(11-30-2022 10:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 08:24 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  This guy is a UT grad and doesn't give a flip about the Tigers. F'em. RS will have to produce big next year or he will be gone. Simple as that.

"He needs to produce big next year"---I wonder how many said the same thing about Wokefield after last years 1st 6-6----- with the schedule next year teams akin to --Bolivar--Treadwell--Covington etc etc --he should

Treadwell, now there is a name I have not heard in a long time. I did not attend Treadwell but my teenage memories were made in that area since I grew up
in the National Ave. at Jackson Ave. area. Towns Ave., Vivia Ave., Baylis Ave. All near the National cemetery.

(12-01-2022 12:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 11:12 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 11:00 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  Veatch is learning on the job just like CRS. He came from FL as an Assistant AD there, so no real first hand experience to say.

it's like the blind leading the blind and they will continue to accept mediocrity until it way past too long.

accept it for what it is. the only way to change it is to refuse to be a part of it and make it hurt them in the wallet.

I think CRS should be fired right now, however I'm not going to quit being a fan of the Memphis Tigers because I disagree with the decision. Veatch and the big money guys apparently think Silverfield can do better next season and they are giving him another chance. So, at the very worst, they are delaying for one year what I think should be done now. Sorry that's not enough for me to quit being a fan. Since Silverfield will be coming back next season I will be pulling for him and cheering for our players and hoping he finally figures it out.

I am not arguing --because I agree with you----however I am curious as to what you hope he finally figures out

Do most of us realize that if we fired Silverfield then we also lose our starting quarterback to the transfer portal ? It is my understanding that he said that as long as CRS is here at Memphis then he is also.

(12-01-2022 12:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 11:12 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 11:00 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  Veatch is learning on the job just like CRS. He came from FL as an Assistant AD there, so no real first hand experience to say.

it's like the blind leading the blind and they will continue to accept mediocrity until it way past too long.

accept it for what it is. the only way to change it is to refuse to be a part of it and make it hurt them in the wallet.

I think CRS should be fired right now, however I'm not going to quit being a fan of the Memphis Tigers because I disagree with the decision. Veatch and the big money guys apparently think Silverfield can do better next season and they are giving him another chance. So, at the very worst, they are delaying for one year what I think should be done now. Sorry that's not enough for me to quit being a fan. Since Silverfield will be coming back next season I will be pulling for him and cheering for our players and hoping he finally figures it out.

I am not arguing --because I agree with you----however I am curious as to what you hope he finally figures out

Many things. Primarily how to run the ball and how to win games. Silverfield reminds me of Scott Frost at Nebraska: every game is close and we always find a way to lose. I miss beating bad teams by 30 points. Even our games with a bad Arkansas State team are down to the wire nail biters. We should be dominating them start to finish.

Amazing as soon as someone provides an opinion not liked, attack the messenger. I’m no Finebaum fan but nothing he said is inaccurate & it’s obvious our admin is satisfied with 6th-7th-8th place finishes in the AAC. THAT SEALS OUR FATE folks. We will be a mediocre G-5 program……and some were worried building a 35K OCS wasn’t big enough. Instead we’ll waste $200M on an old municipal stadium & put 10K in a 50,000 seat relic. Only weak leadership & politicians makes such decisions & only the naïve think it logical.

(12-01-2022 07:25 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 12:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 11:12 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 11:00 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  Veatch is learning on the job just like CRS. He came from FL as an Assistant AD there, so no real first hand experience to say.

it's like the blind leading the blind and they will continue to accept mediocrity until it way past too long.

accept it for what it is. the only way to change it is to refuse to be a part of it and make it hurt them in the wallet.

I think CRS should be fired right now, however I'm not going to quit being a fan of the Memphis Tigers because I disagree with the decision. Veatch and the big money guys apparently think Silverfield can do better next season and they are giving him another chance. So, at the very worst, they are delaying for one year what I think should be done now. Sorry that's not enough for me to quit being a fan. Since Silverfield will be coming back next season I will be pulling for him and cheering for our players and hoping he finally figures it out.

I am not arguing --because I agree with you----however I am curious as to what you hope he finally figures out

Do most of us realize that if we fired Silverfield then we also lose our starting quarterback to the transfer portal ? It is my understanding that he said that as long as CRS is here at Memphis then he is also.

a good coach would have no trouble bringing in a QB through the portal. Norvell brought in Riley Ferguson & Brady White.

