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(12-31-2022 01:09 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  Many of the bourbons mentioned I have tried and like. There are three more I would recommend:

Angel's Envy
George Dickel 8 Year Old Bourbon
Elijah Craig Bourbon - Small Batch

If you are having trouble finding a specific bourbon, try ordering online. The links I provided go to the Nestor Liqour site. I have ordered from them with satisfactory results. As I remember, in the past, if a minimum order is placed they cover shipping.

That right there is a near-perfect list. A few that I'd add:

Four Roses Small Batch
Bulleit 95 for Old Fashioneds (if we choose bourbon over rye)
Michter's (I believe Rath mentioned this)
Blanton's if you want to spend a bit more
 
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Since we have this thread going, thought I'd look for some advice. I'm bringing a group of newbies (albeit solid bourbon drinkers) from Oregon back to the motherland in April. We're heading out from Cincy early on a Thursday, hitting two or three distilleries in the Louisville/ Bardstown area, then settling in somewhere down there for the night. Doing Frankfort area and working our way back to town on Friday. I'm on the spot for the creating the itinerary for the crew of 10 or so and would love advice. Best experiences or tours? Great restaurants/ places to stay? Feel free to include Cincinnati/ Northern Kentucky as well. High brow and low brow suggestions welcome. We'll be staying in OTR.
 
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May not be my favorite boubon but it's my favorite distillery tour.

Woodford Reserve. It's a must hit on the bourbon trail.
 
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The guide at four roses gave the best presentation and i believe you got to keep a pretty nice tasting glass after the tour was done. Did a day trip and stayed in Lexington. Hit Woodford, Makers Mark, and Four roses. Drank kentucky mules all day. Was a pretty nice day trip.
 
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(12-31-2022 09:19 AM)namrag Wrote:  
(12-31-2022 08:30 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  So while we're back on the subject, any of you ever do the Bourbon Trail in Kentucky? It's kind of on my list for a long weekend visit and I'm wondering if you recommend visiting particular distilleries, towns, hotels, or dining establishments as part of the experience. My wife isn't a bourbon drinker but I hear the Trail offers some great Americana to experience in small towns along the way.

Spend a night in Bardstown.
Go to the Old Talbott Tavern for dinner.
Go in the summertime and see the outdoor drama, My Old Kentucky Home: The Stephen Foster Story.

Spend a night in Louisville at the Brown Hotel, and get a Hot Brown.
While in Louisville go to the 8Up rooftop bar in the evening.

We visited Makers Mark, Buffalo Trace, and Woodford.

Of those three my opinion is that Buffalo and Makers have the best experience.

There is also the Bourbon Burn rode bike tour.
I did it this past fall.
It is a 3-day event at the Kentucky Horse Park, and each day you ride different routes that have stops at various distilleries.
There were some people on e-bikes for those that don’t like or can’t ride long distances.

Great tour tips--thanks. I haven't been to My Old Kentucky Home since I was a kid so a return to Bardstown sounds like a good spot for an overnight on that itinerary.
 
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Infinity bottle.

Got one as a gift today. Take a mostly empty bottle of really great bourbon...steel wool off all of the labels on the bottle. Put one shot of every nice bourbon you buy into the bottle and keep it going.

Complex and lovely.
 
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(12-31-2022 02:02 PM)geef Wrote:  
(12-31-2022 01:09 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  Many of the bourbons mentioned I have tried and like. There are three more I would recommend:

Angel's Envy
George Dickel 8 Year Old Bourbon
Elijah Craig Bourbon - Small Batch

If you are having trouble finding a specific bourbon, try ordering online. The links I provided go to the Nestor Liqour site. I have ordered from them with satisfactory results. As I remember, in the past, if a minimum order is placed they cover shipping.

That right there is a near-perfect list. A few that I'd add:

Four Roses Small Batch
Bulleit 95 for Old Fashioneds (if we choose bourbon over rye)
Michter's (I believe Rath mentioned this)
Blanton's if you want to spend a bit more

There's one more I forgot about. Eagle Rare is made by the same distillery that makes Buffalo Trace. It's more expensive but significantly better that Buffalo Trace and I've only found it online.

Here is a combo pack from that distillery that includes Sazerac Rye wiskey that is also good.
 
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(12-22-2022 02:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm locking down with a bottle of Blantons and one of Angels Emvy until they dig us out or we go all Donner Party.



 
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(12-22-2022 02:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm locking down with a bottle of Blantons and one of Angels Emvy until they dig us out or we go all Donner Party.




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(12-20-2022 10:13 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(12-20-2022 12:41 AM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  Want bad hang over and destroy your body at same time drink any of the above. Want a nice easy drink with little hangover the next day. Stick to Vodka/Tequila even if it’s not the cool thing at the moment.

I do enjoy a whiskey or bourbon but reserve it to strictly holidays.

Anywho, this isn’t a thread for me so carry on as it’s been the craze in the area for 15ish years now.

Alcohol fads are kind of interesting...

Read a fascinating piece on how Jägermeister got popular. This kid, who grew up in a family of marketers and distributors was told that he needed to find his own product to make his own; the family business would back him up, but he needed to find something of his own to do. So he was jonesing around in Cleveland, looking for something and he went to a neighborhood bar where these little old men were drinking this syrupy drink in the middle of the afternoon. The bartender told him it was a German alcohol called "Jägermeister" but that nobody but little old men drank it. It was cheap, it was foreign...

