(01-10-2023 07:30 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  .

Not sure if the polls would ever insert a team ahead of the team that wins the playoff or not. It seems unlikely, but if a #12 seed with 1 or 2 losses were to win the playoff, the #1 seed might well get some first place votes.

Possible, but I doubt it.

With a 12 team playoff you're very unlikely to have an undefeated team who didn't make it in. So while there can be scenarios where 0 undefeated teams remain, there will no longer be scenarios with multiple undefeated teams left. Either there's a sole undefeated champion, or no undefeated teams and someone who won it all. Would be extremely hard to say the winner of the playoffs wasn't the champion and be considered a serious AP voter.

Who voted those guys #2?

(01-10-2023 07:35 PM)e-parade Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 07:30 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  .

Not sure if the polls would ever insert a team ahead of the team that wins the playoff or not. It seems unlikely, but if a #12 seed with 1 or 2 losses were to win the playoff, the #1 seed might well get some first place votes.

Possible, but I doubt it.

...Either there's a sole undefeated champion, or no undefeated teams and someone who won it all. Would be extremely hard to say the winner of the playoffs wasn't the champion and be considered a serious AP voter.

I'm not convinced that the playoff winner would necessarily finish first in the polls every single year, if a low-seeded team wins the playoff.

In the NCAA tournament, in fact, it's possible for a team to win the tournament championship without even being ranked in the AP top 20.

It happened in 1985, when Villanova won the NCAA championship but was not even ranked in the top 20 of the final AP poll.

(01-10-2023 08:29 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Who voted those guys #2?

People who watch college football for a living and saw them earn their way into the final 2 standing.

We don’t have a poll decide who the NFL champion is once the the Super Bowl is played. Having a poll in college football to crown a different champion than the CFP winner just seems like an easy way to undermine any champion that isn’t a school “in the club” or doesn’t come from a privileged conference. There can and should be winners outside the SEC, Big Ten, and Clemson/Florida State.

(01-10-2023 08:30 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 07:35 PM)e-parade Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 07:30 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  .

Not sure if the polls would ever insert a team ahead of the team that wins the playoff or not. It seems unlikely, but if a #12 seed with 1 or 2 losses were to win the playoff, the #1 seed might well get some first place votes.

Possible, but I doubt it.

...Either there's a sole undefeated champion, or no undefeated teams and someone who won it all. Would be extremely hard to say the winner of the playoffs wasn't the champion and be considered a serious AP voter.

I'm not convinced that the playoff winner would necessarily finish first in the polls every single year, if a low-seeded team wins the playoff.

In the NCAA tournament, in fact, it's possible for a team to win the tournament championship without even being ranked in the AP top 20.

It happened in 1985, when Villanova won the NCAA championship but was not even ranked in the top 20 of the final AP poll.

That's because they don't do a poll after the NCAA tournament, it's only the coaches poll that is done after the NCAA Tourney (not like college football where AP does a poll after the bowls).