(12-01-2022 08:54 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Amazing as soon as someone provides an opinion not liked, attack the messenger. I’m no Finebaum fan but nothing he said is inaccurate & it’s obvious our admin is satisfied with 6th-7th-8th place finishes in the AAC. THAT SEALS OUR FATE folks. We will be a mediocre G-5 program……and some were worried building a 35K OCS wasn’t big enough. Instead we’ll waste $200M on an old municipal stadium & put 10K in a 50,000 seat relic. Only weak leadership & politicians makes such decisions & only the naïve think it logical.

+3

I will point out that we are all making an assumption that the only reason Silverfield is coming back next season is because of his buyout and financial reasons. I'm not sure that assumption is correct. I think our school leadership and our big donors feel that he might be right on the cusp of having a good football team and he just needs one more year to achieve it. I honestly don't know because they don't communicate with the public.

(12-01-2022 12:18 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Then again, Finebaum on Miami. “New coach, but Miami is still college football’s greatest fraud,” Finebaum said on ESPN. “How many times have we been to this precipice? Turnover chain, Miami is back. They’ve been back almost as many times as Texas has been back."

Finebaum lives in North Carolina and appears to have spent most of his life in Alabama. I could not find anything that would indicate he is a U of M fan. Even worse, he is a University of Tennessee alum. Somehow, listening to an opinion from a Tennessee alum about Memphis football or any sport is not something I consider totally unbiased nor in the best interest of the U of M. I know more than enough Tennessee fans that this big brother-little brother condescending attitude is enough to make me puke orange. I also refuse to call them UT.....UT is THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. Most fun I have is when someone says they went to UT, I respond.. "I love Austin! Great city. How did you like it?"

It seems like you are actually posting arguments against your point. You pointed out along with Memphis that he has been critical of Texas A&M as well as Miami. He clearly is not just picking on little Ole Memphis. And what he said is 100% true. It stings hearing it from a UTK guy but it is the truth, the very hard truth...

(12-01-2022 09:42 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 12:18 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Then again, Finebaum on Miami. “New coach, but Miami is still college football’s greatest fraud,” Finebaum said on ESPN. “How many times have we been to this precipice? Turnover chain, Miami is back. They’ve been back almost as many times as Texas has been back."

Finebaum lives in North Carolina and appears to have spent most of his life in Alabama. I could not find anything that would indicate he is a U of M fan. Even worse, he is a University of Tennessee alum. Somehow, listening to an opinion from a Tennessee alum about Memphis football or any sport is not something I consider totally unbiased nor in the best interest of the U of M. I know more than enough Tennessee fans that this big brother-little brother condescending attitude is enough to make me puke orange. I also refuse to call them UT.....UT is THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. Most fun I have is when someone says they went to UT, I respond.. "I love Austin! Great city. How did you like it?"

It seems like you are actually posting arguments against your point. You pointed out along with Memphis that he has been critical of Texas A&M as well as Miami. He clearly is not just picking on little Ole Memphis. And what he said is 100% true. It stings hearing it from a UTK guy but it is the truth, the very hard truth...

He has said repeatedly that Memphis was his childhood team and he went to Memphis football games.

(11-30-2022 07:25 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  oh boy,,,,

"It's just hard for me to understand. I realize you lose good coaches and they're very difficult to replace. But it just puts a premium on the decision making of the athletic department," Finebaum said. "It's a terrible decision. Just go bring somebody else in, change the dynamics. If you can't afford to pay him off, why would I as a 17-year-old go play at Memphis if I've got a better offer or a comparable offer."

FINEBAUM = SEC HOMER

You can disagree with Finebaum, but a number of posters here agree with him. He could have read this board to get his talking points.

(12-01-2022 09:54 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 07:25 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  oh boy,,,,

"It's just hard for me to understand. I realize you lose good coaches and they're very difficult to replace. But it just puts a premium on the decision making of the athletic department," Finebaum said. "It's a terrible decision. Just go bring somebody else in, change the dynamics. If you can't afford to pay him off, why would I as a 17-year-old go play at Memphis if I've got a better offer or a comparable offer."

FINEBAUM = SEC HOMER

The point is being omitted, as we are too interested in deciphering the sources intentions as opposed to breaking down this situation and coming to the conclusion that it's an absolute fact....This situation is TOTALLY F%@$KING EMBARASSING...These games are embarrasing. These loses are embarassing The coaches performances ARE INDEED EMBARASSING... I absolutely relish that fact that on occassion, after an EMBARRASSING performance from himself/his players, coach Hardaway actually expresses and acknowledges EMBARASSMENT...Atleast he willingly admits his faults and tries to make the proper adjustments to remedy them.Silbernutz just wash rinse repeats the same DUMB :

(12-01-2022 07:07 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 10:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 08:24 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  This guy is a UT grad and doesn't give a flip about the Tigers. F'em. RS will have to produce big next year or he will be gone. Simple as that.

