https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...h-madness/

Most of the predictions in this CBS sports article are useless, but it does talk about St Peters run last year.

The thing that stood out is that at this point last season, St Peters was below .500 and 228 NET ranking. If that doesn’t give hope to a lot of teams, I don’t know what would. Even at this point in the season, virtually nothing is impossible.

"Gonzaga doesn't count.....but this consistently competitive team from their conference who gives them their only real competition from January-March does!"

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(01-18-2023 09:06 AM)Buckeye22 Wrote:  "Gonzaga doesn't count.....but this consistently competitive team from their conference who gives them their only real competition from January-March does!"

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...I think they are trying to say that Gonzaga, although a 'mid-major', is now in actuality a 'major', or whatever the next level up form 'mid-major' is... but yeah, the fact that they are in the same conference makes it tough to say one is 'major' and one is 'mid-major'...

(01-18-2023 10:50 AM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 09:06 AM)Buckeye22 Wrote:  "Gonzaga doesn't count.....but this consistently competitive team from their conference who gives them their only real competition from January-March does!"

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...I think they are trying to say that Gonzaga, although a 'mid-major', is now in actuality a 'major', or whatever the next level up form 'mid-major' is... but yeah, the fact that they are in the same conference makes it tough to say one is 'major' and one is 'mid-major'...

They're a major program in an otherwise mid-major conference. They're a unicorn, there's no one else like them.

And yes I think the term "mid-major" is silly too.

(01-18-2023 09:06 AM)Buckeye22 Wrote:  "Gonzaga doesn't count.....but this consistently competitive team from their conference who gives them their only real competition from January-March does!"

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Where did that quote come from? I couldn't find it in the linked article. I think all they are saying is that Gonzaga can't be considered a potential Cinderella but St. Mary's can.

(01-18-2023 11:31 AM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 10:50 AM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 09:06 AM)Buckeye22 Wrote:  "Gonzaga doesn't count.....but this consistently competitive team from their conference who gives them their only real competition from January-March does!"

??

...I think they are trying to say that Gonzaga, although a 'mid-major', is now in actuality a 'major', or whatever the next level up form 'mid-major' is... but yeah, the fact that they are in the same conference makes it tough to say one is 'major' and one is 'mid-major'...

They're a major program in an otherwise mid-major conference. They're a unicorn, there's no one else like them.

And yes I think the term "mid-major" is silly too.

...especially in basketball... I get the football parlance (as honestly, we are at 'P2' status now anyway, with a few others unwittingly wandering in every once in awhile...) But the WCC is a pretty decent conference, at least the top half-ish - I know St. Mary's, San Francisco, and Pepperdine have all seemed to be respectable to pretty stout over the last 3-4 seasons...

(01-18-2023 12:36 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 09:06 AM)Buckeye22 Wrote:  "Gonzaga doesn't count.....but this consistently competitive team from their conference who gives them their only real competition from January-March does!"

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Where did that quote come from? I couldn't find it in the linked article. I think all they are saying is that Gonzaga can't be considered a potential Cinderella but St. Mary's can.

From my head. Lol.

I agree Gonzaga is a major at this point, but it's not like St. Marys is coming out of nowhere at this point.

(01-18-2023 05:37 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 11:31 AM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 10:50 AM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 09:06 AM)Buckeye22 Wrote:  "Gonzaga doesn't count.....but this consistently competitive team from their conference who gives them their only real competition from January-March does!"

??

...I think they are trying to say that Gonzaga, although a 'mid-major', is now in actuality a 'major', or whatever the next level up form 'mid-major' is... but yeah, the fact that they are in the same conference makes it tough to say one is 'major' and one is 'mid-major'...

They're a major program in an otherwise mid-major conference. They're a unicorn, there's no one else like them.

And yes I think the term "mid-major" is silly too.

...especially in basketball... I get the football parlance (as honestly, we are at 'P2' status now anyway, with a few others unwittingly wandering in every once in awhile...) But the WCC is a pretty decent conference, at least the top half-ish - I know St. Mary's, San Francisco, and Pepperdine have all seemed to be respectable to pretty stout over the last 3-4 seasons...

BYU too, but I know, they are big 12 bound next year.
Gonzaga should join the PAC if they can. If the PAC doesn’t raid the MWC then the Zags should consider them. A very solid western conference with schools with major hoop facilities like UNM, UNLV, SDSU, Utah St, Boise St and Nevada. It would be fun playing schools with big arenas and sell out crowds for them. I would think. Big East is just too far away.