(01-11-2023 12:29 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 10:17 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Monday Night is terrible. If the NFL had a weather issue on a Championship Sunday, would they move the game to Saturday night or Monday night? Either way it's a day less/extra of rest for one team. The NFL would choose to play on Saturday. You just can't make fans travel or expect majority east coast viewers to stay up for these games.

Well, the NFL just added 2 playoff games in the last couple of years. The timeslots added were Sunday night and Monday night, not Saturday-at-noon-eastern.

Saturday noon is irrelevant. They also bumped the season such that Super WC weekend falls on MLK Holiday. Not a coincidence. It's not a typical Sunday night for the majority of the workforce, while Monday becomes a more traditional Sunday.

(01-11-2023 12:11 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 09:36 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  Thank God. The fewer people that saw it the better. Sadly I paid to see it in person. As good as the TCU-Michigan game was, this was the exact opposite.

It was not an enjoyable game. The traffic in and out was a mess. There was no tailgating, so inside the stadium it was packed before the game. The NFL games always have tailgating, so it is easy to walk around inside SoFi Stadium before a game.

The roof at SoFi Stadium is open on three sides, which allows for a cool breeze from the Pacific Ocean. For this particular game, that didn't work. It was raining hard outside and windy, which brought a sideway rain into the stadium. It was cold, fans were getting wet in the stands and on the 7th and 8th levels, the floors were slick from the rain, which caused people to slip and fall.

On the field, Georgia held TCU's star wide receiver, Quentin Johnson, to one catch for three yards. They completely took him out. Johnson is considered a first-round pick in the 2023 NFL draft. Georgia struggled with Ohio State's passing attack, which is loaded with NFL talent. TCU, to their credit, won a lot of close games in the Big 12. But they are not loaded with NFL talent like Ohio State is.

Sonny Dykes and his staff did a great job with what they had during the season. TCU was picked to finish 7th in the Big 12. But unlike Michigan, Georgia did not give away possessions. They didn't throw two pick-sixes and fumble at the one yard-line. They didn't run a Philly Special on 4th & goal at the two-yard line. Great season for TCU and Coach Dykes, but a sad ending. No way around that.

Not nearly as good a setting as the Rose Bowl. Of course, the Rose Bowl has traffic issues. But its not set in a parking lot and construction zone. We were at a Georgia tailgate party outside the casino, a good half mile from the stadium. Food wasn't very good, ground was soaked and it was a cold rainy walk on a sidewalk bounded by construction fences to get to the stadium. Casino wasn't particularly impressive. We had to go in there to wait in restroom lines. Just kind of a sterile setting like Texas Stadium in Irving. I'd take the Rose Bowl every time.

(01-11-2023 12:40 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 12:29 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 10:17 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Monday Night is terrible. If the NFL had a weather issue on a Championship Sunday, would they move the game to Saturday night or Monday night? Either way it's a day less/extra of rest for one team. The NFL would choose to play on Saturday. You just can't make fans travel or expect majority east coast viewers to stay up for these games.

Well, the NFL just added 2 playoff games in the last couple of years. The timeslots added were Sunday night and Monday night, not Saturday-at-noon-eastern.

Saturday noon is irrelevant. They also bumped the season such that Super WC weekend falls on MLK Holiday. Not a coincidence. It's not a typical Sunday night for the majority of the workforce, while Monday becomes a more traditional Sunday.

No it's not. If you don't play the NCG on Monday night, you;re playing it on Saturday at noon, because the NFL has claimed the other spots

(01-10-2023 06:47 PM)e-parade Wrote:  Average viewers? Well considering the game was out of hand in the first half it was incredibly boring to the average viewer. (edit: probably should have phrased this better, I know it means the average number of viewers and not the "average viewer" - I'm saying a typical viewer was much more likely to turn it off midway through the game and reduce the average number of viewers over the course of the game).

It's behind a paywall, is there anything on there about the peak number of viewers?

