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RE: Realistic options for Pac-12 going forward.
(01-25-2023 11:14 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 11:26 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 08:30 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 05:54 AM)XLance Wrote:  The PAC on the other hand is still searching for a financier or anybody to sell content to.
The PAC now has four major problems 1) a population that is more inclined to follow pro sports than college and 2) the loss of the biggest single market in their entire footprint, 3) compatibility issues with the only other conference that they abut, 4) limited windows in which to be able to sell their content to other markets.

And it has me scratching my head why the 5 primary western conferences don’t work together in some way to reinvigorate western collegiate sports.

Why look for answers from the east. They’d rather pluck a couple/few, whereas, those couple/few schools will be at a disadvantage compared to the main eastern bloc(s) of the conference(s). They will be on an island, especially their non-football sports. I can’t wait until inflation and wild spending catches up with USCLA’s big tv pay increase. When that point happens, look for those two to fall even further and struggle mightily. Then they’d own BigTen large exit fees. Smart BigTen.

Nobody wants to work with the perceived “lower” conference. It looks desperate in a society that demands it’s better to spit on the perceived lower classes than work with them.

Yeah, who wants $75m when you can instead make $50m? Not me, I'd rather subsidize schools that don't prioritize or often even care about football.

Right. So pac12 members need to realize there is no eastern savior conference. And the only way to maximize 80 million western state’s population, is to work exclusively with all western schools. Even Big West and Big Sky.

No! Not saying equal pay between the 5 western conferences, LOL. I’m saying if fans from MW or BigSky see Pac10’s success on field/court helps their school’s conference even a little bit, and vice versa, then create a working alliance that makes it happen.

So pac tv value goes from $25mm to $40mm because fans of 4 other conferences are part of the alliance.

MW from $4mm to $8mm

Big West/Big Sky from nothing to a little something.

WCC the same increase proportionately.

Problem is those fan bases are smaller and don't increase it proportionately. They already schedule those schools a lot, so I don't know how much more they can do.
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RE: Realistic options for Pac-12 going forward.
(01-25-2023 12:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 11:14 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 11:26 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 08:30 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 05:54 AM)XLance Wrote:  The PAC on the other hand is still searching for a financier or anybody to sell content to.
The PAC now has four major problems 1) a population that is more inclined to follow pro sports than college and 2) the loss of the biggest single market in their entire footprint, 3) compatibility issues with the only other conference that they abut, 4) limited windows in which to be able to sell their content to other markets.

And it has me scratching my head why the 5 primary western conferences don’t work together in some way to reinvigorate western collegiate sports.

Why look for answers from the east. They’d rather pluck a couple/few, whereas, those couple/few schools will be at a disadvantage compared to the main eastern bloc(s) of the conference(s). They will be on an island, especially their non-football sports. I can’t wait until inflation and wild spending catches up with USCLA’s big tv pay increase. When that point happens, look for those two to fall even further and struggle mightily. Then they’d own BigTen large exit fees. Smart BigTen.

Nobody wants to work with the perceived “lower” conference. It looks desperate in a society that demands it’s better to spit on the perceived lower classes than work with them.

Yeah, who wants $75m when you can instead make $50m? Not me, I'd rather subsidize schools that don't prioritize or often even care about football.

Right. So pac12 members need to realize there is no eastern savior conference. And the only way to maximize 80 million western state’s population, is to work exclusively with all western schools. Even Big West and Big Sky.

No! Not saying equal pay between the 5 western conferences, LOL. I’m saying if fans from MW or BigSky see Pac10’s success on field/court helps their school’s conference even a little bit, and vice versa, then create a working alliance that makes it happen.

So pac tv value goes from $25mm to $40mm because fans of 4 other conferences are part of the alliance.

MW from $4mm to $8mm

Big West/Big Sky from nothing to a little something.

WCC the same increase proportionately.

Problem is those fan bases are smaller and don't increase it proportionately. They already schedule those schools a lot, so I don't know how much more they can do.

80 million people in the western states. Add up the small fan bases and instead of $28mm, pac schools get $33mm. I’ll bet with the right marketing of a Collegiate Western Athletic Alliance, all alum from all the schools might become interested again. This might in turn curb the bleeding of western high school recruits going to eastern schools.

I’m saying every little thing counts and 1000 ants can do more than 1 idk what. (LOL, you know where I was going with that).

The western conferences have the same unique problems, regardless of school size. Time they realize that and take back control of their own common situation instead of letting eastern power grabbers do the deciding.
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RE: Realistic options for Pac-12 going forward.
(01-25-2023 12:40 PM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 12:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 11:14 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 11:26 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 08:30 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  And it has me scratching my head why the 5 primary western conferences don’t work together in some way to reinvigorate western collegiate sports.

