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That is a flagrant foul in the NBA, putting your feet in the landing zone of a shooter because the NBA has had so many injuries stemming from players doing that. Insane that Davis was called for a technical foul on that play, even more insane it was not reviewed as he went (more or less) crawling off the floor in pain.

The largest issue I have is the complete inconsistency. The tech on Deandre for "taunting" the Cincy bench when in reality players do similar minor gestures 20+ times a game and yet they randomly call it once to "set the tone". It is BS.

Anyways, this was another really nice for the guys. They seem to be finding a nice groove!
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(01-23-2023 02:15 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is a flagrant foul in the NBA, putting your feet in the landing zone of a shooter because the NBA has had so many injuries stemming from players doing that. Insane that Davis was called for a technical foul on that play, even more insane it was not reviewed as he went (more or less) crawling off the floor in pain.

The largest issue I have is the complete inconsistency. The tech on Deandre for "taunting" the Cincy bench when in reality players do similar minor gestures 20+ times a game and yet they randomly call it once to "set the tone". It is BS.

Anyways, this was another really nice for the guys. They seem to be finding a nice groove!

Nolley deserved a second technical for taunting, and they called a stupid foul on DW halfway through the second half that should have been Nolley's 4th. Dejulius threw his entire body into our defender JL or Damaria, can't remember, which was 10X worse than the botched call on KD.

Having said that, if you can go into someone's building and have an even number of fouls called (not counting when they were fouling on purpose), that is probably as good as you are going to get. The refs are generally cowards don't like getting yelled at by players, coaches and the fans and almost always tilt the game in favour of the home team.

It blows me away when we get screwed by the refs in our own building. It seems like we never enjoy that unfair advantage when we are on the road.
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(01-23-2023 02:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-23-2023 02:15 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is a flagrant foul in the NBA, putting your feet in the landing zone of a shooter because the NBA has had so many injuries stemming from players doing that. Insane that Davis was called for a technical foul on that play, even more insane it was not reviewed as he went (more or less) crawling off the floor in pain.

The largest issue I have is the complete inconsistency. The tech on Deandre for "taunting" the Cincy bench when in reality players do similar minor gestures 20+ times a game and yet they randomly call it once to "set the tone". It is BS.

Anyways, this was another really nice for the guys. They seem to be finding a nice groove!

Nolley deserved a second technical for taunting, and they called a stupid foul on DW halfway through the second half that should have been Nolley's 4th. Dejulius threw his entire body into our defender JL or Damaria, can't remember, which was 10X worse than the botched call on KD.

Having said that, if you can go into someone's building and have an even number of fouls called (not counting when they were fouling on purpose), that is probably as good as you are going to get. The refs are generally cowards don't like getting yelled at by players, coaches and the fans and almost always tilt the game in favour of the home team.

It blows me away when we get screwed by the refs in our own building. It seems like we never enjoy that unfair advantage when we are on the road.

Nolley started the game off taunting Kao by blowing him a kiss after his opening three. It was without question a biased effort from the officials.
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All examples of why Nolley isn’t here anymore.
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(01-23-2023 01:57 PM)Fluke Wrote:  
(01-23-2023 10:52 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Just now seeing the play where KD landed on the UC player’s foot and got called for a flop. For all of the things they review, they should have reviewed that and saved themselves embarrassment. The call actually should have been against Cincinnati as it was a dangerous play where he didn’t give Davis room to land.

“Final 4” crew needed to get their ish together.

It’s funny because almost every game I remember where they talked about it’s a “final 4 crew” had some of the worst officiating on both sides.

Maybe that's some type of "announcer code" for crappy ref crew. I think I will be leery of any crew labeled as a "Final 4 crew" for future games....
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All you guys biching about refs IN A WIN???? Just look pathetic...

