(12-02-2022 04:01 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 03:18 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  The Austin Peay AD is a Duke man and seemingly rather visionary. Former Duke star Nate James is the men's hoops coach.

Peay campus is located in downtown Clarksville, with that community is booming. On a river, some cool restaurants and bars downtown. Eight craft beer breweries in the county. Lot of young people in Clarksville (military families). Very diverse.

Still, this seems a bit bold. Not sure it will fly.

https://www.theleafchronicle.com/story/s...696103007/

And of course, a famous train station.

A fantastic song by The Monkees.

Is there any chance they might join the MAC? Western Kentucky tried to join with Middle Tennessee until the Blue Raiders got cold feet. Maybe the Hilltoppers try to join with the Governors?

Google says they play in a 10K seat stadium. I thought FBS had a 15K minimum?

(12-02-2022 06:32 PM)Bull Wrote:  Google says they play in a 10K seat stadium. I thought FBS had a 15K minimum?

They don’t even enforce the minimum attendance criteria now in FBS and back in late September the Transformation Committee discussed doing away with it.

d. The committee also considered whether to recommend changes to the current FBS attendance requirements. The committee is supportive of eliminating the football attendance requirements and may consider exploring replacement requirements that are more closely tied to student-athlete experience.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/ncaaorg/committ...inutes.pdf

(12-02-2022 06:38 PM)unalions Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 06:32 PM)Bull Wrote:  Google says they play in a 10K seat stadium. I thought FBS had a 15K minimum?

They don’t even enforce the minimum attendance criteria now in FBS and back in late September the Transformation Committee discussed doing away with it. ...

Half true. They did discuss doing away with it. They enforce the criteria, but the criteria is not what a lot of people think of as "attendance", so a lot of people say "they don't enforce the rule" when the reality is "the minimum attendance rule doesn't actually require attendance, if you have enough ticket sales meeting the criteria".

This is similar to the way that the "continuity" rule no longer requires a single current member to have been in the conference last year. The name of the rule doesn't define what it actually does, that is in the text of the criteria.

(12-02-2022 06:32 PM)Bull Wrote:  Google says they play in a 10K seat stadium. I thought FBS had a 15K minimum?

Kennesaw State plays in an 8300 seat stadium.

As for Austin Peay, they may have a 10K seat stadium, but their attendance has always been horrible. I never thought I'd ever see Austin Peay and FBS used in the same sentence, but here we are. Crazy.

(12-02-2022 04:56 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  Any hints David on who might be next to make the leap to Division I-A?

Related (hopefully): Here's to the UWF Argos in Pensacola winning their second national championship in three seasons

DavidSt's prediction is that every single team currently in FCS will jump to FBS. And, unfortunately, that prediction will probably come true within five years.

(12-02-2022 03:07 PM)unalions Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 03:00 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://twitter.com/collegead/status/159...XDo_vDkBFA

Does anyone subscribe to this? Can y'all let us know more?

Here is another article.

https://news.yahoo.com/austin-peays-gera...18135.html

The Board of Trustees meets quarterly, and a regular item on their agenda is a Campus Spotlight. For the December 2 meeting, the spotlight was on "University Athletics". This was apparently the AD's vision presented to the BOT.

The meeting was recorded (presumably) but has not been posted.

(12-02-2022 06:52 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 06:38 PM)unalions Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 06:32 PM)Bull Wrote:  Google says they play in a 10K seat stadium. I thought FBS had a 15K minimum?

They don’t even enforce the minimum attendance criteria now in FBS and back in late September the Transformation Committee discussed doing away with it. ...

Half true. They did discuss doing away with it. They enforce the criteria, but the criteria is not what a lot of people think of as "attendance", so a lot of people say "they don't enforce the rule" when the reality is "the minimum attendance rule doesn't actually require attendance, if you have enough ticket sales meeting the criteria".

This is similar to the way that the "continuity" rule no longer requires a single current member to have been in the conference last year. The name of the rule doesn't define what it actually does, that is in the text of the criteria.

I've seen official NCAA documents that list a lot of team's attendance as being below 15,000. Apparently a lot of schools do report their attendance to the NCAA as being below 15,000, but the NCAA allows them to stay in FBS.


Just look at this page.

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2013/11/19/n...dance.aspx

(12-02-2022 04:17 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 04:01 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 03:18 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  The Austin Peay AD is a Duke man and seemingly rather visionary. Former Duke star Nate James is the men's hoops coach.

Peay campus is located in downtown Clarksville, with that community is booming. On a river, some cool restaurants and bars downtown. Eight craft beer breweries in the county. Lot of young people in Clarksville (military families). Very diverse.

Still, this seems a bit bold. Not sure it will fly.

https://www.theleafchronicle.com/story/s...696103007/

And of course, a famous train station.

Take the last train to FBS
And I'll meet you at the station
You can be here by 2025
'Cause I've made your reservation

Last Train to Clarksville (Youtube)

I didn't realize the Monkees were so old.

Is it pronounced, "Pea" or "Pay?"

(12-02-2022 07:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 06:52 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 06:38 PM)unalions Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 06:32 PM)Bull Wrote:  Google says they play in a 10K seat stadium. I thought FBS had a 15K minimum?

