(12-01-2022 11:31 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:48 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:44 PM)ULMhawk Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:27 PM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 07:35 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  It’s literally what you said “it was the 3rd highest attended bowl game in the last 10 years”

I was speaking of Marshall Bowl games.

(12-01-2022 07:37 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  because after sending us 5 straight, the Nola bowl started being forced to take the champion every other year. Please tell me more about our conference you have been in for 6 months

I must commend you on your impeccable reading comprehension skills. Then again people from La. can bearly talk, I'm not sure how in the hell they can read.

Show me an example where I am trying to convince you of anything about the SB conference.

*barely

Bruh…that’s some funny ****!

LOL. Nothing better than someone trying to troll people and end up doing nothing but exposing how stupid they are.

(12-02-2022 05:33 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 11:31 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:48 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:44 PM)ULMhawk Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:27 PM)Johns1124 Wrote:  I was speaking of Marshall Bowl games.


I must commend you on your impeccable reading comprehension skills. Then again people from La. can bearly talk, I'm not sure how in the hell they can read.

Show me an example where I am trying to convince you of anything about the SB conference.

*barely

Bruh…that’s some funny ****!

LOL. Nothing better than someone trying to troll people and end up doing nothing but exposing how stupid they are.

Nice how you take one word, make asinine assumptions, and run with it.

Try looking up Ad Hominem.

Army's appeal has been denied, per Brett McMurphy. This confirms that Indy Bowl will be SBC vs AAC matchup.

(12-02-2022 08:01 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 05:33 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 11:31 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:48 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:44 PM)ULMhawk Wrote:  *barely

Bruh…that’s some funny ****!

LOL. Nothing better than someone trying to troll people and end up doing nothing but exposing how stupid they are.

Nice how you take one word, make asinine assumptions, and run with it.

Try looking up Ad Hominem.

Your first post was so stupid and ignorant that you decided to post it again? Smart. Real smart.

So tells us why you think people from Louisiana can’t talk, as you stated in your ‘ad hominem’ op?

ETA: and it was not just one word, it was an entire post that was stupid and infamatory.

Play nice guys.

The Cajuns were in the NO bowl FOUR straight years, not five.

They remain the top four attended NO Bowls.

Appearances were 2011, 12, 13, 14, 16 and 21

(12-01-2022 09:06 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 01:59 PM)TTT Wrote:  The SBC needs a tie with a P5. The New Orleans Bowl is the perfect bowl to attract a P5. New Orleans is a destination city. The Superdome is one of the most esteemed stadiums in the world. P5 fans from all across the US would love to travel to New Orleans for a bowl game. We need to make this happen: the SBC Champion plays a P5 opponent every year in the NOLA Bowl and the date is pushed back a week or so. The NOLA Bowl needs to be what the Liberty Bowl used to be before they dropped CUSA, which was the CUSA Champ vs SEC. I'm not saying the NOLA Bowl can attract an SEC opponenet but I could attract a P12 or some other P5.

Be careful what you wish for. The CUSA-era Liberty Bowl started out as CUSA Champ vs. MWC Champ. Then it became the CUSA Champ vs. a 6-7 win SEC team. Then the SEC got the right to pick a different opponent every few years (which is why we didn’t go in 2011). Then CUSA got pushed out altogether.

It's important to understand the trajectory of the SBC NOW in relation to the NOLA Bowl vs the trajector of CUSA in the late 2000s/early 2010s in relation to the Liberty Bowl during that time. HUGE difference. With the SBC's rise over the past few years, I don't think the SBC should have to worry about losing the NOLA Bowl any time soon - CUSA on the other hand should for obvious reasons.

Don't care how we do it but we've GOT to get a bowl tie in with a P5 team by any means necessary. The AAC, MWC and the MAC for Christ's sake has P5 tie-in. The SBC needs one.

(12-02-2022 11:10 AM)TTT Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:06 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 01:59 PM)TTT Wrote:  The SBC needs a tie with a P5. The New Orleans Bowl is the perfect bowl to attract a P5. New Orleans is a destination city. The Superdome is one of the most esteemed stadiums in the world. P5 fans from all across the US would love to travel to New Orleans for a bowl game. We need to make this happen: the SBC Champion plays a P5 opponent every year in the NOLA Bowl and the date is pushed back a week or so. The NOLA Bowl needs to be what the Liberty Bowl used to be before they dropped CUSA, which was the CUSA Champ vs SEC. I'm not saying the NOLA Bowl can attract an SEC opponenet but I could attract a P12 or some other P5.

