Penny is a great recruiter and NIT coach. Last night should have been the end to the Penny experiment.
Most of us have forgiven Cal. It was over a decade ago when he left.
Cal is on the hot seat at UK.
Lets bring him back.

He still have that side piece in Harbor Town? Could be a plug and play situation

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(01-12-2023 07:36 AM)fsquid Wrote:  He still have that side piece in Harbor Town? Could be a plug and play situation

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(01-12-2023 07:27 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Penny is a great recruiter and NIT coach. Last night should have been the end to the Penny experiment.
Most of us have forgiven Cal. It was over a decade ago when he left.
Cal is on the hot seat at UK.
Lets bring him back.

If he couldn't make it at Ky. why in the L would we want him back at Memphis? You would probably want him to hire the sweat hog as assistant coach.
The tigers would certainly be the talk of the town then.

I wonder if Penny will want to keep going after the last of his East kids leaves?

Pitino might be cheaper.

(01-12-2023 07:52 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 07:27 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Penny is a great recruiter and NIT coach. Last night should have been the end to the Penny experiment.
Most of us have forgiven Cal. It was over a decade ago when he left.
Cal is on the hot seat at UK.
Lets bring him back.

If he couldn't make it at Ky. why in the L would we want him back at Memphis? You would probably want him to hire the sweat hog as assistant coach.
The tigers would certainly be the talk of the town then.

Not worked out at Kentucky? He is 375-107 at Kentucky
- 1 Sweet 16
- 3 Elite 8
- 2 Final Four
- 1 Championship loss
- 1 National Championship

Sign me up for that kind of not being able to make it...

(01-12-2023 09:00 AM)Claw Wrote:  Pitino might be cheaper.

And better. Pitino wins. He CAN coach!

People forget how similar Penny and Cal are. Great recruiters. Great marketers for the program. The knock on both is their ability to influence the game from the sidelines.

Edit: I'm not looking to run Penny out. I don't typically want a coach with baggage. Pitino's skills simply out-weigh his baggage. He coaches at the highest level. And his is issues include having an affair and operating the same as ever other NCAA coach - using shoe company to lure players. Other coaches have survived that "indictment."

(01-12-2023 09:57 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 09:00 AM)Claw Wrote:  Pitino might be cheaper.

And better. Pitino wins. He CAN coach!

People forget how similar Penny and Cal are. Great recruiters. Great marketers for the program. The knock on both is their ability to influence the game from the sidelines.

One sideline difference, however, Cal only hires yes men as assistants. Penny does not appear to do that (Brown, Heath, Toppert, etc). Whether Penny listens to them or not, I don't know.

If Cal ever sets foot in FedEx Forum again, I will boo until I lose my voice.

(01-12-2023 10:05 AM)micman Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 09:57 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 09:00 AM)Claw Wrote:  Pitino might be cheaper.

And better. Pitino wins. He CAN coach!

People forget how similar Penny and Cal are. Great recruiters. Great marketers for the program. The knock on both is their ability to influence the game from the sidelines.

One sideline difference, however, Cal only hires yes men as assistants. Penny does not appear to do that (Brown, Heath, Toppert, etc). Whether Penny listens to them or not, I don't know.

Agree. I'm in not saying they are identical. Cal and Penny simply have similar strengths and weaknesses.

Major difference (and it's a biggie): Penny has an agreeable personality whereas Cal has a disagreeable personality.

(01-12-2023 10:13 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 10:05 AM)micman Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 09:57 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 09:00 AM)Claw Wrote:  Pitino might be cheaper.

And better. Pitino wins. He CAN coach!

People forget how similar Penny and Cal are. Great recruiters. Great marketers for the program. The knock on both is their ability to influence the game from the sidelines.

One sideline difference, however, Cal only hires yes men as assistants. Penny does not appear to do that (Brown, Heath, Toppert, etc). Whether Penny listens to them or not, I don't know.

Agree. I'm in now way saying they are identical. Cal and Penny simply have similar strengths and weaknesses.

Yep. Penny is the hometown discount version. I have been impressed with penny this year. He has gotten out coached but he has also done a pretty good job in a lot of spots. I think last night he just panicked. KO should have played in the 2nd half, we took some terrible shots in big spots, etc.
we will be ok, penny will be ok. We got our hopes up and thought we might be something we aren’t. This team is a borderline tourny team and it has been since the first game. We can make the dance, we can miss the dance. Next year we have players coming in again.