"He needs to produce big next year"---I wonder how many said the same thing about Wokefield after last years 1st 6-6----- with the schedule next year teams akin to --Bolivar--Treadwell--Covington etc etc --he should

Treadwell, now there is a name I have not heard in a long time. I did not attend Treadwell but my teenage memories were made in that area since I grew up
in the National Ave. at Jackson Ave. area. Towns Ave., Vivia Ave., Baylis Ave. All near the National cemetery.

Nutbush

(12-01-2022 09:42 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 12:18 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Then again, Finebaum on Miami. “New coach, but Miami is still college football’s greatest fraud,” Finebaum said on ESPN. “How many times have we been to this precipice? Turnover chain, Miami is back. They’ve been back almost as many times as Texas has been back."

Finebaum lives in North Carolina and appears to have spent most of his life in Alabama. I could not find anything that would indicate he is a U of M fan. Even worse, he is a University of Tennessee alum. Somehow, listening to an opinion from a Tennessee alum about Memphis football or any sport is not something I consider totally unbiased nor in the best interest of the U of M. I know more than enough Tennessee fans that this big brother-little brother condescending attitude is enough to make me puke orange. I also refuse to call them UT.....UT is THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. Most fun I have is when someone says they went to UT, I respond.. "I love Austin! Great city. How did you like it?"

It seems like you are actually posting arguments against your point. You pointed out along with Memphis that he has been critical of Texas A&M as well as Miami. He clearly is not just picking on little Ole Memphis. And what he said is 100% true. It stings hearing it from a UTK guy but it is the truth, the very hard truth...

No, I am pointing out that when he has a slow news day, he goes into his standard story of 1) find a school that has a less than spectacular record than in previous years 2) do a story that the coach needs to be fired. it shows it does not take much to be a sports writer and even you can do it.

(12-01-2022 10:07 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:54 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 07:25 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  oh boy,,,,

"It's just hard for me to understand. I realize you lose good coaches and they're very difficult to replace. But it just puts a premium on the decision making of the athletic department," Finebaum said. "It's a terrible decision. Just go bring somebody else in, change the dynamics. If you can't afford to pay him off, why would I as a 17-year-old go play at Memphis if I've got a better offer or a comparable offer."

FINEBAUM = SEC HOMER

The point is being omitted, as we are too interested in deciphering the sources intentions ad opposed to breaking down this situation and coming to the conclusion that it's an absolute fact....This situation is TOTALLY F%@$KING EMBARASSING...These games are embarrasing. These loses are embarassing The coaches performances ARE INDEED EMBARASSING... I absolutely relish that fact that on occassion, after an EMBARRASSING performance from himself/his players, coach Hardaway actually expresses and acknowledges EMBARASSMENT...Atleast he willingly admits his faults and tries to make the proper adjustments to remedy them.Silbernutz just wash rinse repeats the same DUMB :

I'm not embarrassed. Is Silverfield the right guy? Who knows, time will sure tell. But what is there to be embarrassed about?

i sat through embarrassing games. I was there when we had the country's longest losing streak. I was there during the Larry Porter days. That was embarrassing.
6-6 is just MEH, not embarrassing. I say, one more year and if we still have the same product, then let's move on.

Embarrassing is earning a P5 welfare check and producing as Colorado, Northwestern, Va Tech, etc.

(12-01-2022 10:17 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:42 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 12:18 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Then again, Finebaum on Miami. “New coach, but Miami is still college football’s greatest fraud,” Finebaum said on ESPN. “How many times have we been to this precipice? Turnover chain, Miami is back. They’ve been back almost as many times as Texas has been back."

Finebaum lives in North Carolina and appears to have spent most of his life in Alabama. I could not find anything that would indicate he is a U of M fan. Even worse, he is a University of Tennessee alum. Somehow, listening to an opinion from a Tennessee alum about Memphis football or any sport is not something I consider totally unbiased nor in the best interest of the U of M. I know more than enough Tennessee fans that this big brother-little brother condescending attitude is enough to make me puke orange. I also refuse to call them UT.....UT is THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. Most fun I have is when someone says they went to UT, I respond.. "I love Austin! Great city. How did you like it?"

It seems like you are actually posting arguments against your point. You pointed out along with Memphis that he has been critical of Texas A&M as well as Miami. He clearly is not just picking on little Ole Memphis. And what he said is 100% true. It stings hearing it from a UTK guy but it is the truth, the very hard truth...

No, I am pointing out that when he has a slow news day, he goes into his standard story of 1) find a school that has a less than spectacular record than in previous years 2) do a story that the coach needs to be fired. it shows it does not take much to be a sports writer and even you can do it.

