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RE: ARMY Struggles To Be FBS Independent
(12-12-2022 05:09 PM)jacksfan29! Wrote:  
(12-12-2022 03:55 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(12-12-2022 09:12 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-12-2022 08:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-12-2022 03:25 AM)Mav Wrote:  Navy's issues go well beyond conferences at this point. Being legally prohibited from NIL and having unique admissions standards puts them at a pretty harsh disadvantage. Niumatalolo's last interview before getting the boot doesn't seem to give off a whole lot of confidence in the future of service academy football at the FBS level.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-landscape

I thought his comments were kind of along the lines of excuse-making. I mean, since when has Navy recruited players who were in line to receive NIL or were concerned about the transfer portal? You join the Naval (or Army or AFA) Academy to be a military officer, not play football.
Meh. He was answering the questions asked.
The storyline was along the lines of the 2014 article BruceMcF pulled earlier in this thread -- toughest jobs in college football.

It isn't new.

Niumat's most frequently quoted quote over 15 years as a head coach is "Winning football games is hard. It's even harder at a service academy." (I actually always hear him in my mind saying "freakin' hard" strong language for the devout man.)

And, yes, NIL and transfer portal widen the gap between service academies and other programs. We certainly have losses, we always have, because the academies aren't for everyone, especially not if you get good film freshman and sophomore years and think you have NFL potential. And the transfer portal makes it even easier for these guys to leave. Johnny Hodges at TCU this year. Alohi Gilman at Notre Dame and now in the League. And obviously it's one way.
NIL - maybe that's minimal effect, but it isn't just the bluebloods - the coaches' quotes in the article say even the lower level FBS or FCS schools we're recruiting against can offer greater than the zero that we do.

Article seemed clear neither Niumat nor Monken were looking for sympathy.
These are all facts. It is what it is. Things can be reasons without making excuses.

The value of a Service Academy education far exceeds the value of one from Tennessee Tech. How do you put a price on that? I'm not sure, but I will say that anybody who's both Athletically and Academically gifted-enough to get into an Academy is going to recognize that. There won't be many transfers, if any, due to NIL.

My son is in the process of seeking a nomination to West Point, getting in is a big freaking deal, athlete or not. Reality, if you look at future earnings rankings, all three Academies are in the top 10 of schools nationwide.

Would be surprised in the Air Force Academy is in the top 10.
12-12-2022 09:28 PM
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RE: ARMY Struggles To Be FBS Independent
(12-12-2022 05:09 PM)jacksfan29! Wrote:  
(12-12-2022 03:55 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(12-12-2022 09:12 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-12-2022 08:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-12-2022 03:25 AM)Mav Wrote:  Navy's issues go well beyond conferences at this point. Being legally prohibited from NIL and having unique admissions standards puts them at a pretty harsh disadvantage. Niumatalolo's last interview before getting the boot doesn't seem to give off a whole lot of confidence in the future of service academy football at the FBS level.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-landscape

I thought his comments were kind of along the lines of excuse-making. I mean, since when has Navy recruited players who were in line to receive NIL or were concerned about the transfer portal? You join the Naval (or Army or AFA) Academy to be a military officer, not play football.
Meh. He was answering the questions asked.
The storyline was along the lines of the 2014 article BruceMcF pulled earlier in this thread -- toughest jobs in college football.

It isn't new.

Niumat's most frequently quoted quote over 15 years as a head coach is "Winning football games is hard. It's even harder at a service academy." (I actually always hear him in my mind saying "freakin' hard" strong language for the devout man.)

And, yes, NIL and transfer portal widen the gap between service academies and other programs. We certainly have losses, we always have, because the academies aren't for everyone, especially not if you get good film freshman and sophomore years and think you have NFL potential. And the transfer portal makes it even easier for these guys to leave. Johnny Hodges at TCU this year. Alohi Gilman at Notre Dame and now in the League. And obviously it's one way.
NIL - maybe that's minimal effect, but it isn't just the bluebloods - the coaches' quotes in the article say even the lower level FBS or FCS schools we're recruiting against can offer greater than the zero that we do.

Article seemed clear neither Niumat nor Monken were looking for sympathy.
These are all facts. It is what it is. Things can be reasons without making excuses.

The value of a Service Academy education far exceeds the value of one from Tennessee Tech. How do you put a price on that? I'm not sure, but I will say that anybody who's both Athletically and Academically gifted-enough to get into an Academy is going to recognize that. There won't be many transfers, if any, due to NIL.

My son is in the process of seeking a nomination to West Point, getting in is a big freaking deal, athlete or not. Reality, if you look at future earnings rankings, all three Academies are in the top 10 of schools nationwide.


Looked it up
Early carreer
Merchant Marine Academy and West Point are the only ones in the top 10.
Mid Career
Naval Academy and West Point are in the top 10

Needless to say all including the Coast Guard Academy are extremely good choices.
12-12-2022 09:33 PM
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