RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
Came from a belief that Blacks & other minorities weren't fully human b/c of a perceived primitive culture. Once it was determined skin color is just a variety in humans as a whole & has no bearing on intelligence, racism had nothing to stand on & fell apart.
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
(01-19-2023 11:37 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:
(01-19-2023 10:01 AM)mlb Wrote: How we ever allowed separate schools, drinking fountains, restrooms, etc., and no ability to vote because of skin color or gender is beyond me.
And now you have libs wanting “white free safe spaces” and black only dorms on college campuses
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
A key memory I have in 1st grade is learning about him & what he did. They then teach it every year for about a month, either slavery, the Civil War, MLK, segregation, etc. Plus In English lessons, you read from black authors, usually at least a couple every grade. The idea racism isn’t taught in public schools is nonsense & don’t let anyone ever tell you schools just want to gloss over it. This was at least 20 years ago in a community 99% white.
(This post was last modified: 01-19-2023 12:15 PM by Bronco'14.)
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
(01-19-2023 10:59 AM)fsquid Wrote: I'm always skeptical of "reverends" that become famous.
yeah ... we had one of those in the 'burg awhile back ... was a crook + X
our former mayor never recovered ... too fonzies that silly goose has tried to run for everything you can imagine in the state after this .... yeah, I'm still lmmfao...
Quote:Rev. Kenneth Fairley leaves the United States District Court William M. Colmer Federal Building after being found guilty following a six-day trial in Hattiesburg Miss., Sept. 12, 2016. Fairley was found guilty of two counts of theft of government funds and conspiracy to defraud the government.
Quote:HATTIESBURG, Mississippi -- A Hattiesburg pastor was convicted Monday on three counts of conspiracy and theft in a federal case involving money skimmed from a federal housing program.
Jurors returned guilty verdicts against the Rev. Kenneth Fairley after six hours of deliberation and a trial that stretched over parts of seven days.
Fairley is a longtime political ally of Hattiesburg Mayor Johnny DuPree, who attended parts of the trial and testified Saturday as a character witness. Fairley is also known nationally for once serving as the agent for University of Oklahoma running back Marcus Dupree, who's from Mississippi. Dupree later sued Fairley. The mayor and the running back aren't related.
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
(01-19-2023 12:21 PM)stinkfist Wrote:
(01-19-2023 10:59 AM)fsquid Wrote: I'm always skeptical of "reverends" that become famous.
yeah ... we had one of those in the 'burg awhile back ... was a crook + X
our former mayor never recovered ... too fonzies that silly goose has tried to run for everything you can imagine in the state after this .... yeah, I'm still lmmfao...
Quote:Rev. Kenneth Fairley leaves the United States District Court William M. Colmer Federal Building after being found guilty following a six-day trial in Hattiesburg Miss., Sept. 12, 2016. Fairley was found guilty of two counts of theft of government funds and conspiracy to defraud the government.
Quote:HATTIESBURG, Mississippi -- A Hattiesburg pastor was convicted Monday on three counts of conspiracy and theft in a federal case involving money skimmed from a federal housing program.
Jurors returned guilty verdicts against the Rev. Kenneth Fairley after six hours of deliberation and a trial that stretched over parts of seven days.
Fairley is a longtime political ally of Hattiesburg Mayor Johnny DuPree, who attended parts of the trial and testified Saturday as a character witness. Fairley is also known nationally for once serving as the agent for University of Oklahoma running back Marcus Dupree, who's from Mississippi. Dupree later sued Fairley. The mayor and the running back aren't related.
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
(01-19-2023 12:09 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: Came from a belief that Blacks & other minorities weren't fully human b/c of a perceived primitive culture. Once it was determined skin color is just a variety in humans as a whole & has no bearing on intelligence, racism had nothing to stand on & fell apart.
That's part of it, but we tend to forget. Black slaves spent generations receiving no education. They couldn't read or write. They had little or no experience with money or the western capitalist economy. They were intentionally made and kept unable to function in the free society and economy. Even worse, many who exhibited the intelligence and drive to overcome that were simply killed.
They were kept ignorant by design. It has zero to do with their potential, but it has everything to do with their re-incorporation into general society. It is still at the root of the problems we have now. They were never taught how to be part of the general American society because they never were part of the general American society. Now that the opportunity is there, some just don't want it. Can you blame them for saying F you?
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
(01-19-2023 08:10 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: He was also a communist and philanderer
And one FBI transcript of a recording (the tape of which won't be released for decades)
Said he was sitting there watching while one of his colleagues raped a woman.
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
(01-19-2023 10:01 AM)mlb Wrote:
(01-19-2023 09:50 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(01-19-2023 09:33 AM)EverRespect Wrote: Meh, pretty much every historical figure we put on a pedestal isn't exactly what who history says they are and they all had their shortcomings. The idea of MLK and the ideology that did make it to the history books is noble. Let them have it.
My thoughts also.
While that may be true, he is most celebrated for his work to bring equality among different races. For that I give him all the kudos in the world. How we ever allowed separate schools, drinking fountains, restrooms, etc., and no ability to vote because of skin color or gender is beyond me.
That's how far we have come. Many of the Greatest Generation couldn't imagine it any other way.
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
(01-19-2023 10:59 AM)fsquid Wrote: I'm always skeptical of "reverends" that become famous.
Yep….
Not uncommon for the old drunks in the neighborhood where I grew up in to start using reverend when they want people to believe they’ve changed their ways.
I’ve seen this predominantly with old black men but I’m sure old white men do it to
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
Local college (Aquinas) celebrated MLK Day by having educational event on voter suppression in communities of color.
"We pulled examples frrom the 2020 election & how Georgians faced long lines due to lack of voting locations in Black metro neighborhoods,"said the student engagement coordinatior for the Diversity, Inclusions, & Equity Center.
School freshman said,"I easily participated in the last election but knowing there's people my age who don't get to vote b/c they don't have the same opporunity & ease to vote is very disheartening."
2020 SET RECORDS for participation.
(This post was last modified: 01-19-2023 05:37 PM by Bronco'14.)
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
(01-19-2023 07:59 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: This was a stunner for me, but its turns our MLK did not believe in the deity of Jesus, the virgin birth or and most importantly of all the Resurrection itself.
In other words he was an apostate "preacher" who totally rejected the gospel of Christ. He literally was not even a believer. He had a totally quack liberal theology that rejected the most central aspects of the Gospel and the Bible completely.
I've always wondered how MLK was supposedly this genuine Christian yet so many of his inner circle turned out to be charlatans. Now I understand why.
So MLK was pretending to be a minister so he could manipulate and motivate the masses. That explains why he could cheat on his wife over and over. I like him a lot less after reading this. If you are cheating on your wife it means you are a liar. If you can lie to your wife you can lie to anyone.
MLK basically thought Jesus was a good guy that could be used to manipulate the masses. That’s super disappointing.
RE: Turns our MLK was not much of a minister at all
IT seems like a lot of people we put halos around aren't really that great people...John Lennon beat Yoko Ono, Ghandi had a thing for really young girls and said bad things about black people, Mother Teresa was kinda of a jerk.