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15-3, 5-0. Got the job done. Nice win!

Big game Friday night…..gotta beat NIU.

Go Flashes!
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01-17-2023 09:07 PM
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(01-17-2023 09:07 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  15-3, 5-0. Got the job done. Nice win!

Big game Friday night…..gotta beat NIU.

Go Flashes!

Not necessarily a complaint, because the defense is so solid ... but an observation just the same:

Starting to notice a lot of 2-3 minute scoring droughts in each half. Something to keep an eye on going forward.
01-17-2023 09:17 PM
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RE: Kent State @ Eastern Michigan
(01-17-2023 07:01 PM)burden Wrote:  
(01-17-2023 06:50 PM)bopol Wrote:  
(01-17-2023 01:59 PM)burden Wrote:  
(01-16-2023 03:09 PM)bopol Wrote:  
(01-16-2023 12:42 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  Thanks GFlash68. If I could be reincarnated as Terry Pluto, Elton Alexander or Dave Carducci, I would take it. Those three guys were always my favorite writers from November to March. I still enjoy reading Pluto.

With regards to Cli’ron Hornbeak…it is fun to watch a post player develop over the course of his college career. It would be a pleasure to see him stick around and accept a leadership role over the next couple years. -- speaking strictly of KSUMAC coverage.

I'd go with Hal Lebowitz being my favorite. You're doing great stuff, fallsdog.

I almost forgot that name. He was pretty good. Liked Chuck Heaton too.

Yes, I like Heaton too. In my opinion, things went downhill when Bud Shaw and Bill Livingston were hired on the PD side. I liked reading Pluto but my parents got the PD, not the ABJ, so I didn't see most of his work.

I agree on Livingston. Pretty much ignored him after awhile. Shaw I didn’t mind although I was probably influenced by watching him on the Les Levine TV show.

Say what you want about Livingston ... he definitely wrote more about Kent and traveled to a lot more games ... back when writers/columnists traveled with the teams. A lot more 'live' columns too.

Pluto always was a Dambrot/Akron guy until recently when he seems to have come around to Senderoff. -- Speaking just of KSU/MAC coverage.
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(01-17-2023 09:23 PM)cleveland Wrote:  
(01-17-2023 07:01 PM)burden Wrote:  
(01-17-2023 06:50 PM)bopol Wrote:  
(01-17-2023 01:59 PM)burden Wrote:  
(01-16-2023 03:09 PM)bopol Wrote:  I'd go with Hal Lebowitz being my favorite. You're doing great stuff, fallsdog.

I almost forgot that name. He was pretty good. Liked Chuck Heaton too.

Yes, I like Heaton too. In my opinion, things went downhill when Bud Shaw and Bill Livingston were hired on the PD side. I liked reading Pluto but my parents got the PD, not the ABJ, so I didn't see most of his work.

I agree on Livingston. Pretty much ignored him after awhile. Shaw I didn’t mind although I was probably influenced by watching him on the Les Levine TV show.

Say what you want about Livingston ... he definitely wrote more about Kent and traveled to a lot more games ... back when writers/columnists traveled with the teams. A lot more 'live' columns too.

Pluto always was a Dambrot/Akron guy until recently when he seems to have come around to Senderoff. -- Speaking just of KSU/MAC coverage.

Livingston showed more interest in Kent State basketball than anyone else, except for Alexander whose beat was the MAC. Pluto was a better writer before he found religion. I don't know if that was the cause, but he definitely lost his edge. And his interest in Kent State basketball was always pretty marginal.
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cleveland;

I agree with you. Livingston was all around solid. He wrote. People read. Just plain good