It’s tempting…
We’ve only won 3 NCAA tournament games in the 13 years he’s been gone… ugh.

(01-12-2023 09:23 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 07:52 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 07:27 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Penny is a great recruiter and NIT coach. Last night should have been the end to the Penny experiment.
Most of us have forgiven Cal. It was over a decade ago when he left.
Cal is on the hot seat at UK.
Lets bring him back.

If he couldn't make it at Ky. why in the L would we want him back at Memphis? You would probably want him to hire the sweat hog as assistant coach.
The tigers would certainly be the talk of the town then.

Not worked out at Kentucky? He is 375-107 at Kentucky
- 1 Sweet 16
- 3 Elite 8
- 2 Final Four
- 1 Championship loss
- 1 National Championship

Sign me up for that kind of not being able to make it...

In the 15 year period between 2006 - 2020, counting 2020, when the season was cancelled and they were ranked #7 in the country, Cal went to the Sweet 16 or better every year in 13 of them.

1 - National Championship
5 - Final Four
6 - Elite 8
2 - Sweet 16
13 - NCAA Appearances

What did we have before Cal? I think 3 Final Fours, if you count the NIT in 1957, 1 Elite 8 and 4 Sweet 16's. BUT...Cal sucks. Some of our fans are psychos.

Having said that, as the years pile up from WWW not being the only game in town, and everyone being in on the best recruits, and many of them not playing college, time has caught up to Cal. He is clearly trending down.

Texas has feelers out to Cal's reps.

(01-12-2023 11:25 AM)Rufus T. Firefly Wrote:  Texas has feelers out to Cal's reps.

I think he's gone. We'll see.

(01-12-2023 08:11 AM)Claw Wrote:  I wonder if Penny will want to keep going after the last of his East kids leaves?

Only way his boy ALo could get playing time, even the Filipino league took a pass.

(01-12-2023 09:23 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 07:52 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 07:27 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Penny is a great recruiter and NIT coach. Last night should have been the end to the Penny experiment.
Most of us have forgiven Cal. It was over a decade ago when he left.
Cal is on the hot seat at UK.
Lets bring him back.

If he couldn't make it at Ky. why in the L would we want him back at Memphis? You would probably want him to hire the sweat hog as assistant coach.
The tigers would certainly be the talk of the town then.

Not worked out at Kentucky? He is 375-107 at Kentucky
- 1 Sweet 16
- 3 Elite 8
- 2 Final Four
- 1 Championship loss
- 1 National Championship

Sign me up for that kind of not being able to make it...

Since he is doing so wonderful at KY then why is he on the hot seat ??

(01-12-2023 09:23 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 07:52 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 07:27 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Penny is a great recruiter and NIT coach. Last night should have been the end to the Penny experiment.
Most of us have forgiven Cal. It was over a decade ago when he left.
Cal is on the hot seat at UK.
Lets bring him back.

If he couldn't make it at Ky. why in the L would we want him back at Memphis? You would probably want him to hire the sweat hog as assistant coach.
The tigers would certainly be the talk of the town then.

Not worked out at Kentucky? He is 375-107 at Kentucky
- 1 Sweet 16
- 3 Elite 8
- 2 Final Four
- 1 Championship loss
- 1 National Championship

Sign me up for that kind of not being able to make it...

Since he is doing so wonderful at KY then why is he on the hot seat ??

(01-12-2023 12:34 PM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 09:23 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 07:52 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 07:27 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Penny is a great recruiter and NIT coach. Last night should have been the end to the Penny experiment.
Most of us have forgiven Cal. It was over a decade ago when he left.
Cal is on the hot seat at UK.
Lets bring him back.

If he couldn't make it at Ky. why in the L would we want him back at Memphis? You would probably want him to hire the sweat hog as assistant coach.
The tigers would certainly be the talk of the town then.

Not worked out at Kentucky? He is 375-107 at Kentucky
- 1 Sweet 16
- 3 Elite 8
- 2 Final Four
- 1 Championship loss
- 1 National Championship

Sign me up for that kind of not being able to make it...

Since he is doing so wonderful at KY then why is he on the hot seat ??

He hasn't won a NCAA Tournament game in over 1,000 days.