I intended to watch, but an online meeting ran until 8:30. Thinking that the listing I had read gave the CST start time, I expected the game to be early in the 1st Q. When I saw it was already halftime and 38-7, I saw no reason to turn it on. The UGA-tOSU game was great, although I don't care much for indoor games on artificial turf.

(01-11-2023 12:37 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 07:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  ....
Does anyone really believe expanding the CFP is going to change anything?Sure it will give everyone a warm and fuzzy feeling but come next January we’ll be talking about The SEC kicking the crap out of another PAC, Big 12, Big Ten or ACC school.
....

One of these is not like the others. On those occasions when an SEC team eats humble pie in January, it's more often than not an ACC team that serves it.

Where in my post did I mention anything about that? You’re drinking something and it isn’t coffee.

Since you brought it up, the ONLY conference to beat The SEC in Championship game in the CFP era has been The ACC.

Your post doesn’t change my original point. Chances are greater that an SEC program wins the CFP championship than a team from another conference.

(01-11-2023 01:02 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  No it's not. If you don't play the NCG on Monday night, you're playing it on Saturday at noon, because the NFL has claimed the other spots

We also have to keep in mind that schools have not returned to class until this past week, or the following week after the Holiday. That's typically where the NCG has gone. So it's easy to sell blocks of discounted tickets to juniors and seniors/grad students. Is that the majority of the stadium and revenue? No, but it's a good fraction. Now, both those Mondays will be gone (idle this week, MNF WC finale next week).

Whenever the new 25'-26' format is finalized, they will be keen on keeping Monday night, although pushing it a few days later to Championship weekend Saturday will be an option. Why this wasn't the case for the current reworked contract? Probably TV purposes no doubt. But as attendance is likely to fall off for the SFs, it would get a much needed boost for a Saturday NCG.

(01-11-2023 01:16 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 12:37 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 07:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  ....
Does anyone really believe expanding the CFP is going to change anything?Sure it will give everyone a warm and fuzzy feeling but come next January we’ll be talking about The SEC kicking the crap out of another PAC, Big 12, Big Ten or ACC school.
....

One of these is not like the others. On those occasions when an SEC team eats humble pie in January, it's more often than not an ACC team that serves it.

Where in my post did I mention anything about that? You’re drinking something and it isn’t coffee.

Since you brought it up, the ONLY conference to beat The SEC in Championship game in the CFP era has been The ACC.

Your post doesn’t change my original point. Chances are greater that an SEC program wins the CFP championship than a team from another conference.

About the bolded, yes that's pretty clear. SEC teams have won six CFP titles, including four in a row. All other conferences together have won three - the ACC two and the B1G one.

FWIW, the ACC is 2-4 vs the SEC in CFP playoff games. That is better than anyone else, the B1G is 1-4. The SEC has never lost to a PAC or Big 12 team in the playoffs. Two times, SEC teams have lost to other SEC teams in the playoffs, so an SEC team has been more likely to lose to another SEC team than to lose to a team from any other conference save the ACC, which they have also lost twice to.

Overall, the SEC is 14-3 in CFP playoff games against other conferences. That is pretty stellar. The SEC is currently on an 8-game winning streak in the CFP vs others. The last time an SEC team lost to a non-SEC team was Alabama to Clemson in the 2018 CFP title game.

(01-11-2023 12:47 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 12:11 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 09:36 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  Thank God. The fewer people that saw it the better. Sadly I paid to see it in person. As good as the TCU-Michigan game was, this was the exact opposite.

It was not an enjoyable game. The traffic in and out was a mess. There was no tailgating, so inside the stadium it was packed before the game. The NFL games always have tailgating, so it is easy to walk around inside SoFi Stadium before a game.

The roof at SoFi Stadium is open on three sides, which allows for a cool breeze from the Pacific Ocean. For this particular game, that didn't work. It was raining hard outside and windy, which brought a sideway rain into the stadium. It was cold, fans were getting wet in the stands and on the 7th and 8th levels, the floors were slick from the rain, which caused people to slip and fall.

