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If the authorities are not immediately looking at any Duke employees that have been recently fired or disciplined they are not doing much of a job. This sounds like an inside job by someone that knew exactly what to damage to cause this.
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No history of people cutting power out in this small town

Conservatives have been protesting drag shows for the past year

Drag show is hosted

Group of conservatives protest 18+ drag show for some reason

Obvious intentional destruction of power substations while drag show is going on

Conservatives: "HOW COULD LIBS THINK THIS IS CONNECTED! FAKE NEWS! THEY WANT TO PAINT US AS TERRORISTS WHEN ITS THEM!"
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(12-05-2022 08:20 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  No history of people cutting power out in this small town

Conservatives have been protesting drag shows for the past year

Drag show is hosted

Group of conservatives protest 18+ drag show for some reason

Obvious intentional destruction of power substations while drag show is going on

Conservatives: "HOW COULD LIBS THINK THIS IS CONNECTED! FAKE NEWS! THEY WANT TO PAINT US AS TERRORISTS WHEN ITS THEM!"

There is no "history of people cutting power out" in any town. There is no "history of drag shows" being shut down anywhere. This "drag show" thing is literally a made up narrative with no proof what so ever---its like a resident claiming it was done to stop he and his family from watching Yellowstone. If one wanted to shut down the power to a singe event, there are much easier ways to do it. Honestly, I think this may have been a test run for something much more ominous. ISIS? Russia? Iran? Antifa? Who knows? With the southern border open to pretty much any Tom Dick or Terrorist who can walk---it literally could be anyone from anywhere in the world.
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They never did find who did the one in California 10 years ago.
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(12-05-2022 09:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Honestly, I think this may have been a test run for something much more ominous. ISIS? Russia? Iran? Antifa? Who knows? With the southern border open to pretty much any Tom Dick or Terrorist who can walk---it literally could be anyone from anywhere in the world.

Also the first thing Patriots will do if a civil war starts.
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(12-05-2022 09:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 08:20 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  No history of people cutting power out in this small town

Conservatives have been protesting drag shows for the past year

Drag show is hosted

Group of conservatives protest 18+ drag show for some reason

Obvious intentional destruction of power substations while drag show is going on

Conservatives: "HOW COULD LIBS THINK THIS IS CONNECTED! FAKE NEWS! THEY WANT TO PAINT US AS TERRORISTS WHEN ITS THEM!"

There is no "history of people cutting power out" in any town. There is no "history of drag shows" being shut down anywhere. This "drag show" thing is literally a made up narrative with no proof what so ever---its like a resident claiming it was done to stop he and his family from watching Yellowstone. If one wanted to shut down the power to a singe event, there are much easier ways to do it. Honestly, I think this may have been a test run for something much more ominous. ISIS? Russia? Iran? Antifa? Who knows? With the southern border open to pretty much any Tom Dick or Terrorist who can walk---it literally could be anyone from anywhere in the world.

in the land of soft targets, which version of hardware has the easiest access for disruption...

it's easily plausible this was a 'test run' ... there's also a shite tonnage of other plausible reasons...

this country has set itself up for 'rogue intervention' ... and it doesn't get better moving forward....

welcome to the last developed land mass with resources and value (big ol' cookie jar that many want from the outside)....

lmao at the Yellowstone ref ... that was pretty funny as I'm watching s4e2 (where Rip is ripping the later-be-announced 'ailed' young buck a new arsehole with Beth crackin' her whip and Rip's 'father figure burning in his heart' right now) ... yeah, cancel #SheridanLivesMatter is embedded in their being...

@lifelessons
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On NBC National last night they threw out the Drag Queen theory too. I don't care which side you are on, that is gaslighting reporting.

I believe the quote was along the lines of .... "The FBI is looking into multiple possible motives including a protest of a Drag Show" which also directs blame to a right leaning person. Why single that out with ZERO verification other than some whack-job hearsay statement. It is irresponsible.


