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RE: There is a way to stop being an always a Tiger
(01-10-2023 01:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 12:25 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 12:19 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  It's a strange time in college athletics.

You could spend 4x the amount of time at Memphis as Derrick Rose (who everyone considers a Tiger) and be labeled by fans as "not a Tiger."

I guess the Tigers in the NFL segment they play during football games won't include folks who transferred out (like Eze and Carter). It'll be sort of weird how college teams will claim how many former players are in the pros.

There is an emotional component at play too. Think of how far D. Rose took the team. That makes a difference.

And yet, unless something has changed, Rose doesn't even say he is from the school, like every other NBA player, in his intros. He says he is from Chicago.

If he never mentions the Tigers, my opinion of him is certainly diminished.
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RE: There is a way to stop being an always a Tiger
(01-10-2023 01:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 12:25 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 12:19 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  It's a strange time in college athletics.

You could spend 4x the amount of time at Memphis as Derrick Rose (who everyone considers a Tiger) and be labeled by fans as "not a Tiger."

I guess the Tigers in the NFL segment they play during football games won't include folks who transferred out (like Eze and Carter). It'll be sort of weird how college teams will claim how many former players are in the pros.

There is an emotional component at play too. Think of how far D. Rose took the team. That makes a difference.

And yet, unless something has changed, Rose doesn't even say he is from the school, like every other NBA player, in his intros. He says he is from Chicago.

I saw a Knick game that he started and he was announced as from Memphis. I think he did the Chicago thing because he was from there but I don’t blame him if he didn’t mention Memphis after those idiots tried to sue him. We got some morons out there
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(01-10-2023 02:26 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I saw a Knick game that he started and he was announced as from Memphis. I think he did the Chicago thing because he was from there but I don’t blame him if he didn’t mention Memphis after those idiots tried to sue him. We got some morons out there

Being announced as from Memphis by a third party and actively stating of your own volition that you're from Memphis are two very different things, wouldn't you say?
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(01-10-2023 02:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:26 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I saw a Knick game that he started and he was announced as from Memphis. I think he did the Chicago thing because he was from there but I don’t blame him if he didn’t mention Memphis after those idiots tried to sue him. We got some morons out there

Being announced as from Memphis by a third party and actively stating of your own volition that you're from Memphis are two very different things, wouldn't you say?

The issue is that he requested to be announced as from Chicago, IL. Now apparently he is being announced as from the University of Memphis.
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(01-10-2023 02:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:26 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I saw a Knick game that he started and he was announced as from Memphis. I think he did the Chicago thing because he was from there but I don’t blame him if he didn’t mention Memphis after those idiots tried to sue him. We got some morons out there

Being announced as from Memphis by a third party and actively stating of your own volition that you're from Memphis are two very different things, wouldn't you say?

I don’t care where he wants to be from. I’m proud to say he got us as far as anyone else did as a player. But I know there are sensitive low self esteem types out there that freak out. He’s a winner. Won here was an mvp, suffered a devastating injury and is still playing. I don’t care what his test scores were or even who took them.
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RE: There is a way to stop being an always a Tiger
(01-10-2023 02:41 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:26 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I saw a Knick game that he started and he was announced as from Memphis. I think he did the Chicago thing because he was from there but I don’t blame him if he didn’t mention Memphis after those idiots tried to sue him. We got some morons out there

Being announced as from Memphis by a third party and actively stating of your own volition that you're from Memphis are two very different things, wouldn't you say?

I don’t care where he wants to be from. I’m proud to say he got us as far as anyone else did as a player. But I know there are sensitive low self esteem types out there that freak out. He’s a winner. Won here was an mvp, suffered a devastating injury and is still playing. I don’t care what his test scores were or even who took them.

It is weird that you think that it is low self esteem to wonder when 9 starters are announced from their university or high school and one (your guy) isn't. It isn't life or death, but it should obviously bother a normal fan at least a little bit.
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(01-10-2023 02:41 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:26 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I saw a Knick game that he started and he was announced as from Memphis. I think he did the Chicago thing because he was from there but I don’t blame him if he didn’t mention Memphis after those idiots tried to sue him. We got some morons out there

Being announced as from Memphis by a third party and actively stating of your own volition that you're from Memphis are two very different things, wouldn't you say?

