DuelingDragon
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RE: On the magic that once was.
(12-02-2022 12:22 PM)Dragonsbreath Wrote: (12-02-2022 11:58 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: (12-02-2022 11:41 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: (12-02-2022 10:27 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: (12-02-2022 10:08 AM)DuelingDragon Wrote: Shouldn’t be, but it is. That is reality.
That's not how the real world works. If it was then we would be averaging 30,000 fans already. The reason we aren't isn't the current fans fault, it's the program not being nationally relevant. We have to do it how other programs like UCF and Cincinnati did it, by beating teams with bigger reputations than ours. Nothing else will do.
We don't do that by sitting on our hands and saying "That's up to the coach and the team." My son was taken to many UAB games when he was a kid, and he really didn't value it much. What turned the tide was the night that Mike Anderson's UAB team beat Bob Huggin's Cincy team when they were #3 in the nation. Bartow was electric that night, people hanging from the rafters. Randall learned to believe, and he's been a good Blazer ever since.
Sure, making the plays and scoring is on the team. Doing everything possible to lift them up, to make things easier, to provide a winning environment, that's on us. It worked that night, and it still does. We need more butts in seats? Buy an extra pair of tickets and persuade a friend to try it. Give an extra few dollars. Volunteer your time and effort. That's how we forced The Return. It works when applied to other things as well.
You made my point for me. I was there too. That crowd didn't just spontaneously show up. We had gotten to the conference finals (in what was then a high major league) the previous season and were hosting a top 20 team. Apples and oranges to where we find ourselves today. The winning at a high level has to come before the fans respond. Do you think fans haven't already been doing what you suggest? There isn't some reservoir of support that could be tapped if UAB fans just tried harder.
Stop preaching to the choir and blaming the current fans for not doing enough. It hasn't ever worked and it never will. The absolute proof is the empty stands. The program has to come through with big victories or the fan base will not grow. Period.
As I stated in another thread on an earlier post -- I have one question for TD: What can I do as a booster to help you win and build the program? I think this is a question that we all need to ask him.
Write the fattest checks you can write to the nil collective.
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UAB Band Dad
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RE: On the magic that once was.
There it is. It's maybe not the answer we want to hear, but that fat NIL fund at AU is going to make life a lot easier for Freeze. We don't have anything close to that, but that means that every penny into UAB's NIL fund means more to us.
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2022 01:03 PM by UAB Band Dad.)
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BlazerGreen
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RE: On the magic that once was.
The same people have been saying the same things on BT about fans "stepping up" for years and years. Almost nothing has changed support-wise and it won't because it's irrelevant blather. Our programs need to step up and win nationally relevant games THEN the Birmingham market will respond. Until that happens our support won't change one iota. That's how it works everywhere else and UAB will be no exception.
The sermons made to the amen corner are just rhetorical circle jerks.
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2022 02:25 PM by BlazerGreen.)
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RE: On the magic that once was.
(12-02-2022 02:20 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote: The same people have been saying the same things on BT about fans "stepping up" for years and years. Almost nothing has changed support-wise and it won't because it's irrelevant blather. Our programs need to step up and win nationally relevant games THEN the Birmingham market will respond. Until that happens our support won't change one iota. That's how it works everywhere else and UAB will be no exception.
The sermons made to the amen corner are just rhetorical circle jerks.
And yet, here you are.
Feel free to scroll on past, or better yet, use the Ignore function.
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12-02-2022 02:29 PM |
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BlazerGreen
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RE: On the magic that once was.
(12-02-2022 02:29 PM)58-56 Wrote: (12-02-2022 02:20 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote: The same people have been saying the same things on BT about fans "stepping up" for years and years. Almost nothing has changed support-wise and it won't because it's irrelevant blather. Our programs need to step up and win nationally relevant games THEN the Birmingham market will respond. Until that happens our support won't change one iota. That's how it works everywhere else and UAB will be no exception.
The sermons made to the amen corner are just rhetorical circle jerks.
And yet, here you are.
Feel free to scroll on past, or better yet, use the Ignore function.
You feel free to keep wasting bandwidth and preaching to the choir. I'll feel free to comment on what I want and call your sermons what they are: bull****.
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2022 02:37 PM by BlazerGreen.)
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12-02-2022 02:35 PM |
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DuelingDragon
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RE: On the magic that once was.
(12-02-2022 02:20 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote: The same people have been saying the same things on BT about fans "stepping up" for years and years. Almost nothing has changed support-wise and it won't because it's irrelevant blather. Our programs need to step up and win nationally relevant games THEN the Birmingham market will respond. Until that happens our support won't change one iota. That's how it works everywhere else and UAB will be no exception.
The sermons made to the amen corner are just rhetorical circle jerks.
And the quickest way to win those games is to pour resources into NIL. We want to play at they level, this is a must. The programs we are playing are going to do this.
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RE: On the magic that once was.
Ray is fapping.
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12-02-2022 03:33 PM |
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RE: On the magic that once was.
Is giving to the NIL fund tax deductible
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12-02-2022 03:34 PM |
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DuelingDragon
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RE: On the magic that once was.
It depends. Some collectives are registered as 501c3 charities and are tax deductible but I don’t think UAB’s is and that probably honestly is best. So I don’t think they are for the two UAB collectives. You technically are purchasing a membership that includes goods and services in return.
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The Answer UAB
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RE: On the magic that once was.
(12-02-2022 04:16 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote: It depends. Some collectives are registered as 501c3 charities and are tax deductible but I don’t think UAB’s is and that probably honestly is best. So I don’t think they are for the two UAB collectives. You technically are purchasing a membership that includes goods and services in return.
That makes sense. I haven't looked into it yet obviously. Is there a minimum membership cost or donation?
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12-02-2022 04:22 PM |
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RE: On the magic that once was.
(12-02-2022 02:35 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote: (12-02-2022 02:29 PM)58-56 Wrote: (12-02-2022 02:20 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote: The same people have been saying the same things on BT about fans "stepping up" for years and years. Almost nothing has changed support-wise and it won't because it's irrelevant blather. Our programs need to step up and win nationally relevant games THEN the Birmingham market will respond. Until that happens our support won't change one iota. That's how it works everywhere else and UAB will be no exception.
The sermons made to the amen corner are just rhetorical circle jerks.
And yet, here you are.
Feel free to scroll on past, or better yet, use the Ignore function.
You feel free to keep wasting bandwidth and preaching to the choir. I'll feel free to comment on what I want and call your sermons what they are: bull****.
Grabbing my popcorn.
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12-02-2022 05:04 PM |
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RE: On the magic that once was.
This has devolved into the circle we do best. The circular firing squad
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12-02-2022 05:17 PM |
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DuelingDragon
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RE: On the magic that once was.
(12-02-2022 04:22 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: (12-02-2022 04:16 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote: It depends. Some collectives are registered as 501c3 charities and are tax deductible but I don’t think UAB’s is and that probably honestly is best. So I don’t think they are for the two UAB collectives. You technically are purchasing a membership that includes goods and services in return.
That makes sense. I haven't looked into it yet obviously. Is there a minimum membership cost or donation?
I am sure they will gladly accept donations of any amount but I do believe there are membership tiers based on monthly subscriptions.
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