He was nominated for Speaker of the House of Representatives, an honor bestowed on few in our country's short history...but the open racism against Byron Donalds from Demokkkrats is sickeing...of course, the Leftist MSM basically ignores. Remember that the Demokkkratic Party started the KKK, was responsible for Jim Crow, opposed Civil Rights, was against Freed Black Americans being able to defend themselves from the KKK with their own guns, et cetera, et cetera...From the Party of Racism: the Demokkkratic Party, Byron's own wife calls out the racist Demokkkraat Party and their brainless, ignorant, racist sheeple and shows umpteen examples of who the real racists in America are:

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Byron and I have been together for 23+ years, and the most racist attacks we experience are always from the left. They can’t accept that a free thinking black man achieves success on his own merits, and they sure as heck can’t stand that he’s married to me!
Cry harder, haters.

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Respectfully, The headline here is better suited to other forums and not one associated with the Rice posters on here... you are not likely to get a lot of engagement as a result.... even if the actual subject IS worthy of discussion.

Is it worthy? Some democrats are racist. No duh lol

(01-11-2023 01:52 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Respectfully, The headline here is better suited to other forums and not one associated with the Rice posters on here... you are not likely to get a lot of engagement as a result.... even if the actual subject IS worthy of discussion.

I'm wondering how GoodOwl/Daneils' wife are so sure that every tweet referenced is from a leftist? It seems many of them are simply from various black people who are commenting on their displeasure on a successful black man marrying a white woman. Certainly one can argue if that opinion is racist or not... but how did political allegiance come into play here?

Oh well... it's never worth trying to engage GoodOwl when it comes to his unhinged posts and if I were smarter I would ignore them altogether.

(01-11-2023 01:52 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Respectfully, The headline here is better suited to other forums and not one associated with the Rice posters on here... you are not likely to get a lot of engagement as a result.... even if the actual subject IS worthy of discussion.

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LOL @ the edited title

(01-11-2023 01:57 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 01:52 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Respectfully, The headline here is better suited to other forums and not one associated with the Rice posters on here... you are not likely to get a lot of engagement as a result.... even if the actual subject IS worthy of discussion.

I'm wondering how GoodOwl/Daneils' wife are so sure that every tweet referenced is from a leftist? It seems many of them are simply from various black people who are commenting on their displeasure on a successful black man marrying a white woman. Certainly one can argue if that opinion is racist or not... but how did political allegiance come into play here?

Oh well... it's never worth trying to engage GoodOwl when it comes to his unhinged posts and if I were smarter I would ignore them altogether.

In fairness, odds are pretty good that black people are strongly democrat... more than any other demographic somehow which IS a head scratcher given the history of the party.... and how long this has been the case. I mean, some of them voted for Strom Thurmond, whom I believe was actually a leader in the Klan at some point (I may be wrong on Strom, but I remember seeing that about someone of his era).

(01-11-2023 02:20 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  LOL @ the edited title

Hey, it's better than the original one.... but its hard to 'fix' the topic.

(01-11-2023 02:33 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 01:57 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 01:52 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Respectfully, The headline here is better suited to other forums and not one associated with the Rice posters on here... you are not likely to get a lot of engagement as a result.... even if the actual subject IS worthy of discussion.

I'm wondering how GoodOwl/Daneils' wife are so sure that every tweet referenced is from a leftist? It seems many of them are simply from various black people who are commenting on their displeasure on a successful black man marrying a white woman. Certainly one can argue if that opinion is racist or not... but how did political allegiance come into play here?

Oh well... it's never worth trying to engage GoodOwl when it comes to his unhinged posts and if I were smarter I would ignore them altogether.

In fairness, odds are pretty good that black people are strongly democrat... more than any other demographic somehow which IS a head scratcher given the history of the party.... and how long this has been the case. I mean, some of them voted for Strom Thurmond, whom I believe was actually a leader in the Klan at some point (I may be wrong on Strom, but I remember seeing that about someone of his era).

Wait, what?

You are suggesting the the author of the tweet (who happens to be married to a prominent BLACK REPUBLICAN) can safely assume that a black person in general is strongly Democrat? Pardon me if I don't follow that logic even a little bit.

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(01-11-2023 02:20 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  LOL @ the edited title

Hey, it's better than the original one.... but its hard to 'fix' the topic.

Can we really blame the poor quality of the two titles put forth on the "difficulty" of the topic or should we blame the author of the two titles?

(01-11-2023 04:22 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  Wait, what?

You are suggesting the the author of the tweet (who happens to be married to a prominent BLACK REPUBLICAN) can safely assume that a black person in general is strongly Democrat? Pardon me if I don't follow that logic even a little bit.