Ok but notwithstanding, what he said is absolutely true. But by all means shoot the messenger.

(12-01-2022 10:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 10:17 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:42 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 12:18 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Then again, Finebaum on Miami. “New coach, but Miami is still college football’s greatest fraud,” Finebaum said on ESPN. “How many times have we been to this precipice? Turnover chain, Miami is back. They’ve been back almost as many times as Texas has been back."

Finebaum lives in North Carolina and appears to have spent most of his life in Alabama. I could not find anything that would indicate he is a U of M fan. Even worse, he is a University of Tennessee alum. Somehow, listening to an opinion from a Tennessee alum about Memphis football or any sport is not something I consider totally unbiased nor in the best interest of the U of M. I know more than enough Tennessee fans that this big brother-little brother condescending attitude is enough to make me puke orange. I also refuse to call them UT.....UT is THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. Most fun I have is when someone says they went to UT, I respond.. "I love Austin! Great city. How did you like it?"

It seems like you are actually posting arguments against your point. You pointed out along with Memphis that he has been critical of Texas A&M as well as Miami. He clearly is not just picking on little Ole Memphis. And what he said is 100% true. It stings hearing it from a UTK guy but it is the truth, the very hard truth...

No, I am pointing out that when he has a slow news day, he goes into his standard story of 1) find a school that has a less than spectacular record than in previous years 2) do a story that the coach needs to be fired. it shows it does not take much to be a sports writer and even you can do it.

Ok but notwithstanding, what he said is absolutely true. But by all means shoot the messenger.

You left out a word......"But by all means shoot the BIASED messenger."

(12-01-2022 09:26 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  I will point out that we are all making an assumption that the only reason Silverfield is coming back next season is because of his buyout and financial reasons. I'm not sure that assumption is correct. I think our school leadership and our big donors feel that he might be right on the cusp of having a good football team and he just needs one more year to achieve it. I honestly don't know because they don't communicate with the public.

I think the issue is....he took over a team that was on the cusp. Even over the cusp. His first game coaches was a NY6 Cotton Bowl for petes sake!

We need someone to make it on the national stage via our journalism/broadcasting department THAT CAN SHINE POSITIVE LIGHT on our program. Only pres we get is negative.

Pat Forde has done a lot for Louisville and Ky.

P.S. GP aint it

(12-01-2022 10:18 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 10:07 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:54 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 07:25 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  oh boy,,,,

"It's just hard for me to understand. I realize you lose good coaches and they're very difficult to replace. But it just puts a premium on the decision making of the athletic department," Finebaum said. "It's a terrible decision. Just g⁹o bring somebody else in, change the dynamics. If you can't afford to pay him off, why would I as a 17-year-old go play at Memphis if I've got a better offer or a comparable offer."

FINEBAUM = SEC HOMER

The point is being omitted, as we are too interested in deciphering the sources intentions as opposed to breaking down this situation and coming to the conclusion that it's an absolute fact....This situation is TOTALLY F%@$KING EMBARASSING...These games are embarrasing. These loses are embarassing The coaches performances ARE INDEED EMBARASSING... I absolutely relish that fact that on occassion, after an EMBARRASSING performance from himself/his players, coach Hardaway actually expresses and acknowledges EMBARASSMENT...Atleast he willingly admits his faults and tries to make the proper adjustments to remedy them.Silbernutz just wash rinse repeats the same DUMB :

I'm not embarrassed. Is Silverfield the right guy? Who knows, time will sure tell. But what is there to be embarrassed about?

i sat through embarrassing games. I was there when we had the country's longest losing streak. I was there during the Larry Porter days. That was embarrassing.
6-6 is just MEH, not embarrassing. I say, one more year and if we still have the same product, then let's move on.

Embarrassing is earning a P5 welfare check and producing as Colorado, Northwestern, Va Tech, etc.

What is the feeling/expression to being on the cusp of national ranking with a very "winable" game at home; leading by 21 points into the 4th quarter and squandering that game, that massive opportunity. Not ONLY that, from what I understand these have been pretty highly touted recruiting classes in comparison to our conference mates, however after squandering an opportunity to win The Cotton Bowl, easily one of the more significant accomplishments in program history, we've managed to hover around the bottom of our league amassing records of 6-6. We are heading into next season anticipating that a "weaker" slate of opponents will render a more favorable record that will allow to cover/hide/shield the ineptness of a coach whose philosophies are being exposed....

From this seat, that's pretty embarassing...for those that chose otherwise...More power to yah

aamof, as history repeats itself...this pattern ensures that there is even more embarassing moments on the horizon