I don’t care where he wants to be from. I’m proud to say he got us as far as anyone else did as a player. But I know there are sensitive low self esteem types out there that freak out. He’s a winner. Won here was an mvp, suffered a devastating injury and is still playing. I don’t care what his test scores were or even who took them.

That wasn't even remotely close to what was asked, but okay. Not sure who the sensitive, low self-esteem types are that you refer to; but your reply certainly comes across as if you're the one who's being sensitive.
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(01-10-2023 12:19 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  It's a strange time in college athletics.

You could spend 4x the amount of time at Memphis as Derrick Rose (who everyone considers a Tiger) and be labeled by fans as "not a Tiger."

I guess the Tigers in the NFL segment they play during football games won't include folks who transferred out (like Eze and Carter). It'll be sort of weird how college teams will claim how many former players are in the pros.

Where did you leave us to go?
Rose left to be a 1st round draft pick - not to go to Old Miss, UTK, Kansas, or even USC.
Again, I don't blame them for leaving for money.
But you don't get to chase the $ elsewhere, and still get 100% love from Memphis.
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RE: There is a way to stop being an always a Tiger
(01-10-2023 01:35 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 11:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 08:49 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(01-09-2023 06:25 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(01-09-2023 05:27 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  If I was a 20 year old and they offered my 100K SEE YA. And you would too

Good for you, but if you transfer to olemz you become a former Tiger.

You avoided my question. Typical. You know you’d take the money. Just don’t have a guts to admit it

I agree with both of you and Bert. It all depends on where you go and the circumstances.

Any player who was not going to leave, but leaves because they are pushed out is cool. Tyler Harris can be a Tiger after his career, especially as a Memphian, when he is done at USF. IF Harris was not pushed out and didn't leave because of playing time, then he's not always a Tiger.

Nolley will never be. Preistkorn will never be a Tiger for going to Ole Piss. Out of sight, out of mind, I've already forgotten how to spell his name.

Harris is cool, Nolley is not cool, and screw Priestkorn, but at the same time, I don't blame him one bit for taking the money. It's different from Washington (not always a Tiger) for going to USC. It is worst case.

When a player is way down at the end of the bench and leaves, he can be a Tiger or not a Tiger. Who cares?

Washington left for $$$ just like most. He just tried to strongarm the staff into it and they said no.

NIL was just born. The staff probably didn't know how to handle it. In retrospect, maybe they should have figured it out sooner and come up with some $.
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(01-10-2023 01:45 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 12:25 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 12:19 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  It's a strange time in college athletics.

You could spend 4x the amount of time at Memphis as Derrick Rose (who everyone considers a Tiger) and be labeled by fans as "not a Tiger."

I guess the Tigers in the NFL segment they play during football games won't include folks who transferred out (like Eze and Carter). It'll be sort of weird how college teams will claim how many former players are in the pros.

There is an emotional component at play too. Think of how far D. Rose took the team. That makes a difference.

What happens, hypothetically, if Seth plays through getting his degree here at Memphis-- sets all sorts of records-- and then transfers to play a graduate year? Do we claim him if he goes to the pros? Would he hypothetically get on the Tigers in the NFL segment?

With this new landscape, is it the last stop in musical chairs kind of thing? Or where you've left your biggest impact?

I don't think Eze was on the video this year. There's your answer.
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(01-10-2023 02:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:26 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I saw a Knick game that he started and he was announced as from Memphis. I think he did the Chicago thing because he was from there but I don’t blame him if he didn’t mention Memphis after those idiots tried to sue him. We got some morons out there

Being announced as from Memphis by a third party and actively stating of your own volition that you're from Memphis are two very different things, wouldn't you say?

The issue is that he requested to be announced as from Chicago, IL. Now apparently he is being announced as from the University of Memphis.

There were certainly some hard and raw feelings early in his career. I imagine he felt scapegoated and abandoned - although fans never did that to him. But RC and Cal may have.
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(01-10-2023 03:55 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:26 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I saw a Knick game that he started and he was announced as from Memphis. I think he did the Chicago thing because he was from there but I don’t blame him if he didn’t mention Memphis after those idiots tried to sue him. We got some morons out there

Being announced as from Memphis by a third party and actively stating of your own volition that you're from Memphis are two very different things, wouldn't you say?

The issue is that he requested to be announced as from Chicago, IL. Now apparently he is being announced as from the University of Memphis.

There were certainly some hard and raw feelings early in his career. I imagine he felt scapegoated and abandoned - although fans never did that to him. But RC and Cal may have.