Okay, I just wanted to see what that felt like from the other side.
Again, this is why football is the superior sport. Yes, there is some bad refing. But NOTHING like basketball.... every freaking game.
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(01-23-2023 02:46 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-23-2023 02:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-23-2023 02:15 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is a flagrant foul in the NBA, putting your feet in the landing zone of a shooter because the NBA has had so many injuries stemming from players doing that. Insane that Davis was called for a technical foul on that play, even more insane it was not reviewed as he went (more or less) crawling off the floor in pain.

The largest issue I have is the complete inconsistency. The tech on Deandre for "taunting" the Cincy bench when in reality players do similar minor gestures 20+ times a game and yet they randomly call it once to "set the tone". It is BS.

Anyways, this was another really nice for the guys. They seem to be finding a nice groove!

Nolley deserved a second technical for taunting, and they called a stupid foul on DW halfway through the second half that should have been Nolley's 4th. Dejulius threw his entire body into our defender JL or Damaria, can't remember, which was 10X worse than the botched call on KD.

Having said that, if you can go into someone's building and have an even number of fouls called (not counting when they were fouling on purpose), that is probably as good as you are going to get. The refs are generally cowards don't like getting yelled at by players, coaches and the fans and almost always tilt the game in favour of the home team.

It blows me away when we get screwed by the refs in our own building. It seems like we never enjoy that unfair advantage when we are on the road.

Nolley started the game off taunting Kao by blowing him a kiss after his opening three. It was without question a biased effort from the officials.

Confucius say: He who blows kiss after a 3pointer early in the game will often be found in the locker room not shaking hands after getting his ass beat.
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A poster way way above listed ALO as tied with Davis and Williams as the best defenders on the team----------the same poster in another thread chastised another poster for --as he put it--ignoring the facts/stats

FACTS/STATS

Defensive +/-PLUS/MINUS ----ALO leading entire team 5.2-----Williams 2.7----Davis 1.6 tied for 6th from the bottom

ALO ( is ) the best defender on the team according to the facts/stats
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(01-23-2023 09:25 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  A poster way way above listed ALO as tied with Davis and Williams as the best defenders on the team----------the same poster in another thread chastised another poster for --as he put it--ignoring the facts/stats

FACTS/STATS

Defensive +/-PLUS/MINUS ----ALO leading entire team 5.2-----Williams 2.7----Davis 1.6 tied for 6th from the bottom

ALO ( is ) the best defender on the team according to the facts/stats

That's because I was using D-PRPG! as the metric and not DBPM, Simple Jack. I know which metric I feel is a more reliable indicator of defensive prowess, but you do you.

Quote:D-PRPG!: measures how many points a player prevents compared to an average replacement player

Quote:DBPM: the difference in points allowed with a player on the court versus off the court per 100 possessions
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(01-23-2023 09:25 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  A poster way way above listed ALO as tied with Davis and Williams as the best defenders on the team----------the same poster in another thread chastised another poster for --as he put it--ignoring the facts/stats

FACTS/STATS

Defensive +/-PLUS/MINUS ----ALO leading entire team 5.2-----Williams 2.7----Davis 1.6 tied for 6th from the bottom

ALO ( is ) the best defender on the team according to the facts/stats

According to you, KD is the worst player on the team.

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(01-23-2023 05:10 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  All you guys biching about refs IN A WIN???? Just look pathetic...

Okay, I just wanted to see what that felt like from the other side.
Again, this is why football is the superior sport. Yes, there is some bad refing. But NOTHING like basketball.... every freaking game.

Any call that goes against the Tigers is a bad or even a crooked call.

Or the officials are racist.

If you check back earlier in this thread you'll actually see someone calling them racist because they made a call against the Tigers.

If the officials were really out to get the Tigers as some claim then Davis would spend most of his time on the bench.

He constantly uses his off-arm to create space.

The official admitted later that he missed the call.

The official was likely influenced by the earlier Davis flop on the offensive foul called on Nolley that wasn't called.

Do people realize how lucky we were that Williams remained in the game?

He went into full drama queen mode every time a call didn't go as he wanted.

The officials showed great restraint in not giving him a second T.

