clock ran out
which player committed the foul
which player should be shooting free throws
if a player was shooting a 2 or 3 point try when getting fouled

Similar to the NBA, in college basketball there are a few other specific types of fouls where you can use the review process (source):

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a foul should be called a flagrant foul or common foul

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a flagrant foul was faked (flop rule)

Review process can be used to determine if a foul occurred in the restricted circle or not. This can only be reviewed in last 2 minutes of 4th quarter and overtime

The way that it's worded seems to indicate that a review process can be initiated to determine if the foul occurred or was faked due to a flop. In the incident in question, there was no flagrant foul called against the defender. The rule you referenced is irrelevant in this context. It's a dissimilar set of circumstances, so you can't say that the aforementioned could be applied to review a class b technical assessed against a flop, to verify that it was a flop.

Do you have a link for your source? Do you know where this regulation is outlined in the NCAA rule book? I have no dog in this fight, but I wouldn't mind knowing definitively, what the regulation is. At the very least, it should satisfy everyone's curiosity.
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Didn't that happen at our last home game? They initially called a common foul on Deandre Williams, then went to the monitors to determine if it was flagrant or not. In the process they saw that it was actually the other team that fouled Deandre, so they reversed the common foul call. I wasn't watching on TV, so I'm assuming that is what was happening.
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(01-24-2023 04:24 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 04:05 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Can you review a foul in college basketball?

As mentioned previously in the article, you cannot review whether or not a common foul occurred in men’s college basketball. This means if your team got whistled for a bogus call, unfortunately the mistake will stand. Common fouls are not reviewable.

Just like the NBA, college basketball referees can review certain specifics surrounding a common foul (but again, they CANNOT review whether or not the foul itself occurred). These specifics that can be reviewed are:

if a foul occurred before or after the game time ran out
if a foul occurred before or after the shot clock ran out
which player committed the foul
which player should be shooting free throws
if a player was shooting a 2 or 3 point try when getting fouled

Similar to the NBA, in college basketball there are a few other specific types of fouls where you can use the review process (source):

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a foul should be called a flagrant foul or common foul

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a flagrant foul was faked (flop rule)

Review process can be used to determine if a foul occurred in the restricted circle or not. This can only be reviewed in last 2 minutes of 4th quarter and overtime

The way that it's worded seems to indicate that a review process can be initiated to determine if the foul occurred or was faked due to a flop. In the incident in question, there was no flagrant foul called against the defender. The rule you referenced is irrelevant in this context. It's a dissimilar set of circumstances, so you can't say that the aforementioned could be applied to review a class b technical assessed against a flop, to verify that it was a flop.

Do you have a link for your source? Do you know where this regulation is outlined in the NCAA rule book? I have no dog in this fight, but I wouldn't mind knowing definitively, what the regulation is. At the very least, it should satisfy everyone's curiosity.

If the ref wasn't sure, it could have been reviewed.
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(01-24-2023 04:24 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 04:05 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Can you review a foul in college basketball?

As mentioned previously in the article, you cannot review whether or not a common foul occurred in men’s college basketball. This means if your team got whistled for a bogus call, unfortunately the mistake will stand. Common fouls are not reviewable.

Just like the NBA, college basketball referees can review certain specifics surrounding a common foul (but again, they CANNOT review whether or not the foul itself occurred). These specifics that can be reviewed are:

if a foul occurred before or after the game time ran out
if a foul occurred before or after the shot clock ran out
which player committed the foul
which player should be shooting free throws
if a player was shooting a 2 or 3 point try when getting fouled

Similar to the NBA, in college basketball there are a few other specific types of fouls where you can use the review process (source):

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a foul should be called a flagrant foul or common foul

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a flagrant foul was faked (flop rule)

Review process can be used to determine if a foul occurred in the restricted circle or not. This can only be reviewed in last 2 minutes of 4th quarter and overtime

The way that it's worded seems to indicate that a review process can be initiated to determine if the foul occurred or was faked due to a flop. In the incident in question, there was no flagrant foul called against the defender. The rule you referenced is irrelevant in this context. It's a dissimilar set of circumstances, so you can't say that the aforementioned could be applied to review a class b technical assessed against a flop, to verify that it was a flop.

Do you have a link for your source? Do you know where this regulation is outlined in the NCAA rule book? I have no dog in this fight, but I wouldn't mind knowing definitively, what the regulation is. At the very least, it should satisfy everyone's curiosity.

The keyword in the sentence is a FLAGRANT foul. Flop is not a flagrant foul.
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(01-24-2023 04:29 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 04:24 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 04:05 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Can you review a foul in college basketball?

As mentioned previously in the article, you cannot review whether or not a common foul occurred in men’s college basketball. This means if your team got whistled for a bogus call, unfortunately the mistake will stand. Common fouls are not reviewable.