Be careful what you wish for. The CUSA-era Liberty Bowl started out as CUSA Champ vs. MWC Champ. Then it became the CUSA Champ vs. a 6-7 win SEC team. Then the SEC got the right to pick a different opponent every few years (which is why we didn’t go in 2011). Then CUSA got pushed out altogether.

It's important to understand the trajectory of the SBC NOW in relation to the NOLA Bowl vs the trajector of CUSA in the late 2000s/early 2010s in relation to the Liberty Bowl during that time. HUGE difference. With the SBC's rise over the past few years, I don't think the SBC should have to worry about losing the NOLA Bowl any time soon - CUSA on the other hand should for obvious reasons.

Don't care how we do it but we've GOT to get a bowl tie in with a P5 team by any means necessary. The AAC, MWC and the MAC for Christ's sake has P5 tie-in. The SBC needs one.

Honestly, the NOLA Bowl makes the most sense.. With the offices being in New Orleans, it'd make an awesome bowl.

Do we know what's a close halfway point for all the schools?

(12-02-2022 11:31 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 11:10 AM)TTT Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:06 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 01:59 PM)TTT Wrote:  The SBC needs a tie with a P5. The New Orleans Bowl is the perfect bowl to attract a P5. New Orleans is a destination city. The Superdome is one of the most esteemed stadiums in the world. P5 fans from all across the US would love to travel to New Orleans for a bowl game. We need to make this happen: the SBC Champion plays a P5 opponent every year in the NOLA Bowl and the date is pushed back a week or so. The NOLA Bowl needs to be what the Liberty Bowl used to be before they dropped CUSA, which was the CUSA Champ vs SEC. I'm not saying the NOLA Bowl can attract an SEC opponenet but I could attract a P12 or some other P5.

Be careful what you wish for. The CUSA-era Liberty Bowl started out as CUSA Champ vs. MWC Champ. Then it became the CUSA Champ vs. a 6-7 win SEC team. Then the SEC got the right to pick a different opponent every few years (which is why we didn’t go in 2011). Then CUSA got pushed out altogether.

It's important to understand the trajectory of the SBC NOW in relation to the NOLA Bowl vs the trajector of CUSA in the late 2000s/early 2010s in relation to the Liberty Bowl during that time. HUGE difference. With the SBC's rise over the past few years, I don't think the SBC should have to worry about losing the NOLA Bowl any time soon - CUSA on the other hand should for obvious reasons.

Don't care how we do it but we've GOT to get a bowl tie in with a P5 team by any means necessary. The AAC, MWC and the MAC for Christ's sake has P5 tie-in. The SBC needs one.

Honestly, the NOLA Bowl makes the most sense.. With the offices being in New Orleans, it'd make an awesome bowl.

Do we know what's a close halfway point for all the schools?

Yes, and the best shot of that, like someone mentioned earlier, is the Nola bowl. That would definitely help entice a p5

(12-02-2022 11:10 AM)TTT Wrote:  It's important to understand the trajectory of the SBC NOW in relation to the NOLA Bowl vs the trajector of CUSA in the late 2000s/early 2010s in relation to the Liberty Bowl during that time. HUGE difference. With the SBC's rise over the past few years, I don't think the SBC should have to worry about losing the NOLA Bowl any time soon - CUSA on the other hand should for obvious reasons.

Don't care how we do it but we've GOT to get a bowl tie in with a P5 team by any means necessary. The AAC, MWC and the MAC for Christ's sake has P5 tie-in. The SBC needs one.

I'm all for locking in a P5 bowl opponent. I'm wholly opposed to locking in our champion to play a middling P5 opponent every year when there could be a better game available. If there's a ranked AAC or MWC team out there, that's who I want our champion playing instead of an unranked 6-6 Arkansas or 7-5 Baylor.

Get a P5 opponent. Give our champion the best opportunity to shine. If the two coincide, great. Just leave the door open in case they don't.

Of course, hopefully, our champion is in the playoff from '24 onward, and we're talking about our 2nd place team here anyway.