It actually makes me want to root for some climate non-binary Liz Warren supporter to be the responsible party now just to say I told you so. I hate feeling that way, but FFS when the media pits everyone against everyone you have to defend yourself.
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RE: State of Emergency Effective in Moore County, NC After Power Substations Attacked by
(12-06-2022 10:29 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 09:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 08:20 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  No history of people cutting power out in this small town

Conservatives have been protesting drag shows for the past year

Drag show is hosted

Group of conservatives protest 18+ drag show for some reason

Obvious intentional destruction of power substations while drag show is going on

Conservatives: "HOW COULD LIBS THINK THIS IS CONNECTED! FAKE NEWS! THEY WANT TO PAINT US AS TERRORISTS WHEN ITS THEM!"

There is no "history of people cutting power out" in any town. There is no "history of drag shows" being shut down anywhere. This "drag show" thing is literally a made up narrative with no proof what so ever---its like a resident claiming it was done to stop he and his family from watching Yellowstone. If one wanted to shut down the power to a singe event, there are much easier ways to do it. Honestly, I think this may have been a test run for something much more ominous. ISIS? Russia? Iran? Antifa? Who knows? With the southern border open to pretty much any Tom Dick or Terrorist who can walk---it literally could be anyone from anywhere in the world.

in the land of soft targets, which version of hardware has the easiest access for disruption...

it's easily plausible this was a 'test run' ... there's also a shite tonnage of other plausible reasons...

this country has set itself up for 'rogue intervention' ... and it doesn't get better moving forward....

welcome to the last developed land mass with resources and value (big ol' cookie jar that many want from the outside)....

lmao at the Yellowstone ref ... that was pretty funny as I'm watching s4e2 (where Rip is ripping the later-be-announced 'ailed' young buck a new arsehole with Beth crackin' her whip and Rip's 'father figure burning in his heart' right now) ... yeah, cancel #SheridanLivesMatter is embedded in their being...

@lifelessons

The whole thing is a massive screw up, from the incident to the reporting of it.

1. This country is loaded with soft targets as you acknowledged. It was loaded with soft targets because we once had closed borders, were allied about our feelings on government even with 2 parties, and nobody living here despised or hated the country and truly didn't bear malice against a wide swath of neighbors.

2. Because of #1 building fortifications and defense infrastructure around a grid was not deemed reasonable due to a lack of internal threat. But open the damned borders and teach hate in your schools, tolerate the non-productive elements, go slack in all areas of law enforcement which don't bring in revenue, and do all of that in a time when asymmetrical warfare is the predominant approach our enemies use, and yes this is what you get.

3. The FBI doesn't know where to start! It could be literally anyone with any motive. It could be any radicalized group left or right, or some dipshit who has a grudge against the county, or insurgents placed here to harass the infrastructure. It could be another ploy by those who want to kill the second amendment. We just don't know and neither will the FBI.

4. If infrastructure is attacked you intentionally release disinformation as to the cause until you track down the perpetrators. Why? One attack can signal or inspire others. You don't know if it is random or coordinated. You immediately put out a bulletin to every county in the nation to patrol, surveil, or install what is necessary to protect their grids. You don't put it all on TV until you've caught the perps, ascertained the threat level, discovered its source, and dealt with it. The media is killing us every way the jerks possibly can.

5. One of the goals of terrorists is to disrupt a people's sense of security. Nothing is quite as effective as the constant drumbeat of threat from the media. They do more work to destroy the morale of the nation than any dozen small insurgent groups could ever do.

6. There are right ways to deal with this and wrong ways. So far they've done everything the wrong way.

7. We are way past the time in this country when we should deal swiftly and harshly with any group who feels they have the right to destroy property, or incumber or harm the citizens. Tolerance in this case merely inspires our enemies and displays our weakness. Oh, and it should demonstrate to the American people how feckless and sorry their elected officials truly are when they don't protect and defend the rights of the citizens. Hello?

PS: If God wants to get you, He doesn't need a gun!
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(12-06-2022 11:02 AM)JRsec Wrote:  7. We are way past the time in this country when we should deal swiftly and harshly with any group who feels they have the right to destroy property, or incumber or harm the citizens. Tolerance in this case merely inspires our enemies and displays our weakness. Oh, and it should demonstrate to the American people how feckless and sorry their elected officials truly are when they don't protect and defend the rights of the citizens. Hello?

