(11-28-2022 10:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: (11-28-2022 09:51 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: (11-28-2022 08:54 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: Someone not on the current fishing list.
I hope it's not Campbell. The guy who went 35-15 at Toledo is now 46-42 at Iowa St. That's trending in the wrong direction. A big meh IMO. Realistically, why would he leave one B12 school for another? How many coaches jump ship within the same conference?
He'd be going from the worst job in the big 12 that's a second fiddle program in a small state and he's been the most successful coach the last half century to a program right in his recruiting wheelhouse that's had a ton of success the last decade and a half and is about to have doors opened to it that have been closed
Kansas is the worst job. Anywho, you're higher on him than I am. Since the peak 9-3 year in 2020 Campbell is 7-6 and 4-8. Sounds like Tuberville to me.
UC fans are constantly seeing Tuberville ghosts when they don't exist. No hire is a slam dunk, but the Tuberville comparison here is a terrible one. This isn't some old, previously fired, about to get run out of another job coach in retirement mode that would rather play golf than coach. It's also not the CEO hands off coach. Not every coach with experience in a power conference is Tommy Tuberville. Campbell is young, driven and looking to succeed at a high level.
Rath pointed out if there was someone with Saban's Michigan State resume he'd take him in a heartbeat. That's basically what Campbell's resume was two years ago. We'd be buying low after one bad year at a job where the margins are really small.
My biggest pet peeve with when fans evaluate coaches is they never seem to give any weight to the degree of difficulty of the job. It's why Bill Snyder, for example, is absurdly underrated by fans from a historical perspective.
I get that not everyone is going to agree with this perspective but my belief that Campbell would be an incredible hire stems from this.
I think you get the highest floor of any of the coaches available but you don't sacrifice the ceiling.
We know Campbell can coach. We know he won at an incredibly difficult job. At the very worse I think he'd approximate his success from Iowa State (which isn't what I want, but again, I see that as his floor here).
What's also true is the guy is a 3 time Big 12 coach of the year in 7 seasons. Others understand what a difficult job Iowa State is and these rewards reflect that. He had been one of the most prominent up and coming names in college football. What if the thing he needed was a job that tapped into his strenghts.
Fickell waited at UC because he knew his strength in recruiting was his Midwest ties and wanted a job that fit his strengths. He wasn't jumping to better perceived jobs or other P5 jobs that would be higher risk. Campbell is an Ohio guy, with Ohio recruiting ties. People have undervalued the strength of the UC job and the advantages it gives a coach for too long. What if people were right about Campbell being a potentially elite coach and UC is the place to tap into it.
(Fickell was a 6-7 coach at one of the best programs in college football when basically every year before and after him was 10+ wins per season. We hired him. it worked)
Looking at the alternatives:
Hartline is major upside, but a huge unknown as a head coach (having only been a position coach / with some additional duties) so the floor is low.
Herman I'm open too but to me he has a reasonably similar resume to Campbell but fewer Ohio connections, has been out of coaching, and has a lot more baggage.
Coach Prime is unequivocally the biggest upside guy. I actually think his floor is higher than the assistants were looking at and would love if he got a serious look.
So again. I like Campbell. He's the guy I want most at this point. I like him because I believe he is high floor without sacrificing upside potential.
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