So this kid gets the idea to market it to college students. His thought: "You drank beer in high school, here's this 'exotic' drink you can get now that you're all grown up." So he markets it on campuses and it blows up; this little-known brand that maybe your grand-father or great uncle drank...now it's "yours." The product went nuts for five-or-six years.

But the kid...he's not a "kid" anymore...sees a problem. Your "College Days" really only go so far, and now his demographic is aging out. So he starts looking around for another product that is cheap, plentiful, and can be the "next link" in the "maturity" chain. He looks at Gin, but gin is a little too "mature." He looks at Whiskey, but Whisky drinkers are really a well-defined sub-culture and they get bent out of shape when their product starts getting too widely marketed. Plus Whisky is expensive. He settles on Vodka: it's cheap and plentiful, it's "foreign," and people have been using it as an ingredient in all sorts of drinks for years. But drinking straight Vodka...well, that's something "only Russians" do. So he starts marketing Vodka to the now 30-somethings: "You drank beer in high school with your buds, you drank Jägermeister when you were in college, but NOW that you're really grown-up and really mature, you don't "drink" those things...you drink Vodka." And suddenly Vodka is the thing, and cheap Vodka is suddenly expensive and there's all these fancy labels and cool looking bottles.

The thing is that you're paying for the label and the bottle. The "high end," "thrice-distilled" Vodka you pay $60/bottle for is basically THE SAME Vodka you get out of the plastic bottle. It's really all about the perception of the thing.

Add to that the American...uh...cultural mob-mentality: When Covid first blossomed on the scene, you literally had people dumping crates of Corona Beer because of the name: Corona. (There's another fad...) When Russia invaded the Ukraine this spring, you had people smashing crates of Vodka...even though most Vodka is either domestically produced or Scandinavian in origin. The American consumer is...well...dumb.

So you have Dan Ackroyd put his name on a bottle of Tequila and people will get it...because. Or you put it in a funky bottle shaped like a skull...

And don't get me wrong: I like Tequila. Good Tequila is a thing of beauty. Same with Scotch. But I think it's really about finding something YOU like, not something that is "the fad." Because "the fad" isn't about the consumer, it's about the marketer.

Bourbon is kind of "a thing" right now. I know in my part of PA, where "Microbreweries" used to be the rage, now all sorts of "Micro-distilleries" are opening.

Find what you like and what fits your budget...and enjoy!

My brother owns a family-style restaurant in NKY, and started selling bourbon to help get him thru the pandemic. People came in off the highway and walked out with five figures worth of the stuff. I noticed his web site now advertises that his restaurant carries 150 bourbons.

Last year, a friend from California wanted to fly in and have me escort her and her bourbon aficionado friend to the bourbon festival in Bardstown.

I know someone else who routinely stands in line early morning to get choice bourbons so she can resell it…

All anecdotal, but consistent with the idea that bourbon has become a fad.
 
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I try to avoid bourbon when out at a restaurant, because the markup is ungodly.

That said, I just picked up a bottle of Woodford Reserve and a bottle of Blade and Bow for in home sipping. The stuff goes pretty fast during the second half of UC Big 12 basketball games.
 
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(02-05-2024 03:52 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I try to avoid bourbon when out at a restaurant, because the markup is ungodly.

That said, I just picked up a bottle of Woodford Reserve and a bottle of Blade and Bow for in home sipping. The stuff goes pretty fast during the second half of UC Big 12 basketball games.

Ok, it’s the second half of UC basketball…are you sipping or swigging ?
 
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My brother owns a family-style restaurant in NKY, and started selling bourbon to help get him thru the pandemic. People came in off the highway and walked out with five figures worth of the stuff. I noticed his web site now advertises that his restaurant carries 150 bourbons.

Last year, a friend from California wanted to fly in and have me escort her and her bourbon aficionado friend to the bourbon festival in Bardstown.

I know someone else who routinely stands in line early morning to get choice bourbons so she can resell it…



All anecdotal, but consistent with the idea that bourbon has become a fad.


Are you talking about Buffalo Bobs off of Mt Zion in Florence. From what I understand, the owner carries a great selection of KY Bourbon brands. The food is pretty good too.

If you're wanting to take a road trip, I would suggest the Woodford Castle in Lexington. It's very close to Keeneland race track. If you're a fan of the horses, a stop at Keeneland is always a great time.
 
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So, I continue to stay with top shelf bourbon. IMO, it's worth the extra money. I've tried different makes/distillers over the past several years but pretty much stay with a small batch or single barrel for flavor/quality. Russell's Reserve Single Barrel is my go to right now. If you haven't yet, try Cincinnati Distilling Single Barrel - damn fine stuff for 120 proof. I wish I could find it down here in Carolina.

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I find the Cincinnati Bourbon to be good, though not quite as smooth as what I usually drink.

Still I go with it every so often.
 
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(02-04-2024 10:47 PM)eroc Wrote:  Anyone ever try Wisemans?

https://kentuckyowlbourbon.com/shop/the-...on-whiskey

Don't bother with Wisemans. Not worth the price and you can probably find a good comparable brand for less.
 
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