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RE: New Head Coach PREDICTION Thread
1A. Urban
1B. Herman
 
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(11-28-2022 09:55 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 09:46 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 08:54 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Someone not on the current fishing list.

I hope it's not Campbell. The guy who went 35-15 at Toledo is now 46-42 at Iowa St. That's trending in the wrong direction. A big meh IMO. Realistically, why would he leave one B12 school for another? How many coaches jump ship within the same conference?

Happens all the time in the SEC or it seems like it.

Do you have any recent examples? I'm talking head coaches and not assistants. If it happens it is rare indeed.

Dan Mullen is the only direct sec to sec school (at least in recent memory). i think there's usually a detour involved. Hugh Freeze, Lane Kiffin, Houston Nutt back in the day (ircc), Spurrier.
 
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I think they go back for another OSU guy: Hartline.
 
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KERRY COMBS !!!!

AHAHAHAHAHA!!! I can't believe none of you have pulled out that old favorite yet!!

AHAHHAHAHAHA... huh? ...say what? ... he is?... you're kidding.
 
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But seriously folks...

I have no idea who to get. There's really no obvious target out there.

I again reiterate my hope for Priiime Tiiiiime. I'd like to see what anyone who can convince the top recruit in the nation to go to Jackson State con do here.
 
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Brian Hartline or the Mad Russian Alex Golesh are my early guesses.

Wildcard is Tim Albin from OU. Won an NAIA championship as a head coach. Just won the MAC in his second season at OU. Previous coaching experience at OU under Solich so he's spent some time in Ohio.
 
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(11-29-2022 08:33 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  But seriously folks...

I have no idea who to get. There's really no obvious target out there.

I again reiterate my hope for Priiime Tiiiiime. I'd like to see what anyone who can convince the top recruit in the nation to go to Jackson State con do here.


Bolded, that fact alone makes him an intriguing candidate.

I still believe we'll have a coach by week's end. I trust Cunningham's methods and judgment. Few here were predicting Wes Miller for basketball. We may be surprised again.
 
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Prime Time would be very exciting.

My prediction is Brian Hartline
1) Ohio ties
2) Offensive
3) Likely not making the playoff and can start soon
 
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(11-29-2022 08:48 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  Prime Time would be very exciting.

My prediction is Brian Hartline
1) Ohio ties
2) Offensive
3) Likely not making the playoff and can start soon

Ohio recruiting is critical and I don't think you get in the door without OSU ties (ie OSU blessing).
 
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No matter who is hired it’s going to be a rebuild. Even if Luke wax here next year was going to be ugly.

Both major sports are in rebuild mode and likely two to three years away from winning.
 
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(11-28-2022 10:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 09:51 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 08:54 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Someone not on the current fishing list.

I hope it's not Campbell. The guy who went 35-15 at Toledo is now 46-42 at Iowa St. That's trending in the wrong direction. A big meh IMO. Realistically, why would he leave one B12 school for another? How many coaches jump ship within the same conference?

He'd be going from the worst job in the big 12 that's a second fiddle program in a small state and he's been the most successful coach the last half century to a program right in his recruiting wheelhouse that's had a ton of success the last decade and a half and is about to have doors opened to it that have been closed

Kansas is the worst job. Anywho, you're higher on him than I am. Since the peak 9-3 year in 2020 Campbell is 7-6 and 4-8. Sounds like Tuberville to me.

UC fans are constantly seeing Tuberville ghosts when they don't exist. No hire is a slam dunk, but the Tuberville comparison here is a terrible one. This isn't some old, previously fired, about to get run out of another job coach in retirement mode that would rather play golf than coach. It's also not the CEO hands off coach. Not every coach with experience in a power conference is Tommy Tuberville. Campbell is young, driven and looking to succeed at a high level.

Rath pointed out if there was someone with Saban's Michigan State resume he'd take him in a heartbeat. That's basically what Campbell's resume was two years ago. We'd be buying low after one bad year at a job where the margins are really small.

My biggest pet peeve with when fans evaluate coaches is they never seem to give any weight to the degree of difficulty of the job. It's why Bill Snyder, for example, is absurdly underrated by fans from a historical perspective.

I get that not everyone is going to agree with this perspective but my belief that Campbell would be an incredible hire stems from this. I think you get the highest floor of any of the coaches available but you don't sacrifice the ceiling.

We know Campbell can coach. We know he won at an incredibly difficult job. At the very worse I think he'd approximate his success from Iowa State (which isn't what I want, but again, I see that as his floor here).

What's also true is the guy is a 3 time Big 12 coach of the year in 7 seasons. Others understand what a difficult job Iowa State is and these rewards reflect that. He had been one of the most prominent up and coming names in college football. What if the thing he needed was a job that tapped into his strenghts.

Fickell waited at UC because he knew his strength in recruiting was his Midwest ties and wanted a job that fit his strengths. He wasn't jumping to better perceived jobs or other P5 jobs that would be higher risk. Campbell is an Ohio guy, with Ohio recruiting ties. People have undervalued the strength of the UC job and the advantages it gives a coach for too long. What if people were right about Campbell being a potentially elite coach and UC is the place to tap into it.