Nothing else to say
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(12-06-2022 11:02 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-06-2022 10:29 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 09:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 08:20 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  No history of people cutting power out in this small town

Conservatives have been protesting drag shows for the past year

Drag show is hosted

Group of conservatives protest 18+ drag show for some reason

Obvious intentional destruction of power substations while drag show is going on

Conservatives: "HOW COULD LIBS THINK THIS IS CONNECTED! FAKE NEWS! THEY WANT TO PAINT US AS TERRORISTS WHEN ITS THEM!"

There is no "history of people cutting power out" in any town. There is no "history of drag shows" being shut down anywhere. This "drag show" thing is literally a made up narrative with no proof what so ever---its like a resident claiming it was done to stop he and his family from watching Yellowstone. If one wanted to shut down the power to a singe event, there are much easier ways to do it. Honestly, I think this may have been a test run for something much more ominous. ISIS? Russia? Iran? Antifa? Who knows? With the southern border open to pretty much any Tom Dick or Terrorist who can walk---it literally could be anyone from anywhere in the world.

in the land of soft targets, which version of hardware has the easiest access for disruption...

it's easily plausible this was a 'test run' ... there's also a shite tonnage of other plausible reasons...

this country has set itself up for 'rogue intervention' ... and it doesn't get better moving forward....

welcome to the last developed land mass with resources and value (big ol' cookie jar that many want from the outside)....

lmao at the Yellowstone ref ... that was pretty funny as I'm watching s4e2 (where Rip is ripping the later-be-announced 'ailed' young buck a new arsehole with Beth crackin' her whip and Rip's 'father figure burning in his heart' right now) ... yeah, cancel #SheridanLivesMatter is embedded in their being...

@lifelessons

The whole thing is a massive screw up, from the incident to the reporting of it.

1. This country is loaded with soft targets as you acknowledged. It was loaded with soft targets because we once had closed borders, were allied about our feelings on government even with 2 parties, and nobody living here despised or hated the country and truly didn't bear malice against a wide swath of neighbors.

2. Because of #1 building fortifications and defense infrastructure around a grid was not deemed reasonable due to a lack of internal threat. But open the damned borders and teach hate in your schools, tolerate the non-productive elements, go slack in all areas of law enforcement which don't bring in revenue, and do all of that in a time when asymmetrical warfare is the predominant approach our enemies use, and yes this is what you get.

3. The FBI doesn't know where to start! It could be literally anyone with any motive. It could be any radicalized group left or right, or some dipshit who has a grudge against the county, or insurgents placed here to harass the infrastructure. It could be another ploy by those who want to kill the second amendment. We just don't know and neither will the FBI.

4. If infrastructure is attacked you intentionally release disinformation as to the cause until you track down the perpetrators. Why? One attack can signal or inspire others. You don't know if it is random or coordinated. You immediately put out a bulletin to every county in the nation to patrol, surveil, or install what is necessary to protect their grids. You don't put it all on TV until you've caught the perps, ascertained the threat level, discovered its source, and dealt with it. The media is killing us every way the jerks possibly can.

5. One of the goals of terrorists is to disrupt a people's sense of security. Nothing is quite as effective as the constant drumbeat of threat from the media. They do more work to destroy the morale of the nation than any dozen small insurgent groups could ever do.

6. There are right ways to deal with this and wrong ways. So far they've done everything the wrong way.

7. We are way past the time in this country when we should deal swiftly and harshly with any group who feels they have the right to destroy property, or incumber or harm the citizens. Tolerance in this case merely inspires our enemies and displays our weakness. Oh, and it should demonstrate to the American people how feckless and sorry their elected officials truly are when they don't protect and defend the rights of the citizens. Hello?

PS: If God wants to get you, He doesn't need a gun!

thank you, Jr! ... that covers all the line items in 'frustration'!
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Well, if the VP starts raising money for bail, we know which "side" is responsible. That actually happened a couple of years ago. Yugoslavia, circa 1990. The media actually made up a story of who is responsible.
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Feds warned of infrastructure attacks days before power station sabotage, reveal similar attacks nationwide


Quote:Days after what officials have called a targeted attack on power substations in North Carolina, federal law enforcement revealed that officials warned of such an attack beforehand, according to a new report.