Why look for answers from the east. They’d rather pluck a couple/few, whereas, those couple/few schools will be at a disadvantage compared to the main eastern bloc(s) of the conference(s). They will be on an island, especially their non-football sports. I can’t wait until inflation and wild spending catches up with USCLA’s big tv pay increase. When that point happens, look for those two to fall even further and struggle mightily. Then they’d own BigTen large exit fees. Smart BigTen.

Nobody wants to work with the perceived “lower” conference. It looks desperate in a society that demands it’s better to spit on the perceived lower classes than work with them.

Yeah, who wants $75m when you can instead make $50m? Not me, I'd rather subsidize schools that don't prioritize or often even care about football.

Right. So pac12 members need to realize there is no eastern savior conference. And the only way to maximize 80 million western state’s population, is to work exclusively with all western schools. Even Big West and Big Sky.

No! Not saying equal pay between the 5 western conferences, LOL. I’m saying if fans from MW or BigSky see Pac10’s success on field/court helps their school’s conference even a little bit, and vice versa, then create a working alliance that makes it happen.

So pac tv value goes from $25mm to $40mm because fans of 4 other conferences are part of the alliance.

MW from $4mm to $8mm

Big West/Big Sky from nothing to a little something.

WCC the same increase proportionately.

Problem is those fan bases are smaller and don't increase it proportionately. They already schedule those schools a lot, so I don't know how much more they can do.

80 million people in the western states. Add up the small fan bases and instead of $28mm, pac schools get $33mm. I’ll bet with the right marketing of a Collegiate Western Athletic Alliance, all alum from all the schools might become interested again. This might in turn curb the bleeding of western high school recruits going to eastern schools.

I’m saying every little thing counts and 1000 ants can do more than 1 idk what. (LOL, you know where I was going with that).

The western conferences have the same unique problems, regardless of school size. Time they realize that and take back control of their own common situation instead of letting eastern power grabbers do the deciding.

The small fan bases of MWC, WAC, and Big Sky teams are not going to help the PAC 12 earn more money.

254M population in the Eastern and Central time zones, most of whom are sleeping or at least not watching college football during most of Pacific primetime. That's why USC and UCLA are headed to the Big Ten. And, the PAC 12 will never keep up without them.
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RE: Realistic options for Pac-12 going forward.
(01-25-2023 12:40 PM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 12:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 11:14 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 11:26 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(01-24-2023 08:30 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  And it has me scratching my head why the 5 primary western conferences don’t work together in some way to reinvigorate western collegiate sports.

Why look for answers from the east. They’d rather pluck a couple/few, whereas, those couple/few schools will be at a disadvantage compared to the main eastern bloc(s) of the conference(s). They will be on an island, especially their non-football sports. I can’t wait until inflation and wild spending catches up with USCLA’s big tv pay increase. When that point happens, look for those two to fall even further and struggle mightily. Then they’d own BigTen large exit fees. Smart BigTen.

Nobody wants to work with the perceived “lower” conference. It looks desperate in a society that demands it’s better to spit on the perceived lower classes than work with them.

Yeah, who wants $75m when you can instead make $50m? Not me, I'd rather subsidize schools that don't prioritize or often even care about football.

Right. So pac12 members need to realize there is no eastern savior conference. And the only way to maximize 80 million western state’s population, is to work exclusively with all western schools. Even Big West and Big Sky.

No! Not saying equal pay between the 5 western conferences, LOL. I’m saying if fans from MW or BigSky see Pac10’s success on field/court helps their school’s conference even a little bit, and vice versa, then create a working alliance that makes it happen.

So pac tv value goes from $25mm to $40mm because fans of 4 other conferences are part of the alliance.

MW from $4mm to $8mm

Big West/Big Sky from nothing to a little something.

WCC the same increase proportionately.

Problem is those fan bases are smaller and don't increase it proportionately. They already schedule those schools a lot, so I don't know how much more they can do.

80 million people in the western states. Add up the small fan bases and instead of $28mm, pac schools get $33mm. I’ll bet with the right marketing of a Collegiate Western Athletic Alliance, all alum from all the schools might become interested again. This might in turn curb the bleeding of western high school recruits going to eastern schools.

I’m saying every little thing counts and 1000 ants can do more than 1 idk what. (LOL, you know where I was going with that).

The western conferences have the same unique problems, regardless of school size. Time they realize that and take back control of their own common situation instead of letting eastern power grabbers do the deciding.

The thing is, I don't think I can make people care about something they just aren't interested in. For example, the greater San Francisco metro area has almost as many people as the entire state of Alabama and a bit more than the state of Louisiana. But of course Alabama and Louisiana are titanic college football states and always have been, and San Francisco is next to nothing.

I don't see that changing any time soon.
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2023 02:00 PM by quo vadis.)
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