Yes, one can assume that in general, which is to say, statistically. Obviously, her spouse, in particular, is not a Democrat.

The large majority of black voters are Democrat. Surely that's a priori and common knowledge?

If you aren’t voting for me you aren’t black - Joe Biden

(01-11-2023 05:02 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 04:22 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  Wait, what?

You are suggesting the the author of the tweet (who happens to be married to a prominent BLACK REPUBLICAN) can safely assume that a black person in general is strongly Democrat? Pardon me if I don't follow that logic even a little bit.

Yes, one can assume that in general, which is to say, statistically. Obviously, her spouse, in particular, is not a Democrat.

The large majority of black voters are Democrat. Surely that's a priori and common knowledge?

Um... yes... but it is still a bit much to call out "any" black person as being a leftist. For one thing, do you think it's possible that the demographics of people who follow Ms. Daniels on Twitter may not follow the overall demographics of the country? Perhaps it skews towards a higher percentage of Republicans? Black Republicans even?

(01-11-2023 05:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If you aren’t voting for me you aren’t blCk. - Joe Biden

Exactly. That's what some on this thread seem to be suggesting. I was going to bring that up myself.

"If you aren't voting Democrat you aren't black!". Weird. I thought we all hated that quote.

(01-11-2023 05:27 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 05:02 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 04:22 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  Wait, what?

You are suggesting the the author of the tweet (who happens to be married to a prominent BLACK REPUBLICAN) can safely assume that a black person in general is strongly Democrat? Pardon me if I don't follow that logic even a little bit.

Yes, one can assume that in general, which is to say, statistically. Obviously, her spouse, in particular, is not a Democrat.

The large majority of black voters are Democrat. Surely that's a priori and common knowledge?

Um... yes... but it is still a bit much to call out "any" black person as being a leftist. For one thing, do you think it's possible that the demographics of people who follow Ms. Daniels on Twitter may not follow the overall demographics of the country? Perhaps it skews towards a higher percentage of Republicans? Black Republicans even?

You're perhaps unintentionally moving the goal posts around. First you talk about 'black person in general' and then you get much more granular.

I think it obvious... and UNUSUALLY so... that black people are STRONGLY in the pocket of the left. High 80% or higher, depending on whom you ask. No other single characteristic demographic you can probably think of, including I suspect evangelical Christians skews that strongly, in small part because some evangelical Christians are black.... and given the history of the party and how long its been going on, that is even MORE wierd to me.

Yes, just like there are some 'antagonists' who follow Trump or what have you, I suspect that most who would have an issue with what she says aren't supporters of her positions in general. You seem to feel that the only people who reply on her page would have to be fans?? If that's what you think, you probably haven't spent a lot of time reading the comments on ANYONE like her's page.

(01-11-2023 05:29 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 05:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If you aren’t voting for me you aren’t blCk. - Joe Biden

Exactly. That's what some on this thread seem to be suggesting. I was going to bring that up myself.

"If you aren't voting Democrat you aren't black!". Weird. I thought we all hated that quote.

Just because we all hate something doesn't mean we hate it for the same reasons. Some people hate the 24 week abortion limit because its too late, some because its too early.

In that quote, to me anyway, Joe Biden is presuming the support of the ENTIRE black community... which of course 'insults' (choose your adjective, I don't mean it stringly... dismisses??) black people who DON'T support him, and also dismisses those who do as if they are 'in the bag' and he doesn't have to listen to them. Of course there is some projection in there as there always will be, but I think we can all agree that it is in some way, dismissive.

Just because we hate the quote doesn't mean that it isn't GENERALLY true. If you're black, the odds are STRONGLY in favor of you supporting Democrats, not Republicans... and not 60/40 or even 80/20 strong... but closer to 90/10.

Do you not find it unusual, given the way Asian Americans were treated in this country, not meaningfully indifferent from the way blacks were prior to say 1900, and then how much WORSE they were treated BY THE GOVERNMENT, much less individuals during WWII (many of them being illegally incarcerated, having assets lost stolen or looted, dying etc etc) and yet quite literally nobody of any stature in the Democratic party, including those in California (where many Asians were indentured servants) who are pushing for reparations for black persons, are similarly pushing for reparations for Asians?? Could that have anything to do with it? Either a reason why so many blacks support Democrats, or because Asians don't skew so hard left, a reason why its not a priority for the party? Even in California? How about Hispanics? Some of whom are STILL essentially indentured servants

I don't know; I hang out with a lot of black folks who are definitely firmly conservative and/or conservative/libertarian and would NEVER vote for a Democrat. I would say many have expressed confusion over recent election results as, like me, have noticed a significant uptick in folks of color who are not in the D camp. Some of the most adamant folks I know who believe there has been massive election fraud recently, especially in the black demographic happen to be black. Many of us are disappointed in the apparent complicity with this in the Republican party.

