(12-06-2022 12:32 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe a Louisville football coach has stayed there for more than 5 years in the last 50 years.

If I'm seeing this correctly, the last UofL coach to stay with the program more than five years was the venerable and mustachioed Ward Schnellenberger (1985-1994).

(12-06-2022 09:20 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 12:32 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe a Louisville football coach has stayed there for more than 5 years in the last 50 years.

If I'm seeing this correctly, the last UofL coach to stay with the program more than five years was the venerable and mustachioed Ward Schnellenberger (1985-1994).

You're right. I was basing it on an interview I heard with the Sports Radio guy from Louisville on the Andrew Gold radio show in Raleigh. I either misremembered or he misspoke. So to rephrase.

Only one Louisville football coach has lasted more than five years there in the last 53 years. So I'll through this out there. Might leaving the job be more about Louisville's issues than it is Satterfield's? I mean we could say a guy filing for divorce is a jerk and it's all on him. But if the wife has been married and divorced 5 times it kind of makes you reconsider doesn't it? Just throwing that out there.

(12-05-2022 08:38 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  That has to be one of the most unexpected poachings ever.

It hardly qualifies as a poaching, and it's not as surprising as people are making it out to be. It's called getting a new job before you get fired from your current job. This really isn't that uncommon of an event, either in football or in other businesses. I wouldn't be surprised if Louisville completely waived his buyout and agreed to let him leave for $0.00. (In order to avoid a situation where Louisville would be owing him tens of millions of dollars after firing him a year from now.)

(12-06-2022 09:20 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 12:32 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe a Louisville football coach has stayed there for more than 5 years in the last 50 years.

If I'm seeing this correctly, the last UofL coach to stay with the program more than five years was the venerable and mustachioed Ward Schnellenberger (1985-1994).

Meh, that's not really that uncommon outside of some destination type positions over the years. At Cincinnati the only coach to stay beyond Fickell's six years in the modern era was Rick Minter (1994-2003) and that was because UC did not invest enough money into football to fire him. It wasn't really into the early 2000s that UC started putting money into football. The last coach at your Vanderbilt Commodores to stay for more than 5 years was George MacIntyre (1979-85).

(12-06-2022 11:49 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 09:20 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 12:32 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe a Louisville football coach has stayed there for more than 5 years in the last 50 years.

If I'm seeing this correctly, the last UofL coach to stay with the program more than five years was the venerable and mustachioed Ward Schnellenberger (1985-1994).

Meh, that's not really that uncommon outside of some destination type positions over the years. At Cincinnati the only coach to stay beyond Fickell's six years in the modern era was Rick Minter (1994-2003) and that was because UC did not invest enough money into football to fire him. It wasn't really into the early 2000s that UC started putting money into football. The last coach at your Vanderbilt Commodores to stay for more than 5 years was George MacIntyre (1979-85).

I recall both the MacIntyre and Minter years well. And you make a good point about longevity.

The fact that VU coach Clark Lea is a Vanderbilt gran and a Nashville native gives me hope he will stick around for many years (and that the university will be more lenient with him for lean years than would otherwise be the case with an "outsider").

(12-06-2022 11:37 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  Only one Louisville football coach has lasted more than five years there in the last 53 years. So I'll through this out there. Might leaving the job be more about Louisville's issues than it is Satterfield's? I mean we could say a guy filing for divorce is a jerk and it's all on him. But if the wife has been married and divorced 5 times it kind of makes you reconsider doesn't it? Just throwing that out there.

You could easily spin it the other way though. Rather than think Louisville hires good coaches and ruins them, you could argue Louisville simply is hiring bad coaches and Satterfield is simply the latest in a long line of bad hires.

The reality is that it varies and each hire has to be evaluated on its own. As has been stated, it's not really that unusual. There are some bad hires in there that Louisville had to fire, but also some other hires that excelled enough (or at least fooled people into thinking they did well) to jump to a better job elsewhere (Petrino and Strong jump to mind). I think it's the inherent issue with most mid-tier jobs. If you're bad, you get fired. And it you're good, you probably jump to a "better" job elsewhere. To stick around, you seemingly have to walk the Goldilocks line of "just right".

(12-07-2022 10:06 AM)Jericho Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:37 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  Only one Louisville football coach has lasted more than five years there in the last 53 years. So I'll through this out there. Might leaving the job be more about Louisville's issues than it is Satterfield's? I mean we could say a guy filing for divorce is a jerk and it's all on him. But if the wife has been married and divorced 5 times it kind of makes you reconsider doesn't it? Just throwing that out there.

You could easily spin it the other way though. Rather than think Louisville hires good coaches and ruins them, you could argue Louisville simply is hiring bad coaches and Satterfield is simply the latest in a long line of bad hires.

The reality is that it varies and each hire has to be evaluated on its own. As has been stated, it's not really that unusual. There are some bad hires in there that Louisville had to fire, but also some other hires that excelled enough (or at least fooled people into thinking they did well) to jump to a better job elsewhere (Petrino and Strong jump to mind). I think it's the inherent issue with most mid-tier jobs. If you're bad, you get fired. And it you're good, you probably jump to a "better" job elsewhere. To stick around, you seemingly have to walk the Goldilocks line of "just right".

Well ... bigger jobs poached Louisville coaches that did well at Louisville.

Schnelly - left for Oklahoma.
Cooper - fired for su*king balls.
John L Smith - left for Michigan State
Bobby Petrino - left for the Atlanta Falcons
Steve Kragthorpe - fired for su*king balls.
Charlie Strong - left for Texas
Bobby P part 2 - fired for su*king balls
Satterfield - left for Cincy

This history goes against the spin that U of L hires bad coaches.

Satt wasn't a good fit ... and Satt probably knew that as early as year one (where he was named ACC Coach of the Year).


I hope he does well in Cincy. He's a nice guy. He clearly had success at App State. And he wasn't awful here.


Rather than be forced to fire him, we get $3.5 million from Cincy to watch him go.

That's a win-win.