Higgins, Valentine, or Hightower would have sent him to an early shower.
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Who was that jackleg from Charlotte who always blew kisses and gave the finger to the Memphis crowd after hitting a 3 pointer?

He did that every single time we played them and I was ready to run out on the court and beat that ass
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(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Any call that goes against the Tigers is a bad or even a crooked call.

So calling a flop on Davis was the correct call when the defender didn't give him space to land and he rolled his ankle on the defender's foot? How about calling a foul on our player when Cincinnati's player was on top of his back? What about calling technicals on our players when they allow Cincinnati to taunt our players repeatedly? Apparently you didn't watch the same game as everyone else.

(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Or the officials are racist.

If you check back earlier in this thread you'll actually see someone calling them racist because they made a call against the Tigers.

If you check back, a bunch of board members called him out on that. He came back and both apologized and retracted what he said. Of course your half-truth is your preferred approach because the objective truth wouldn't fit your narrative.

(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  If the officials were really out to get the Tigers as some claim then Davis would spend most of his time on the bench.

What about the flop they called on him when there was no flop and he was injured? There's video of it if you go back.

(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  He constantly uses his off-arm to create space.

And the Cincinnati guards didn't?

(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Do people realize how lucky we were that Williams remained in the game?

He went into full drama queen mode every time a call didn't go as he wanted.

The officials showed great restraint in not giving him a second T.

If I'm not mistaken, a player is allowed to have and express an opinion. Do you know what he said and how he said it? I didn't think so.

No surprise that you will always go out of your way to point your finger at the team, ignoring valid points that our fans make, grasping for anything to talk down on the team. Why do you even follow the Tigers if all you can do most of the time is focus on the negative and look for anything to call the team out on? You say that you're a fan of the truth. Based on the body of your posts, the only truth you seem to care about is calling out the team, ignoring the big picture, and positing half-truths to support your negativity towards the Tigers.
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(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The official admitted later that he missed the call.

Link?
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(01-24-2023 11:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The official admitted later that he missed the call.

Link?

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(01-24-2023 11:29 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 11:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The official admitted later that he missed the call.

Link?


Well I guess that's better than a stick in the eye, as my grandmother used to say.
But geez. Sounds like he took the trouble to review it at halftime. Why not do it in game, instead of tagging a tech on someone when you obviously did not see the entire picture.
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(01-24-2023 11:50 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
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(01-24-2023 11:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The official admitted later that he missed the call.

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Well I guess that's better than a stick in the eye, as my grandmother used to say.
But geez. Sounds like he took the trouble to review it at halftime. Why not do it in game, instead of tagging a tech on someone when you obviously did not see the entire picture.

Don't quote me but I'm 99% sure, if they would have reviewed it when it happened, they could have changed it to a foul on Cincy.
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(01-23-2023 02:15 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is a flagrant foul in the NBA, putting your feet in the landing zone of a shooter because the NBA has had so many injuries stemming from players doing that. Insane that Davis was called for a technical foul on that play, even more insane it was not reviewed as he went (more or less) crawling off the floor in pain.

The largest issue I have is the complete inconsistency. The tech on Deandre for "taunting" the Cincy bench when in reality players do similar minor gestures 20+ times a game and yet they randomly call it once to "set the tone". It is BS.

Anyways, this was another really nice for the guys. They seem to be finding a nice groove!

flopping is a class B technical and a judgment call. Not reviewable.

Only flagrant or Hook and Hold fouls are reviewable.
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(01-24-2023 12:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 11:50 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 11:29 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 11:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 01:44 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The official admitted later that he missed the call.

Link?


Well I guess that's better than a stick in the eye, as my grandmother used to say.
But geez. Sounds like he took the trouble to review it at halftime. Why not do it in game, instead of tagging a tech on someone when you obviously did not see the entire picture.

Don't quote me but I'm 99% sure, if they would have reviewed it when it happened, they could have changed it to a foul on Cincy.

judgment calls are not reviewable.
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(01-24-2023 02:22 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  judgment calls are not reviewable.

Surely you could barely contain your overwhelming joy.
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