Newsnation obtained the memo from federal law enforcement which read, "Power companies in Oregon and Washington have reported physical attacks on substations using hand tools, arson, firearms, and metal chains possibly in response to an online call for attacks on critical infrastructure... In recent attacks, criminal actors bypassed security by cutting the fence links, lighting nearby fires, shooting equipment from a distance, or throwing objects over the fence and onto equipment."

Three days before the attack on the power stations, the Department of Homeland Security issued a "National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin" terrorism alert bulletin that stated, "Targets of potential violence include: public gatherings, faith-based institutions, the LGBTQI+ community, schools, racial and religious minorities, government facilities and personnel, U.S. critical infrastructure, the media, and perceived ideological opponents."

The bulletin followed another issued by the Department of Homeland Security in January, that warned of domestic extremists developing “credible, specific plans” to attack electricity infrastructure, according to the Associated Press.

Federal officials told the outlet Tuesday that it is too early to know a motive for the gunfire damage that caused power outages for over 40,000 people in Moore County, North Carolina. However, they did note that there have been similar cases of vandalism and plots that have been exposed in North Carolina and across the country in recent months.

In February, three men plead guilty after the Department of Justice discovered a plot to shoot up substations across the country with powerful rifles. According to a statement from the DOJ, “The defendants believed their plan would cost the government millions of dollars and cause unrest for Americans in the region. They had conversations about how the possibility of the power being out for many months could cause war, even a race war, and induce the next Great Depression."

According to federal prosecutors, the plot was discovered when two of the men were pulled over for a traffic violation by police in Ohio and one swallowed a “suicide pill.” He survived.

Sheriff's deputies in Jones County, North Carolina, reported on Nov. 11 that criminal vandalism had caused over 12,000 people to lose power for days. Though the investigation remains ongoing, no suspects have been identified or arrested.

ABC reported that in 2019, “a Utah man pleaded guilty to one federal count of destruction of an energy facility stemming from a 2016 rifle attack on a Buckskin Electrical substation in Kane County and was sentenced to 96 months in prison, according to federal officials. The attack caused nearly $400,000 in damage and triggered a power outage in Kane and Garfield counties.”

“As part of the plea agreement, the defendant admitted causing damage to three substations in Nevada, but was not charged in those incidents, according to federal prosecutors.”

For years federal officials have warned of domestic terrorism-related threats to US infrastructure. ABC reported that in April 2013, “a group of suspects wielding high-powered rifles staged an attack in California’s Silicon Valley, shooting up the Pacific Gas & Electric Company’s Metcalf substation, riddling transformers with bullets, officials said. PG&E said the attack caused $15 million in damage and prompted the utility company to spend $100 million to beef up security at its substations, including installing intruder detection systems.” No arrests were made.

Law enforcement officials called the sabotage of the North Carolina substations on Saturday "coordinated attacks."

According to Moore County Sheriff Ronnie Fields on Saturday night just after 7 pm, several communities across the county began to experience power outages.

Fields said that Duke Energy, which operates the power grid in the county, responded to at least two different substations and found evidence of intentional vandalism at both. "We faced something last night here in Moore County we have never faced before," Fields said on a Facebook Live press conference on Sunday afternoon.

He added that there was extensive damage found at two substations caused by multiple gunshots. PowerOutage.us said 40,679 customers were without power as of Sunday afternoon.

Though no group has claimed responsibility for what Fields called a "targeted attack" he reiterated, "We have no motivation. I call them cowards."

Sen. Tom Mcinnis, (R-NC) said at the press conference, "It appears to be an intentional, willful and malicious act and the perpetrator will be brought to justice and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.”

Duke Energy said Tuesday evening that it "anticipates having nearly all customers restored by 11:59 pm Wednesday."

Additionally, Moore County Schools have been closed since Monday and the closures will continue through Thursday.
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Second NC Electrical Substation - This One Near Camp Lejeune - Was Attacked in November


Quote:As of late Wednesday night, electricity has been restored to more than 40,000 residents of Moore County, North Carolina, who’d been without power since Saturday evening. No information about possible suspects or motive has been disclosed at this time, but the FBI published a wanted poster Wednesday, and North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper announced a $75,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or people responsible for Saturday’s attacks.

