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NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
It won't be long before a guy plays the first half for one team then the second half for the other.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
It's a step in the right direction. I'd like to see them limit intraconference movement as well.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
The "student-athletes" or someone that represents them will probably just file a lawsuit against this.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-12-2023 09:54 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
They can one time which I think is fair.
Unlimited movement (perpetual free agency) isn't so good for the stability or competitive balance of the game. It opens up way to many issues and attracts to many undesirable consequences, but that's just one guys opinion.
I know the NFL has rules that in effect limit movement to keep competitive balance.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
So does this mean I get to see less "respect my decesion" tweets. I'm all in.......
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-12-2023 04:35 PM)otown Wrote: So does this mean I get to see less "respect my decesion" tweets. I'm all in.......
"with that being said...."
I'm in too, it's gotten way to self indulgent!
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-12-2023 04:24 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: (01-12-2023 09:54 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
They can one time which I think is fair.
Unlimited movement (perpetual free agency) isn't so good for the stability or competitive balance of the game. It opens up way to many issues and attracts to many undesirable consequences, but that's just one guys opinion.
I know the NFL has rules that in effect limit movement to keep competitive balance.
You should be able to follow the Coach.
If you started with Coach Prime at Jackson State, now transferred to Colorado, then Coach Prime gets another job in a year or 2, you should be able to follow him.
UCF had 4 coaches in 7 years from 2015-2021 and each pretty much changed the system and philosophy. From Power-Run, to High Tempo Spread, to Run and Shoot, to Power-RPO... sometimes you don't fit the system and you need to transfer.
The coaches live without restrictions, so should the players.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-12-2023 05:36 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: (01-12-2023 04:24 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: (01-12-2023 09:54 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
They can one time which I think is fair.
Unlimited movement (perpetual free agency) isn't so good for the stability or competitive balance of the game. It opens up way to many issues and attracts to many undesirable consequences, but that's just one guys opinion.
I know the NFL has rules that in effect limit movement to keep competitive balance.
You should be able to follow the Coach.
If you started with Coach Prime at Jackson State, now transferred to Colorado, then Coach Prime gets another job in a year or 2, you should be able to follow him.
UCF had 4 coaches in 7 years from 2015-2021 and each pretty much changed the system and philosophy. From Power-Run, to High Tempo Spread, to Run and Shoot, to Power-RPO... sometimes you don't fit the system and you need to transfer.
The coaches live without restrictions, so should the players.
very much this.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-12-2023 09:54 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
So if we pay Kirby Smart enough money to come to UCF he can bring his whole team with him if we raise enough money?.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-12-2023 08:42 PM)Meatwad Wrote: (01-12-2023 05:36 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: (01-12-2023 04:24 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: (01-12-2023 09:54 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
They can one time which I think is fair.
Unlimited movement (perpetual free agency) isn't so good for the stability or competitive balance of the game. It opens up way to many issues and attracts to many undesirable consequences, but that's just one guys opinion.
I know the NFL has rules that in effect limit movement to keep competitive balance.
You should be able to follow the Coach.
If you started with Coach Prime at Jackson State, now transferred to Colorado, then Coach Prime gets another job in a year or 2, you should be able to follow him.
UCF had 4 coaches in 7 years from 2015-2021 and each pretty much changed the system and philosophy. From Power-Run, to High Tempo Spread, to Run and Shoot, to Power-RPO... sometimes you don't fit the system and you need to transfer.
The coaches live without restrictions, so should the players.
very much this.
I see what you guys are saying and understand. The player can move with the coach one time freely.
There is also the stability of rosters and what's good for the games competitive balance. You can't have mass exodus all the time. There is a lot of investment made to provide opportunity for these student athlete's which is bigger than the individual.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-12-2023 05:36 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: (01-12-2023 04:24 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: (01-12-2023 09:54 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
They can one time which I think is fair.
Unlimited movement (perpetual free agency) isn't so good for the stability or competitive balance of the game. It opens up way to many issues and attracts to many undesirable consequences, but that's just one guys opinion.
I know the NFL has rules that in effect limit movement to keep competitive balance.
You should be able to follow the Coach.
If you started with Coach Prime at Jackson State, now transferred to Colorado, then Coach Prime gets another job in a year or 2, you should be able to follow him.
UCF had 4 coaches in 7 years from 2015-2021 and each pretty much changed the system and philosophy. From Power-Run, to High Tempo Spread, to Run and Shoot, to Power-RPO... sometimes you don't fit the system and you need to transfer.
The coaches live without restrictions, so should the players.
The coaches have buyouts in their contracts. With all the NIL money floating around, the players should have to buy their scholarships out or re-pay them if they move on with that logic.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-12-2023 05:36 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: (01-12-2023 04:24 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: (01-12-2023 09:54 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
They can one time which I think is fair.