(01-12-2023 11:28 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  I don't know; I hang out with a lot of black folks who are definitely firmly conservative and/or conservative/libertarian and would NEVER vote for a Democrat. I would say many have expressed confusion over recent election results as, like me, have noticed a significant uptick in folks of color who are not in the D camp.

I think the percentage of black people who fit that description has increased recently... but it seems mostly as a snap back from Obama... so really more of a 'timing' issue... as an example...

Clinton beat Trump with black voters 88-8
Biden beat Trump with black voters 87-12

Obama- Romney 93-6
Obama-McCain 95-4

Kerry - Bush 88-11
Gore - Bush 90-9

Interestingly
Clinton - Bush - Perot 83-10-7
Clinton - Romney - Perot 84-11-4

The Jewish population is really the only other demograpic close to that for either party and is of course, for dems... but its still in the 70's at best

(01-11-2023 05:29 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 05:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If you aren’t voting for me you aren’t blCk. - Joe Biden

Exactly. That's what some on this thread seem to be suggesting. I was going to bring that up myself.

"If you aren't voting Democrat you aren't black!". Weird. I thought we all hated that quote.

I don’t hate that quote. It seems perfectly illustrative of the Democratic Party’s attitude toward black voters - that their vote is in the bag, regardless of candidates or issues. And often it is.

(01-12-2023 12:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 05:29 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 05:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If you aren’t voting for me you aren’t blCk. - Joe Biden

Exactly. That's what some on this thread seem to be suggesting. I was going to bring that up myself.

"If you aren't voting Democrat you aren't black!". Weird. I thought we all hated that quote.

I don’t hate that quote. It seems perfectly illustrative of the Democratic Party’s attitude toward black voters - that their vote is in the bag, regardless of candidates or issues. And often it is.

(01-12-2023 12:05 PM)ummechengr Wrote:  Here's a fun video of a guy doing an impression of what I'm sure many leftists think MAGA is (racist) comparing ideologies to someone who's 'woke'.

(01-12-2023 11:42 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-12-2023 11:28 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  I don't know; I hang out with a lot of black folks who are definitely firmly conservative and/or conservative/libertarian and would NEVER vote for a Democrat. I would say many have expressed confusion over recent election results as, like me, have noticed a significant uptick in folks of color who are not in the D camp. Some of the most adamant folks I know who believe there has been massive election fraud recently, especially in the black demographic happen to be black. Many of us are disappointed in the apparent complicity with this in the Republican party.

I think the percentage of black people who fit that description has increased recently... but it seems mostly as a snap back from Obama... so really more of a 'timing' issue... as an example...

Clinton beat Trump with black voters 88-8
Biden beat Trump with black voters 87-12

Obama- Romney 93-6
Obama-McCain 95-4

Kerry - Bush 88-11
Gore - Bush 90-9

Interestingly
Clinton - Bush - Perot 83-10-7
Clinton - Romney - Perot 84-11-4

The Jewish population is really the only other demograpic close to that for either party and is of course, for dems... but its still in the 70's at best

edit: I would also add, Ham that your quote here seems quite disappointing, bordering on patronizing:

(01-12-2023 11:42 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  "I think the percentage of black people who fit that description has increased recently... but it seems mostly as a snap back from Obama... so really more of a 'timing' issue... as an example..."

My experience is it is a fundamental change or adjustment of ideology, and those many conservatives and conservative/libertarians aren't going to be going back to D any time soon, and some have observed how the Democratic Party and its ideology profoundly failed their parent or parents and nere were anything but conservative-leaning themselves. They think for themselves, a terrifying thought to those on the Left. They want off the Plantation, and are more unafraid than ever to say it and vote it. Merely reaching out and beinmg welcomed by non-D folks was all that was required, and that is one thing President Trump did, and then he actually had the gall to not only listen to concerns from these groups but to implenmet new policies and help pass laws that helped them in historically positive ways. The facts and numbers show these groups did better under President Trump than under any modern President. The Left and many who might be classified as RINOs in great part hated him for actually doing this, and so the unholy coalition to attempt to rid the country of President Trump and MAGA by all means possible joined hands to defraud the will of the people.

I agree those are the official numbers. What I'm saying is many of us believe those numbers are incorrect, enough to affect election outcomes differently, though still skewed towards being one-sided, just much less so. The presumption by some that one can tell how one will vote based upon mere skin color seems quite incorrect, and becoming moreso every day. This seems to terrify the Left, and they openly and often hostilely fight against the idea that anything but these groups of folks marching in total lock-step with them is blasphemy to their fake religion of party. To the point where they now are willing to argue openly and unashamedly against excellence, individuality, free will, et cetera in a last desperate attempt to hold onto their power and control. Sounds like slavery mentality all over again, and basically, that's all the Left really is or has.

can't make this stuff up...