Just like the NBA, college basketball referees can review certain specifics surrounding a common foul (but again, they CANNOT review whether or not the foul itself occurred). These specifics that can be reviewed are:

if a foul occurred before or after the game time ran out
if a foul occurred before or after the shot clock ran out
which player committed the foul
which player should be shooting free throws
if a player was shooting a 2 or 3 point try when getting fouled

Similar to the NBA, in college basketball there are a few other specific types of fouls where you can use the review process (source):

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a foul should be called a flagrant foul or common foul

Review process can be used to determine whether or not a flagrant foul was faked (flop rule)

Review process can be used to determine if a foul occurred in the restricted circle or not. This can only be reviewed in last 2 minutes of 4th quarter and overtime

The way that it's worded seems to indicate that a review process can be initiated to determine if the foul occurred or was faked due to a flop. In the incident in question, there was no flagrant foul called against the defender. The rule you referenced is irrelevant in this context. It's a dissimilar set of circumstances, so you can't say that the aforementioned could be applied to review a class b technical assessed against a flop, to verify that it was a flop.

Do you have a link for your source? Do you know where this regulation is outlined in the NCAA rule book? I have no dog in this fight, but I wouldn't mind knowing definitively, what the regulation is. At the very least, it should satisfy everyone's curiosity.

The keyword in the sentence is a FLAGRANT foul. Flop is not a flagrant foul.

WTF are you talking about (as usual)? The ref could have reviewed it before making the call to determine what it was.
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(01-24-2023 04:29 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If the ref wasn't sure, it could have been reviewed.

I'll take your word for it as I don't have the NCAA rule book memorized, but if you watch the video of the game, the look on the ref's face was as insolent and self-assured as one can be. There was no way he was going to back down. Anyone with eyes could immediately see that it wasn't a flop, and the official in question should be reprimanded at a minimum, especially when it resulted in injury to a player.

Final Four crew indeed.
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(01-24-2023 04:29 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  Didn't that happen at our last home game? They initially called a common foul on Deandre Williams, then went to the monitors to determine if it was flagrant or not. In the process they saw that it was actually the other team that fouled Deandre, so they reversed the common foul call. I wasn't watching on TV, so I'm assuming that is what was happening.

Exactly what happened.
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(01-24-2023 05:05 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 04:29 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  Didn't that happen at our last home game? They initially called a common foul on Deandre Williams, then went to the monitors to determine if it was flagrant or not. In the process they saw that it was actually the other team that fouled Deandre, so they reversed the common foul call. I wasn't watching on TV, so I'm assuming that is what was happening.

Exactly what happened.

That was the call when I was screaming so loudly the security guy gave me a look and a salute.
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(01-24-2023 04:29 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  Didn't that happen at our last home game? They initially called a common foul on Deandre Williams, then went to the monitors to determine if it was flagrant or not. In the process they saw that it was actually the other team that fouled Deandre, so they reversed the common foul call. I wasn't watching on TV, so I'm assuming that is what was happening.

I believe that was a hook and hold situation.
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(01-24-2023 02:19 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-23-2023 02:15 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is a flagrant foul in the NBA, putting your feet in the landing zone of a shooter because the NBA has had so many injuries stemming from players doing that. Insane that Davis was called for a technical foul on that play, even more insane it was not reviewed as he went (more or less) crawling off the floor in pain.

The largest issue I have is the complete inconsistency. The tech on Deandre for "taunting" the Cincy bench when in reality players do similar minor gestures 20+ times a game and yet they randomly call it once to "set the tone". It is BS.

Anyways, this was another really nice for the guys. They seem to be finding a nice groove!

flopping is a class B technical and a judgment call. Not reviewable.

Only flagrant or Hook and Hold fouls are reviewable.

We can split hairs in a 100 different ways...

Then the technical foul should not have been called. A common foul should have been called to stop play and then reviewed for a technical foul..

Again, the main point is that in the NBA coming underneath a player's landing zone is an automatic flagrant foul. The defender clearly stepped into Davis' landing zone and resulted in Davis rolling his ankle. Exactly what the NBA was cutting out. It is pretty much a common sense rule at this point.
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I feel dirty for having watched that. I need a shower.
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I feel dirty for having watched that. I need a shower.

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(01-21-2023 04:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-21-2023 02:08 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Dandridge...maybe SMU, Tulsa, or Tulane games. Had heard he would be out around 5-6 weeks? He was injured against Alabama..and that was about 5 1/2 weeks ago.
The other two...I have no idea.
Lomax and that groin..those things are typically not rapid healing areas.
I pulled a groin and was out of work for two and a half weeks.
With him being an athlete...could be that or maybe longer, depending on the severity of the injury.

Remember doing the splits in a pick up football game with two guys on my back two weeks before track practice started.

Never made it on track that season and had worst season in my life putting the shot.

Both of the injuries we're talking about are hard to recover from because it difficult to not use the injured area. Even with crutches and a walking boot.
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(01-24-2023 03:21 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
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Well I guess that's better than a stick in the eye, as my grandmother used to say.
But geez. Sounds like he took the trouble to review it at halftime. Why not do it in game, instead of tagging a tech on someone when you obviously did not see the entire picture.

Don't quote me but I'm 99% sure, if they would have reviewed it when it happened, they could have changed it to a foul on Cincy.

judgment calls are not reviewable.

Hey ncrdbl1--at least he is consistent isn't he -- O-FER 03-lmfao---you just can't make this stuff up-----maybe just by accident --just once ever LOL

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