Unlimited movement (perpetual free agency) isn't so good for the stability or competitive balance of the game. It opens up way to many issues and attracts to many undesirable consequences, but that's just one guys opinion.
I know the NFL has rules that in effect limit movement to keep competitive balance.
You should be able to follow the Coach.
If you started with Coach Prime at Jackson State, now transferred to Colorado, then Coach Prime gets another job in a year or 2, you should be able to follow him.
UCF had 4 coaches in 7 years from 2015-2021 and each pretty much changed the system and philosophy. From Power-Run, to High Tempo Spread, to Run and Shoot, to Power-RPO... sometimes you don't fit the system and you need to transfer.
The coaches live without restrictions, so should the players.
In theory they are there to go to school and the football is extra. It is rather hard to graduate changing schools every year or two.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-12-2023 05:36 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: (01-12-2023 04:24 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: (01-12-2023 09:54 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
They can one time which I think is fair.
Unlimited movement (perpetual free agency) isn't so good for the stability or competitive balance of the game. It opens up way to many issues and attracts to many undesirable consequences, but that's just one guys opinion.
I know the NFL has rules that in effect limit movement to keep competitive balance.
You should be able to follow the Coach.
If you started with Coach Prime at Jackson State, now transferred to Colorado, then Coach Prime gets another job in a year or 2, you should be able to follow him.
UCF had 4 coaches in 7 years from 2015-2021 and each pretty much changed the system and philosophy. From Power-Run, to High Tempo Spread, to Run and Shoot, to Power-RPO... sometimes you don't fit the system and you need to transfer.
The coaches live without restrictions, so should the players.
If you look at it from the macro side of things, pure capitalism doesn't work. There has to be some regulation. All businesses have it. I hate regulation from a purists point of view, but without it there's going be a lot of bad stuff going on that won't benefit anyone.
This is where contracts come into play. You can't just take a job with a competitor without some kind of protection for the employer. You can't just leave Alabama and go to Georgia in the real world. Players or coaches.
Are the players amateurs or professionals? Right now they're neither and that's a problem. They really need to restructure this whole thing.
Nobody's going to go after someone leaving McDonalds to go to Burger King, but they sure as hell are going to go after you if you leave Microsoft to go to Apple.
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RE: NCAA first attempt at limiting in transfers...
(01-13-2023 10:28 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: (01-12-2023 05:36 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: (01-12-2023 04:24 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: (01-12-2023 09:54 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: If the HC coaches leaves, you should be able to leave without losing eligibility.
They can one time which I think is fair.
Unlimited movement (perpetual free agency) isn't so good for the stability or competitive balance of the game. It opens up way to many issues and attracts to many undesirable consequences, but that's just one guys opinion.
I know the NFL has rules that in effect limit movement to keep competitive balance.
You should be able to follow the Coach.
If you started with Coach Prime at Jackson State, now transferred to Colorado, then Coach Prime gets another job in a year or 2, you should be able to follow him.
UCF had 4 coaches in 7 years from 2015-2021 and each pretty much changed the system and philosophy. From Power-Run, to High Tempo Spread, to Run and Shoot, to Power-RPO... sometimes you don't fit the system and you need to transfer.
The coaches live without restrictions, so should the players.
If you look at it from the macro side of things, pure capitalism doesn't work. There has to be some regulation. All businesses have it. I hate regulation from a purists point of view, but without it there's going be a lot of bad stuff going on that won't benefit anyone.
This is where contracts come into play. You can't just take a job with a competitor without some kind of protection for the employer. You can't just leave Alabama and go to Georgia in the real world. Players or coaches.
Are the players amateurs or professionals? Right now they're neither and that's a problem. They really need to restructure this whole thing.
Nobody's going to go after someone leaving McDonalds to go to Burger King, but they sure as hell are going to go after you if you leave Microsoft to go to Apple.
I dislike the portal and NIL but to the bolded, of course you can and people do every single day.
Nothing stops you. Even if you sign a non-compete/restrictive covenant. Feel free. Doctrine of efficient breach. Perhaps it leads to litigation if it's that sensitive of a role or the damages are thy definitive but it's not illegal to move companies. We aren't talking about stealing trade secrets here. Competitive economic advantage? Ruh-ro, Raggy...
Classify them as employees with a non-compete and then litigate with a temporary and permanent restraining order when they transfer on the basis of irreparable harm? That will be really fun.
NCAA already squeezed the toothpaste out of the tube. The trail for litigating this going forward is lit up in bright neon cobblestones for plaintiffs' attorneys to follow on behalf of their student athlete clients. It's permanently FUBARed.
(This post was last modified: 01-17-2023 07:12 AM by rath v2.0.)
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