The incident highlights a major vulnerability in the nation’s electrical grid, namely tens of thousands of substations throughout the country, many of which are in rural areas, and with varying levels of security. There have been attacks on substations in the past, most notably a 2013 attack in Northern California in which gunmen destroyed 17 transformers, causing $15 million in damage. The perpetrators were never caught.

Attacks on substations around the country have increased recently, leading federal law enforcement officers to issue a warning memo which was obtained by News Nation. It reads, in part :

Power companies in Oregon and Washington have reported physical attacks on substations using hand tools, arson, firearms and metal chains possibly in response to an online call for attacks on critical infrastructure. … In recent attacks, criminal actors bypassed security by cutting the fence links, lighting nearby fires, shooting equipment from a distance or throwing objects over the fence and onto equipment.

In addition, in mid-November a substation in Jones County, NC, a rural coastal county near New Bern, was sabotaged, leaving 11,000 customers without power for about two hours. The restoration timeframe was so much shorter in that instance because Carteret-Craven Electric Cooperative was able to reroute service around that substation.

However, there are a few important similarities between what happened in Moore County and what happened in Jones County. In the utility’s announcement, they noted:

The vandals damaged transformers and caused them to leak coolant oil. Crews worked quickly to stop the flow of coolant and contain it within the property.

In Moore County, a significant amount of oil was also leaking from equipment, at least at one of the affected substations. Southern Pines newspaper The Pilot reported Saturday night:

A reporter on scene at the Duke Energy substation off N.C. 211 near West Pine Middle School could hear and smell oil leaking from the facility.

An archived version of the same report contains a photo of police and Duke Energy employees at the same substation with the caption, “Police and Duke Energy workers survey damage to the West End substation Saturday night around midnight. Large power units were leaking significant quantities of oil.”

In addition, the attacks occurred at locations that are very close to significant military installations. The Jones County substation that was attacked is located in Maysville, which is about 30 miles from Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune, the largest military base on the East Coast, and about the same distance from both Marine Corps Air Station New River and MCAS Cherry Point (as the crow flies, at least). As RedState noted in original reporting on the Moore County attack, the county is adjacent to Fort Bragg, a major Army installation that is home to the US Army Special Operations Command.

Jones County authorities have not disclosed the manner in which the Maysville substation was attacked, simply describing the act as “criminal vandalism.”

According to the North State Journal, electric grid security is going to be a top issue in the North Carolina General Assembly’s next session, and it should be a top issue for the next Congress, as well.
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man, those drag queen shows must be getting out of hand.
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Five more were apparently attacked a few days later in the Washington-Oregon areas. That tends to feed into my theory that some group is probing the grid to see how they might try to take it down.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...month.html
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(12-05-2022 03:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 01:41 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 09:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(12-04-2022 10:59 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-04-2022 08:25 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Big heros cutting off the power to a whole county over an 18+ drag show

you know this how?

It was "reported" on of the morning news shows. They made it clear that there were no direct links identified, but still made a point to mention it "may" have been related to some drag show in town at least three times.

And people wonder why no one trusts the media anymore.

If it was, then so be it. But leading viewers when no facts are known is bush league. Unfortunately, that's what today's media is. Bush league.

Sounds to me like a Dragger didnt make the cut to get in the show, so went and made a cut to kill the show.

If you hear nothing more on this, then we'll know it was a non-binary who did it.

Probably a non-binary Muslim illegal immigrant who came in over the Southern border under Biden.

I read that similar things happened in Florida.
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(12-04-2022 08:25 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Big heros cutting off the power to a whole county over an 18+ drag show

It would be interesting to know just how pathetically stupid you feel right about now.
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It's more common than authorities choose to admit.
This substation attack was a two-for-one: substation + pipeline.
https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/23527...ine-outage

The article speculates on a "who". I wouldn't bet against that notion in any of these events.
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RE: State of Emergency Effective in Moore County, NC After Power Substations Attacked by
(12-05-2022 12:45 AM)banker Wrote:  Sounds more like disgruntled employee (s). Too much knowledge of how things work.

Was exactly my first thought on this. 04-cheers
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