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Wells Fargo is “getting out of the mortgage business” but will still issue loans to “existing customers and minorities” per CNBC

Why is Wells Fargo discriminating against aspiring white home owners? How is that legal?

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10:50 PM · Jan 11, 2023

Whitelining...using skin color (or perceived skin color) to determine access and/or outcome...the Very Definition of Racism...brought to you by your local Demokkkratic Party and Woke Lefty mega-Corporations.

Defend that, Left. Answer: they don't care about you. FQ.

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Album: The Record
Anthem: "I Don't Care About You"
May 16, 1982 FEAR Records/Slash Records

(01-12-2023 10:22 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 05:27 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 05:02 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 04:22 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  Wait, what?

You are suggesting the the author of the tweet (who happens to be married to a prominent BLACK REPUBLICAN) can safely assume that a black person in general is strongly Democrat? Pardon me if I don't follow that logic even a little bit.

Yes, one can assume that in general, which is to say, statistically. Obviously, her spouse, in particular, is not a Democrat.

The large majority of black voters are Democrat. Surely that's a priori and common knowledge?

Um... yes... but it is still a bit much to call out "any" black person as being a leftist. For one thing, do you think it's possible that the demographics of people who follow Ms. Daniels on Twitter may not follow the overall demographics of the country? Perhaps it skews towards a higher percentage of Republicans? Black Republicans even?

You're perhaps unintentionally moving the goal posts around. First you talk about 'black person in general' and then you get much more granular.

Not moving goalposts. It doesn't make sense to just assume all black people are leftists and it REALLY doesn't make sense to assume that all Twitter followers of Daniel's wife are leftist. Not that only her followers can comment on her tweet, but in general you would assume more eyes on the tweet from her followers.

Quote:I think it obvious... and UNUSUALLY so... that black people are STRONGLY in the pocket of the left. High 80% or higher, depending on whom you ask. No other single characteristic demographic you can probably think of, including I suspect evangelical Christians skews that strongly, in small part because some evangelical Christians are black.... and given the history of the party and how long its been going on, that is even MORE wierd to me.

Yes, just like there are some 'antagonists' who follow Trump or what have you, I suspect that most who would have an issue with what she says aren't supporters of her positions in general. You seem to feel that the only people who reply on her page would have to be fans?? If that's what you think, you probably haven't spent a lot of time reading the comments on ANYONE like her's page.

I don't think that... just that her followers will be the ones that initially and mainly propagate that tweet but of course her "enemies" could be commenting as well.

My original (and really my main) point was that this is not very likely a "pick-a-side" political issue at all. It seemed to be mostly various black people expressing displeasure at "yet another successful black man marrying a white woman". I have no dog in that fight, that POV could certainly be considered racist, but I'm not sure that it falls along political lines.

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(01-11-2023 05:29 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 05:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If you aren’t voting for me you aren’t blCk. - Joe Biden

Exactly. That's what some on this thread seem to be suggesting. I was going to bring that up myself.

"If you aren't voting Democrat you aren't black!". Weird. I thought we all hated that quote.

Just because we all hate something doesn't mean we hate it for the same reasons. Some people hate the 24 week abortion limit because its too late, some because its too early.

In that quote, to me anyway, Joe Biden is presuming the support of the ENTIRE black community... which of course 'insults' (choose your adjective, I don't mean it stringly... dismisses??) black people who DON'T support him, and also dismisses those who do as if they are 'in the bag' and he doesn't have to listen to them. Of course there is some projection in there as there always will be, but I think we can all agree that it is in some way, dismissive.

Just because we hate the quote doesn't mean that it isn't GENERALLY true. If you're black, the odds are STRONGLY in favor of you supporting Democrats, not Republicans... and not 60/40 or even 80/20 strong... but closer to 90/10.

Do you not find it unusual, given the way Asian Americans were treated in this country, not meaningfully indifferent from the way blacks were prior to say 1900, and then how much WORSE they were treated BY THE GOVERNMENT, much less individuals during WWII (many of them being illegally incarcerated, having assets lost stolen or looted, dying etc etc) and yet quite literally nobody of any stature in the Democratic party, including those in California (where many Asians were indentured servants) who are pushing for reparations for black persons, are similarly pushing for reparations for Asians?? Could that have anything to do with it? Either a reason why so many blacks support Democrats, or because Asians don't skew so hard left, a reason why its not a priority for the party? Even in California? How about Hispanics? Some of whom are STILL essentially indentured servants

I really don't understand the point that you are making about reparations. Which Democrats of reasonable stature are currently pushing for reparations for black people?