They don’t even enforce the minimum attendance criteria now in FBS and back in late September the Transformation Committee discussed doing away with it. ...

Half true. They did discuss doing away with it. They enforce the criteria, but the criteria is not what a lot of people think of as "attendance", so a lot of people say "they don't enforce the rule" when the reality is "the minimum attendance rule doesn't actually require attendance, if you have enough ticket sales meeting the criteria".

This is similar to the way that the "continuity" rule no longer requires a single current member to have been in the conference last year. The name of the rule doesn't define what it actually does, that is in the text of the criteria.

I've seen official NCAA documents that list a lot of team's attendance as being below 15,000. Apparently a lot of schools do report their attendance to the NCAA as being below 15,000, but the NCAA allows them to stay in FBS.

Just look at this page.

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2013/11/19/n...dance.aspx

The NCAA permits use of actual attendance OR paid attendance. They require the attendance to be audited.

The actual attendance is likely what the NCAA reports in its tables.

The 15,000 requirement has to be met once every two years. Paid attendance can include tickets sold for at least 1/3 of the highest price ticket. At Ball State a local grocery chain buys the tickets and distributes them with a bag of groceries. Tickets are also distributed through the Muncie schools and Boys and Girls Clubs.

At Coastal Carolina, the alumni association buys tickets and gives them to recent graduates as a way to recruit new members who can come back for homecoming or other events. You can have modest dues that include a quarterly magazine. Maybe in a few years the alumni will contribute a $100, and in 50 years bequest $X,000,000 to Coastal.

(12-02-2022 08:01 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Is it pronounced, "Pea" or "Pay?"

"Pea". One of their cheers, I kid you not, is "Let's go Peay!".

(12-02-2022 08:01 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Is it pronounced, "Pea" or "Pay?"

I think it is "Pee"

"Let's Go Peay"

(12-02-2022 08:04 PM)mvfcfan Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 08:01 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Is it pronounced, "Pea" or "Pay?"

"Pea". One of their cheers, I kid you not, is "Let's go Peay!".

One of their cheers? Heck, it's their athletics site URL! LOL!

https://letsgopeay.com/

Thread title should say they want to go FBS in 2025. Big difference.

(12-02-2022 08:04 PM)mvfcfan Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 08:01 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Is it pronounced, "Pea" or "Pay?"

"Pea". One of their cheers, I kid you not, is "Let's go Peay!".

...one of my favorite basketball games I ever attended was during the NCAA opening rounds in Birmingham in the mid-eighties (was there to watch UAB - Providence, and Prov won it - they won the whole 'bracket', and eventually got to the Final Four (Billy Donavan was their star, and was coached by Pitino)), and Austin Peay was playing Illinois, who I think was the highest seed present (#3, perhaps?) ...AP was leading Illinois at the half, and somehow my buds and I moved down into the AP fans area to watch the second half... AP whupped them - and the chant was indeed "Let's go Peeeeay!" awesome to celebrate with a bunch of strangers... Dick Vitale said at halftime on ESPN that he would stand on his head if AP actually beats Illinois... sure enough, at AP's senior banquet, he showed up, and indeed stood on his head (somehow - he was obviously a good bit younger back then...)

(12-02-2022 03:04 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  DavidSt nails another one... or did he have Chattanooga? Maybe both... still counts.

It's Chattanooga who he repeats over and over. If he ever said Austin Peay it was in one of his long lists w/ 30 names including D-II schools.

I'm guessing the people that think he's so good also believe palm readers, where they keep saying stuff until something applies to you. Then you're in awe when he finally gets to it.

(12-02-2022 07:32 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 04:56 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  Any hints David on who might be next to make the leap to Division I-A?

Related (hopefully): Here's to the UWF Argos in Pensacola winning their second national championship in three seasons

DavidSt's prediction is that every single team currently in FCS will jump to FBS. And, unfortunately, that prediction will probably come true within five years.

Fair point — in a general sense. And one of the reasons I often roll my eyes at DavidSt's predictions/points.

However — and to be specific ... DavidSt clearly is often combing the Internet for info about this information. And I seem to recall (if I'm wrong, ... I'm a clueless fool), he had some very specific details regarding why Austin Peay might attempt to elevate its football program to FBS.

Let's see if anybody can verify before we hammer DavidSt.

(12-02-2022 10:01 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 07:32 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 04:56 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  Any hints David on who might be next to make the leap to Division I-A?

Related (hopefully): Here's to the UWF Argos in Pensacola winning their second national championship in three seasons

DavidSt's prediction is that every single team currently in FCS will jump to FBS. And, unfortunately, that prediction will probably come true within five years.

Fair point — in a general sense. And one of the reasons I often roll my eyes at DavidSt's predictions/points.

However — and to be specific ... DavidSt clearly is often combing the Internet for info about this information. And I seem to recall (if I'm wrong, ... I'm a clueless fool), he had some very specific details regarding why Austin Peay might attempt to elevate its football program to FBS.

Let's see if anybody can verify before we hammer DavidSt.

If you wanna give David full credit, in order, for future move ups. #1 Boise to the B12, #2 Boise to the Pac 12, #3 W.Texas A&M to the WAC. #4 GVSU to the OVC, #5 Chattanooga to CUSA.