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RE: Alabama or Ohio St-who’s number 5?
(12-07-2022 09:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(12-06-2022 01:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Yes, and that's too bad, because it means that we get depleted rosters for the other NY6 games, when those used to be battle royales.

There is just so much money at stake for kids entering the NFL draft, it's hard to justify getting the best ones to risk it all for an exhibition game. More CFP games is the answer, if the games matter then the players can improve their draft stock and help the team at the same time.

I agree about the exhibition game thing. If I was an NFL-talent (LOL), I would very likely skip any non-playoff game.

But I am not so sure about expanded playoffs. I think it is quite possible that top NFL prospects may decide to skip the 12-team playoffs. They could have agents and family members telling them that playing three or four playoff games is just too risky, and they might be right.

So it wouldn't surprise me if this happens and we get playoff opt-outs starting in 2024.

They'd be on the big stage. A top prospect wouldn't pass that up. They could get injured. It could also skyrocket their value.

It would be very, very rare.

Thing is, most of the top NFL prospects, the ones who we want to play in playoff games because they are usually the guys who make their teams exceptional, already know their NFL value. For them, games beyond the season are all downside, IMO. Sure, you're going to have guys who are eager to play to showcase themselves and improve their draft stock, but by definition those are guys who probably aren't as good. The Trevor Lawrence's and Joe Burrow's and Bryce Young's already are solidified.

It's one reason why I am not enthused about the 12-team playoff. IMO, the current CFP stays on the "play" side of the risk/reward metric for a top player. But three or four games stretches it, maybe beyond breaking point. Yes, they are all hungry competitors, committed to their team and eager to win a national championship. But then there is the NFL situation.

We're going to find out, one way or the other.

Show up on the big stage and you may still be selling Wendy's hamburgers 15-20 years later. There is huge value in being in the playoffs.
12-07-2022 11:13 AM
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RE: Alabama or Ohio St-who’s number 5?
(12-07-2022 11:13 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(12-07-2022 09:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-06-2022 07:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(12-06-2022 07:10 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-06-2022 02:14 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  There is just so much money at stake for kids entering the NFL draft, it's hard to justify getting the best ones to risk it all for an exhibition game. More CFP games is the answer, if the games matter then the players can improve their draft stock and help the team at the same time.

I agree about the exhibition game thing. If I was an NFL-talent (LOL), I would very likely skip any non-playoff game.

But I am not so sure about expanded playoffs. I think it is quite possible that top NFL prospects may decide to skip the 12-team playoffs. They could have agents and family members telling them that playing three or four playoff games is just too risky, and they might be right.

So it wouldn't surprise me if this happens and we get playoff opt-outs starting in 2024.

They'd be on the big stage. A top prospect wouldn't pass that up. They could get injured. It could also skyrocket their value.

It would be very, very rare.

Thing is, most of the top NFL prospects, the ones who we want to play in playoff games because they are usually the guys who make their teams exceptional, already know their NFL value. For them, games beyond the season are all downside, IMO. Sure, you're going to have guys who are eager to play to showcase themselves and improve their draft stock, but by definition those are guys who probably aren't as good. The Trevor Lawrence's and Joe Burrow's and Bryce Young's already are solidified.

It's one reason why I am not enthused about the 12-team playoff. IMO, the current CFP stays on the "play" side of the risk/reward metric for a top player. But three or four games stretches it, maybe beyond breaking point. Yes, they are all hungry competitors, committed to their team and eager to win a national championship. But then there is the NFL situation.

We're going to find out, one way or the other.

Show up on the big stage and you may still be selling Wendy's hamburgers 15-20 years later. There is huge value in being in the playoffs.

Or almost become a US Senator.
12-07-2022 11:35 AM
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RE: Alabama or Ohio St-who’s number 5?
(12-07-2022 09:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  ... It's one reason why I am not enthused about the 12-team playoff. IMO, the current CFP stays on the "play" side of the risk/reward metric for a top player. But three or four games stretches it, maybe beyond breaking point. Yes, they are all hungry competitors, committed to their team and eager to win a national championship. But then there is the NFL situation.

We're going to find out, one way or the other.

An interesting question here is the extent to which four games stretches it beyond the breaking point for more players than three games, leading to the top four going into the CFP bracket with not only a bye, but also with more of the talent that brought them into the CFP bracket than some of the first round schools.

Time will indeed tell, which is another reason to be dubious about confident predictions about what happens after the next CFP contract.
12-07-2022 12:50 PM
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