(12-02-2022 12:21 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 11:10 AM)TTT Wrote:  It's important to understand the trajectory of the SBC NOW in relation to the NOLA Bowl vs the trajector of CUSA in the late 2000s/early 2010s in relation to the Liberty Bowl during that time. HUGE difference. With the SBC's rise over the past few years, I don't think the SBC should have to worry about losing the NOLA Bowl any time soon - CUSA on the other hand should for obvious reasons.

Don't care how we do it but we've GOT to get a bowl tie in with a P5 team by any means necessary. The AAC, MWC and the MAC for Christ's sake has P5 tie-in. The SBC needs one.

I'm all for locking in a P5 bowl opponent. I'm wholly opposed to locking in our champion to play a middling P5 opponent every year when there could be a better game available. If there's a ranked AAC or MWC team out there, that's who I want our champion playing instead of an unranked 6-6 Arkansas or 7-5 Baylor.

Get a P5 opponent. Give our champion the best opportunity to shine. If the two coincide, great. Just leave the door open in case they don't.

Of course, hopefully, our champion is in the playoff from '24 onward, and we're talking about our 2nd place team here anyway.

But I think it makes it whole lot less of a draw if we can’t promise that they will take on the SBC champ. I mean I agree with what you are saying but our battle against the machine is big enough, so we may have to make that concession.

(12-02-2022 12:21 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 11:10 AM)TTT Wrote:  It's important to understand the trajectory of the SBC NOW in relation to the NOLA Bowl vs the trajector of CUSA in the late 2000s/early 2010s in relation to the Liberty Bowl during that time. HUGE difference. With the SBC's rise over the past few years, I don't think the SBC should have to worry about losing the NOLA Bowl any time soon - CUSA on the other hand should for obvious reasons.

Don't care how we do it but we've GOT to get a bowl tie in with a P5 team by any means necessary. The AAC, MWC and the MAC for Christ's sake has P5 tie-in. The SBC needs one.

I'm all for locking in a P5 bowl opponent. I'm wholly opposed to locking in our champion to play a middling P5 opponent every year when there could be a better game available. If there's a ranked AAC or MWC team out there, that's who I want our champion playing instead of an unranked 6-6 Arkansas or 7-5 Baylor.

Get a P5 opponent. Give our champion the best opportunity to shine. If the two coincide, great. Just leave the door open in case they don't.

Of course, hopefully, our champion is in the playoff from '24 onward, and we're talking about our 2nd place team here anyway.

Good point. I suppose it just depends on who the P5 team is. All I'm saying is...we GOTTA get a P5 tie-in in some SBC bowl.

(12-02-2022 04:50 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(12-02-2022 12:21 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  I'm all for locking in a P5 bowl opponent. I'm wholly opposed to locking in our champion to play a middling P5 opponent every year when there could be a better game available. If there's a ranked AAC or MWC team out there, that's who I want our champion playing instead of an unranked 6-6 Arkansas or 7-5 Baylor.

Get a P5 opponent. Give our champion the best opportunity to shine. If the two coincide, great. Just leave the door open in case they don't.

Of course, hopefully, our champion is in the playoff from '24 onward, and we're talking about our 2nd place team here anyway.

But I think it makes it whole lot less of a draw if we can’t promise that they will take on the SBC champ. I mean I agree with what you are saying but our battle against the machine is big enough, so we may have to make that concession.

Making that concession fuels the machine, though.

If we win that game, the best we’ve got only beat a mediocre team disappointed to be there. We don’t get a whole lot of cred out of it and they don’t lose any. If we lose, then it proves our best can’t even hang with their also-rans. The risk/reward is inherently one-sided, and we’re all, “Thank you, sir. May I please have another?”

All of the bowl talk just confirms my belief that the bowl system is a complete farce.

Bowl selection is not merit based which is the opposite of what competitive sports should be.

A bunch of teams that finished 5-6 against FBS competition are wondering what bowl they “deserve” to be in.
You had a losing season against peers. There shouldn’t be any reward for a team that loses more than it wins.

(12-03-2022 05:06 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  All of the bowl talk just confirms my belief that the bowl system is a complete farce.

Bowl selection is not merit based which is the opposite of what competitive sports should be.

A bunch of teams that finished 5-6 against FBS competition are wondering what bowl they “deserve” to be in.
You had a losing season against peers. There shouldn’t be any reward for a team that loses more than it wins.

Then why did you move up here?

(12-01-2022 10:34 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:00 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 08:50 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 03:30 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  App should apply for a waiver. If nothing else the bowl payout to the conference makes it worth it.