On the field, Georgia held TCU's star wide receiver, Quentin Johnson, to one catch for three yards. They completely took him out. Johnson is considered a first-round pick in the 2023 NFL draft. Georgia struggled with Ohio State's passing attack, which is loaded with NFL talent. TCU, to their credit, won a lot of close games in the Big 12. But they are not loaded with NFL talent like Ohio State is.

Sonny Dykes and his staff did a great job with what they had during the season. TCU was picked to finish 7th in the Big 12. But unlike Michigan, Georgia did not give away possessions. They didn't throw two pick-sixes and fumble at the one yard-line. They didn't run a Philly Special on 4th & goal at the two-yard line. Great season for TCU and Coach Dykes, but a sad ending. No way around that.

Not nearly as good a setting as the Rose Bowl. Of course, the Rose Bowl has traffic issues. But its not set in a parking lot and construction zone. We were at a Georgia tailgate party outside the casino, a good half mile from the stadium. Food wasn't very good, ground was soaked and it was a cold rainy walk on a sidewalk bounded by construction fences to get to the stadium. Casino wasn't particularly impressive. We had to go in there to wait in restroom lines. Just kind of a sterile setting like Texas Stadium in Irving. I'd take the Rose Bowl every time.

At an NFL game at SoFi, there are tailgate parties in the parking lots. Plenty of portable restrooms. For this game, the stadium had all sorts of barricades that made the outside unfamiliar to me. The ticket processing area was moved closer to the NFL building, outside of the stadium. Two hours before the start of the game and there were long lines inside the stadium to use the restrooms. Just trying to navigate through the crowd was a challenge.

The construction is probably due to the Clippers building a new arena right next to SoFi and the casino that will open in 2024. There is a hotel and offices that are being built in that area as well. The stadium architecture looks and feels better on a normal day. Monday was far from normal. But I agree, it is hard to beat the setting at the Rose Bowl.

(01-11-2023 12:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-11-2023 11:52 AM)YNot Wrote:  Started at 20.33M at 8pm ET
Peaked at 22.36M at 8:30pm ET
Dropped to 20.79M at 9pm ET
Hovered around 16M from 9:15pm to 9:45pm ET
Dropped under 15M by 10pm ET
Fizzled out at 10.3M at 10:45PM ET

https://twitter.com/SportsTVRatings/stat...5752707087

Makes sense. It was 38-7 at halftime which was about 9 ET.

8:00 20.33 Start of telecast.
8:15 21.85 0-0 13:30 Q1
8:30 22.36 10-0 6:51 Q1
8:45 22.18 17-7 15:00 Q2
9:00 20.79 24-7 6:34 Q2
9:15 16.22 31-7 0:36 Q2 (UGA scored another TD before half time)
9:30 15.88 38-7 12:42 Q3
9:45 16.22 45-7 6:05 Q3
10:00 14.95 52-7 12:22 Q4
10:15 13.34 65-7 5:49 Q4 both Bennett and Duggan are out by now.
10:22 65-7 final.
10:30 11.80
10:45 10.30

Assuming the ratings are actually for the 15 minutes following that time (e.g. 9:15 is the rating for 9:15-9:30) then the ratings increased after they actually began playing and held up after TCU held UGA to a FG and then scored.

It dropped off at half-time after UGA scored three TD (I think they had 3 interceptions by then). It never really came back in the second half.

The last two ratings were well after the end of the game.

What is remarkable is the game only lasted 2:22.

(01-10-2023 10:55 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  The real lesson is that the CFB season should end on January 1.

^^This^^

(01-13-2023 01:39 AM)jimrtex Wrote:  What is remarkable is the game only lasted 2:22.

Overheard from the production truck, "Get this **** off the air!"

It's amazing to think the game could be that quick. Then you have CBS out there milking its games anywhere they can. People complain about ESPN for a lot of things...because they have so much live sports content, they have to keep things moving along. I like that about them.

(01-13-2023 01:39 AM)jimrtex Wrote:  What is remarkable is the game only lasted 2:22.

2.5 hours should be the goal for college football IMO.