(Fickell was a 6-7 coach at one of the best programs in college football when basically every year before and after him was 10+ wins per season. We hired him. it worked)

Looking at the alternatives:

Hartline is major upside, but a huge unknown as a head coach (having only been a position coach / with some additional duties) so the floor is low.

Herman I'm open too but to me he has a reasonably similar resume to Campbell but fewer Ohio connections, has been out of coaching, and has a lot more baggage.

Coach Prime is unequivocally the biggest upside guy. I actually think his floor is higher than the assistants were looking at and would love if he got a serious look.

So again. I like Campbell. He's the guy I want most at this point. I like him because I believe he is high floor without sacrificing upside potential.
 
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Well, I didn't say HE WAS Tuberville. That said, we got burned badly from the Riverboat Rambler and forgive some of us that don't want to see us go backwards again. Here's Campbell's record at Iowa St...

3-9
8-5
8-5
7-6
9-3
7-6
4-8

The 9-3 season was his best finishing #9 in the Final AP Poll and beating a ranked Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl. He hasn't finished in the Final AP Poll in any of the other six seasons at Iowa St and is 1-3 in the other participation bowls. That sure does sound like a Tommy Tuberville resume Mark. What I'd rather see is a guy who is building the trajectory of success and sustaining it. I admit, I don't follow Iowa St but they sure have fallen off since the 9-3 season. Campbell seems like a "safe, comfy" pick but I think we can do better. Again, I would be surprised he would leave Iowa St for a newbie program that's going to take a few lumps as it gets up to speed in the B12. This is my opinion only and I agree there's sure are a lot of 'em right now and we all can't be right.
 
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BearcatMark HC
Rath - OC
Hawk - DC
BearcatMan - ST
UC 1992 - Video Coordinator
RingOfBlack - Guy who keeps Rath off the field
 
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(11-29-2022 09:43 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  BearcatMark HC
Rath - OC
Hawk - DC
BearcatMan - ST
UC 1992 - Video Coordinator
RingOfBlack - Guy who keeps Rath off the field

Billy_Bearcat - HYPE MAN!!
 
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(11-29-2022 09:45 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 09:43 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  BearcatMark HC
Rath - OC
Hawk - DC
BearcatMan - ST
UC 1992 - Video Coordinator
RingOfBlack - Guy who keeps Rath off the field

Billy_Bearcat - HYPE MAN!!

I can't wait for Billy's pregame speeches.

"Guys I know we're probably going to lose. This is Cincinnati after-all. But I believe in you! Just not as much as I believe our town is cursed. But try to prove me wrong. Win this game! Win this game, and I'll never doubt you again... at least until next week. Go Bearcats!"
 
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Nick Saban have anyone else in his coaching tree ready for a shot?

Billy - Can I be Recruiting Coordinator?
 
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(11-29-2022 09:48 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 09:45 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 09:43 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  BearcatMark HC
Rath - OC
Hawk - DC
BearcatMan - ST
UC 1992 - Video Coordinator
RingOfBlack - Guy who keeps Rath off the field

Billy_Bearcat - HYPE MAN!!

I can't wait for Billy's pregame speeches.

"Guys I know we're probably going to lose. This is Cincinnati after-all. But I believe in you! Just not as much as I believe our town is cursed. But try to prove me wrong. Win this game! Win this game, and I'll never doubt you again... at least until next week. Go Bearcats!"

That sounds a little too upbeat for my liking
 
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(11-29-2022 09:39 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  ^^^^
What I'd rather see is a guy who is building the trajectory of success and sustaining it. I admit, I don't follow Iowa St but they sure have fallen off since the 9-3 season. Campbell seems like a "safe, comfy" pick but I think we can do better.

You see what he did at Iowa State and see it as his ceiling. I see it, and view it as his floor (worst case scenario) at UC.

Such is the nature of differing views in a coaching search.
 
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(11-29-2022 09:52 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  Nick Saban have anyone else in his coaching tree ready for a shot?

Billy - Can I be Recruiting Coordinator?

Depends on your network of SEC “hosts”
 
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(11-29-2022 09:53 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 09:52 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  Nick Saban have anyone else in his coaching tree ready for a shot?

Billy - Can I be Recruiting Coordinator?

Depends on your network of SEC “hosts”

Just found this:

The Nick Saban Coaching Tree
Name Head coaching job Years Record
Curt Cignetti Indiana University (Penn.) 2011-15 43-15
Mark Dantonio Cincinnati, Michigan State 2004-6, 2007-13 87-32
Derek Dooley Louisiana Tech, Tennessee 2007-10, 2010-12 32-41
Jimbo Fisher Florida State 2010-13 68-13
Jason Garrett Cowboys (NFL) 2011-13 44-39
Mike Haywood Miami (Ohio), Texas Southern 2009-10, 2016 10-15
Scott Linehan Rams (NFL) 2006-08 11-25
Jim McElwain Colorado State, Florida 2012-14, 2015 32-19
Mike Mularkey Jaguars, Titans (NFL) 2012, 2015 3-17 (17-32)
Will Muschamp Florida, South Carolina 2011-14, 2016 28-21
Dan Quinn Falcons (NFL) 2015 6-6
Pat Shurmur Browns (NFL) 2011-12 9-23
Kirby Smart Georgia 2016 0-0
Bobby Williams Michigan State 2000-02 16-17


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2596...ching-tree
 
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