To your point about Pluto, true. But for me, even CSU or Akron coverage was/is better than OS freaking U. He has always been top notch.
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I don't mean to be rude about Livingston or Shaw. I just found Livingston to be far too negative in the early days with the PD and kind of started ignoring him. Shaw, well, I never found that compelling compared to Lebowitz or Heaton. Honestly, this is drawing on 25 year old views because I haven't gotten a newspaper in 25 years. It's weird to think about going to the kitchen table for breakfast reading through the sports page when that just isn't a thing anymore.
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Beat Ball State, that is.
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So the number one criterion for a sportswriter is how well he covers Kent State?? I think how they covered the Cleveland pro teams might be a tad more relevant!!
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(01-17-2023 11:12 PM)bopol Wrote:  I don't mean to be rude about Livingston or Shaw. I just found Livingston to be far too negative in the early days with the PD and kind of started ignoring him. Shaw, well, I never found that compelling compared to Lebowitz or Heaton. Honestly, this is drawing on 25 year old views because I haven't gotten a newspaper in 25 years. It's weird to think about going to the kitchen table for breakfast reading through the sports page when that just isn't a thing anymore.

I don’t read the papers either but writing is writing whether it’s the newspaper, cleveland.com, the Athletic, ESPN, etc.
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(01-18-2023 08:43 AM)burden Wrote:  So the number one criterion for a sportswriter is how well he covers Kent State?? I think how they covered the Cleveland pro teams might be a tad more relevant!!

Of course it isn't Burden, but my comments were made based on the assumption that that is what was being discussed - Kent State coverage. The quality of "sports reporting", especially the printed form, has declined considerably over the decades for reasons much too numerous and complex to discuss in this forum. I for one would never have wanted the job even if I were qualified because there are always going to be too many disgruntled readers - either a writer is too much of a "homer", or not enough of a "homer".
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(01-18-2023 08:55 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  
(01-18-2023 08:43 AM)burden Wrote:  So the number one criterion for a sportswriter is how well he covers Kent State?? I think how they covered the Cleveland pro teams might be a tad more relevant!!

Of course it isn't Burden, but my comments were made based on the assumption that that is what was being discussed - Kent State coverage. The quality of "sports reporting", especially the printed form, has declined considerably over the decades for reasons much too numerous and complex to discuss in this forum. I for one would never have wanted the job even if I were qualified because there are always going to be too many disgruntled readers - either a writer is too much of a "homer", or not enough of a "homer".

Fair enough.
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Wow. That was a boring game if y'all are droning on about journalism.
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Senderhoff is being interviewed between 8:30 and 9:00 Thursday on WTAM 1100AM (or is it 92.3 The Fan, hell getting old). Pretty sure it’s 1100 since that’s what I listen to most of the time between 6 and 7 AM.
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Couple of nice post ups by Hornbeak last night. Best I’ve seen from him. How about that breakaway jam? I’m yelling at the TV “give it up” but he got it down with authority!
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(01-18-2023 09:43 AM)Old Man Flash Wrote:  Couple of nice post ups by Hornbeak last night. Best I’ve seen from him. How about that breakaway jam? I’m yelling at the TV “give it up” but he got it down with authority!

Yeah he didn't exactly stick the landing. Was pretty worried he was hurt until he got up and the bench started laughing at him. But hey, everything before the landing looked great.
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(01-17-2023 08:32 PM)Old Man Flash Wrote:  Defensive excellence and offensively offensive

I'm well aware of the quotation about lies, damned lies and statistics, but in conference games the Flashes are not the conference's best defensive team, statistically speaking. That honor belongs to Akron, in the majority of categories.
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(01-18-2023 09:12 AM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  Wow. That was a boring game if y'all are droning on about journalism.

Nah, I'm just weird.
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(01-18-2023 07:33 PM)Muskrat Wrote:  
(01-17-2023 08:32 PM)Old Man Flash Wrote:  Defensive excellence and offensively offensive

I'm well aware of the quotation about lies, damned lies and statistics, but in conference games the Flashes are not the conference's best defensive team, statistically speaking. That honor belongs to Akron, in the majority of categories.

Akron leads the league in most offensive categories, including nose hairs.
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Senderhoff is at 8:45 on WTAM 1100. They confirmed it this morning
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