In my opinion, Cal would throw his mother under the bus if it made him an extra buck or two (or further tickled his ego.)
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So is TJ Carter and Obinna Eze "Tigers"? Two guys that spent 4 years and graduated from our university, had the opportunity to play Power 5 football and did. And now they have the opportunity to play in the NFL.

So, we're going to bash a guy that came to Memphis as a walk-on player. He's not a 3/4 star player. He's a walk-on that had 0 offers out of High School. He spent 3 years and excelled here. I don't think he could do much better for the Tigers in 2023. He has an opportunity to move to Oxford, have money to raise his family that he probably wouldn't have at Memphis, have a chance to play SEC football for a year and finish his degree. And he if does well in Lane Kiffin/Charlie Weis' system, could play in the NFL. Get over it, it's a player's dream to play in the SEC. He's going to be in the best conference, with the best teams, and has the chance to showcase his talent.

And the funny thing is, we're just going to bash this walk on player from Michigan, because he transferred to...Ole Miss? Seems harsh that this fanbase still hold some grudges against people because they transferred to a school that y'all may not like.
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I know we live in a hyperbolic world of extemes, but there's a big difference in bashing and persona non grata. Pretty much everyone has said, go get the money if you need/want it and it is a big gap. It's just a matter of whether he's applauded when he comes back to town or not.

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(01-09-2023 06:32 PM)fsquid Wrote:  I don't blame him, he's not going to be a pro so take the money now

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If he continues to play the way he did for us last season, he very well may be playing on Sundays
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(01-09-2023 06:43 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
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(01-09-2023 06:23 PM)Keeper Wrote:  IMO there are only a few places a Tiger could go and become a former Tiger. Ole Ms is one of them.

I still view Tyler Harris as a former Tiger and now cheer for the Bulls when they're not playing us.

once tyler is done with college he will be an always a Tiger again. He didn't transfer to olemz or ewt or arkysaw or looserville.

Yeah, plus the situations are a bit different. Preskorn was going to be a prominent starter/scorer. Tyler was being down-graded. I totally get moving to a new school in search of a starter position. Preee-scorne already had that.
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(01-10-2023 05:03 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  ..... funny thing is, we're just going to bash this walk on player from Michigan, because he transferred to...Ole Miss? Seems harsh that this fanbase still hold some grudges against people because they transferred to a school that y'all may not like.

Oh... we now see what YOU are. You are NAKED, SIR!!!!! EXPOSED!!!!
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(01-11-2023 12:27 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-09-2023 06:43 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(01-09-2023 06:26 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-09-2023 06:23 PM)Keeper Wrote:  IMO there are only a few places a Tiger could go and become a former Tiger. Ole Ms is one of them.

I still view Tyler Harris as a former Tiger and now cheer for the Bulls when they're not playing us.

once tyler is done with college he will be an always a Tiger again. He didn't transfer to olemz or ewt or arkysaw or looserville.

Yeah, plus the situations are a bit different. Preskorn was going to be a prominent starter/scorer. Tyler was being down-graded. I totally get moving to a new school in search of a starter position. Preee-scorne already had that.

I agree regarding Harris. From the rumors and his own tweets, it's pretty straightforward to assume he was pushed out. If it were up to him, I'm sure he'd be in Tiger blue this year. At the very least he has the opportunity to be a cornerstone for a team to close out his college career.

With Prieskorn, fans may not like it, but it's ultimately a job. I understand being unhappy he left, but most people would have done the same if the pay was that much better. He might blow out his knee next season and never play at the same level again, so he has to get what he can while he's healthy.
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The WHO -Tyler Harris apparently was a disruption in the locker room and was pushed out for that reason.....finish your college career as a TIGER and you are always a TIGER-----otherwise PREY/EX-TIGER/WHO..............again just like EX-wife---EX-son-in-law---EX-daughter-in-law---EX-boss---EX-cop....etc etc
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(01-11-2023 02:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  The WHO -Tyler Harris apparently was a disruption in the locker room and was pushed out for that reason.....finish your college career as a TIGER and you are always a TIGER-----otherwise PREY/EX-TIGER/WHO..............again just like EX-wife---EX-son-in-law---EX-daughter-in-law---EX-boss---EX-cop....etc etc

More incoherent crazy talk, as if you know how and why things worked out the way they did.
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