App did. It was denied.

If App got denied and they allowed the Aggies I'll compose a harshly worded email to the NCAA.

If NMSU only had 1 FCS team originally on the schedule, and then scheduled Valpo to get to a 12th game because an FBS team canceled, I would think that they would have a much more valid argument than App.

Not only 2 FCS wins, but Valpo plays in the Pioneer League which has no scholarships, so that’s an additional issue that needs to be addressed by the NCAA.

Quote:No more than one win against an FCS team may count toward that win total, and only if the FCS team has awarded at least 90% of the scholarships that FCS rules allowed it to award over the last two years. (Currently, that means that wins against Ivy League, Georgetown, Pioneer Football League, and some Northeast Conference teams do not count.) The requirement that the FCS team must have awarded 90% of its allowed scholarships may be waived if a "unique or catastrophic situation" prevented the FCS team from meeting that requirement.

(12-03-2022 05:07 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 05:06 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  All of the bowl talk just confirms my belief that the bowl system is a complete farce.

Bowl selection is not merit based which is the opposite of what competitive sports should be.

A bunch of teams that finished 5-6 against FBS competition are wondering what bowl they “deserve” to be in.
You had a losing season against peers. There shouldn’t be any reward for a team that loses more than it wins.

Then why did you move up here?

Because the results from an unprecedented 1-year transition should show you JMU doesn’t expect to just scrape by and become bowl eligible.

(12-03-2022 05:30 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 05:07 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 05:06 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  All of the bowl talk just confirms my belief that the bowl system is a complete farce.

Bowl selection is not merit based which is the opposite of what competitive sports should be.

A bunch of teams that finished 5-6 against FBS competition are wondering what bowl they “deserve” to be in.
You had a losing season against peers. There shouldn’t be any reward for a team that loses more than it wins.

Then why did you move up here?

Because the results from an unprecedented 1-year transition should show you JMU doesn’t expect to just scrape by and become bowl eligible.

To benefit from a system that doesn't reward competition.

Aight cool thanks for clarifying.

(12-03-2022 05:30 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Because the results from an unprecedented 1-year transition should show you JMU doesn’t expect to just scrape by and become bowl eligible.

"unprecedented" - There is that word again.

You sure scrapped by GSU and APP. St., your x-division games were nothing but "Scrapping" by.

(12-03-2022 05:23 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 10:34 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:00 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 08:50 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 03:30 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  App should apply for a waiver. If nothing else the bowl payout to the conference makes it worth it.

App did. It was denied.

If App got denied and they allowed the Aggies I'll compose a harshly worded email to the NCAA.

If NMSU only had 1 FCS team originally on the schedule, and then scheduled Valpo to get to a 12th game because an FBS team canceled, I would think that they would have a much more valid argument than App.

Not only 2 FCS wins, but Valpo plays in the Pioneer League which has no scholarships, so that’s an additional issue that needs to be addressed by the NCAA.

Quote:No more than one win against an FCS team may count toward that win total, and only if the FCS team has awarded at least 90% of the scholarships that FCS rules allowed it to award over the last two years. (Currently, that means that wins against Ivy League, Georgetown, Pioneer Football League, and some Northeast Conference teams do not count.) The requirement that the FCS team must have awarded 90% of its allowed scholarships may be waived if a "unique or catastrophic situation" prevented the FCS team from meeting that requirement.

NMSU’s waiver asked that they be the first available team with 5 wins since they didn’t have an opportunity to play for their 6th. The added game vs. Valpo doesn’t figure in.

When they couldn’t find an FBS opponent for this week, they scheduled a game anyway so they would’t lose a gate (the canceled game was at home) and could have Senior Day. What happened to Senior Day at their last scheduled home game 3 weeks ago, I do not know.

(12-03-2022 05:31 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 05:30 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 05:07 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 05:06 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  All of the bowl talk just confirms my belief that the bowl system is a complete farce.

Bowl selection is not merit based which is the opposite of what competitive sports should be.

A bunch of teams that finished 5-6 against FBS competition are wondering what bowl they “deserve” to be in.
You had a losing season against peers. There shouldn’t be any reward for a team that loses more than it wins.

Then why did you move up here?

Because the results from an unprecedented 1-year transition should show you JMU doesn’t expect to just scrape by and become bowl eligible.

To benefit from a system that doesn't reward competition.

Aight cool thanks for clarifying.