I believe the hate for liberty comes from the fact that Falwell and liberty were born from televangelism. There is and are a lot of hypocrisy in the accumulation of money from little ole ladies social security.

(08-06-2023 06:14 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  Let's not go dpwn that path, please. It is not tough to Google.

The university is in the process of making some changes. But it will take awhile to distance from the stigma of the past in many eyes.

It is when you have to use proper spelling and grammar to make an effective query.

Sorry, couldn't help that one. lol

(08-06-2023 06:02 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(08-06-2023 05:09 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  I’m no fan of the Falwell family but I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other about Liberty. If they come in and dominate the league every year I may start hating them because they are the Goliath but I won’t hate them on a personal level. Our big rival is going to be CUSA.

FWIW, I’m a politically moderate Methodist and don’t really know any Liberty grads.

What did the Falwell family do? And why LU receive so much hate?

(08-06-2023 07:30 PM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  I believe the hate for liberty comes from the fact that Falwell and liberty were born from televangelism. There is and are a lot of hypocrisy in the accumulation of money from little ole ladies social security.

Wait, I thought we got our money from being a "diploma mill?" Now you're telling me we got it from scamming little old ladies. I can't keep up here. I'll definitely give you points for that one. Touché my friend, touché!

(08-05-2023 09:13 PM)justjim Wrote:  I'm a Liberty Fan. I am happy the Flames are in CUSA. I really hope these 9 schools (10 next year) can hold together. It's going to be great basketball and I think football has much more potential than people realize. My plan is to get YouTubeTV so I can get CBSSN and ESPNU and watch a lot of CUSA football. I'm hoping the CUSA teams win a lot of their non conference games. That:s what will help the conference more than anything. I think the current CUSA has a lot of potential.

I cut the cord and went with YoutubeTV a few months ago. I love it.

(08-07-2023 10:25 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  "...college sports is about to learn, if it hasn't already, that when you've sacrificed EVERYTHING at the altar of Money, you no longer control where things go, and you might not like where it ends. The Big Brands will be fine, but a lot of fans will be left behind, and this isn't the end of it."

One quote from a GREAT story today in THE ATHLETIC by Chris Vannini.

It may or may not be behind a pay wall. Please read if you can--a fantastic overall look at things!

Title- "Vannini: College sports may not like what lies at the end of the path paved with TV money"

(08-07-2023 08:04 AM)3DogNight Wrote:  

(08-06-2023 07:30 PM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  I believe the hate for liberty comes from the fact that Falwell and liberty were born from televangelism. There is and are a lot of hypocrisy in the accumulation of money from little ole ladies social security.

Wait, I thought we got our money from being a "diploma mill?" Now you're telling me we got it from scamming little old ladies. I can't keep up here. I'll definitely give you points for that one. Touché my friend, touché!

Diploma mill is what’s continuing the revenue streams today. Scamming old ladies was what got the school started. Just to clarify lol.

Liberty is into traditional marriage, can you believe it. Alphabet army hates on them

(08-06-2023 06:02 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(08-06-2023 05:09 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  I’m no fan of the Falwell family but I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other about Liberty. If they come in and dominate the league every year I may start hating them because they are the Goliath but I won’t hate them on a personal level. Our big rival is going to be CUSA.

FWIW, I’m a politically moderate Methodist and don’t really know any Liberty grads.

What did the Falwell family do? And why LU receive so much hate?

Falwell Sr. made some controversial statements in the past, but he has since passed away. However, his son, Falwell Jr., was widely regarded as even worse in many aspects. It seems like the entire school was influenced by Jr.'s ideologies, which I believe were detrimental to the university and overly political. Additionally, there were rumors of him struggling with alcoholism towards the end. Unfortunately, that's not the only issue. It came to light that Jr. had a questionable relationship involving his wife and a pool boy, whom they had invested money in using questionable methods. Once this scandal was exposed, Jr. was fired, marking the end of the Falwell era. Interestingly, many alumni who now claim to have disliked him actually supported him until his downfall. It's important to have open discussions about these matters and address them honestly. It's possible that my opinion might be in the minority, but it's crucial to shed light on these issues for the sake of transparency and growth.

(08-07-2023 12:52 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(08-07-2023 08:04 AM)3DogNight Wrote:  

(08-06-2023 07:30 PM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  I believe the hate for liberty comes from the fact that Falwell and liberty were born from televangelism. There is and are a lot of hypocrisy in the accumulation of money from little ole ladies social security.

Wait, I thought we got our money from being a "diploma mill?" Now you're telling me we got it from scamming little old ladies. I can't keep up here. I'll definitely give you points for that one. Touché my friend, touché!

Diploma mill is what’s continuing the revenue streams today. Scamming old ladies was what got the school started. Just to clarify lol.

Oh, okay. Thanks for bringing me up to speed. I’m going to have to make myself some cheat sheets on post-it notes to keep up with this stuff. lol

(08-07-2023 01:15 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  Liberty is into traditional marriage, can you believe it. Alphabet army hates on them

What!!!! You’re telling me that a Christian school is into traditional marriage! There’s no wonder people hate Liberty. It’s all beginning to make sense now. I think I’m going to have to go lie down for a little while.

(07-30-2023 10:48 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  "Love the one you're with"

---Stephen Stills, #14 hit, 1971

That's only if you're "down and confused
And you don't remember who you're talkin' to"

I think Kennesaw is going to do very well in time after we get there. Going to be fun!