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RE: Silverfield isn’t a bad coach
(11-30-2022 03:23 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  A bigger statistic, can Memphis afford this burden/hypothesis from a financial/revenue perspective...who's analyzing that particular dynamic. By the time someone looks up, it may be FLATLINE...This is very serious :rivals:Fans will NOT favor/respond well to this schedule of opponents, even if Silvernuts makes an improvement to 8-3;9-2. His "methodology" is 03-zzz 03-yawn asF

Translation layman's terms; To whatever degree this team improves over the next 24 months (even if it does happen) will be TOTALLY IRRELEVANT...The longer the INEVITABLE drags on....the greater the impact of recovery "IF" recovery will even be possible....This could very well be DOA. As well as, we could lose 1 cent in the process....He doesn't favor this admin one iota......We are "officially" in BARNEY

Haha. That's a scenario not a stat. Yes that might happen. But if he gets better as a coach then he will likely own the new conference and earn a bid in the expanded playoff. That's about all we can ask for until the next possible round of conference expansion.

(11-30-2022 03:31 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  With next years schedule the equivalent of playing the BIG K--Millington--Collierville--Germantown--Bartlett--Meirose -----we could/can actually regress in all areas and win more games

That unfortunately may be true as well.
11-30-2022 03:47 PM
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RE: Silverfield isn’t a bad coach
(11-30-2022 03:00 PM)Alanda Wrote:  ...and in a number that might surprise just about everybody (me included), we were 8th in the country in Special Teams.

These are the seven teams ranked above Memphis in Special Teams.

1. South Carolina
2. Arkansas State (finished 107th Overall)
3. Georgia
4. Miami (76th Overall)
5. Iowa
6. Ohio State
7. Maryland

To me all of this says that for us to be successful next season we have to ask "Will Silverfield learn from his past mistakes and improve on his decision making?" If yes we will be really good. If no we will struggle and likely underperform again.

For ST rankings, there has to be a heavy emphasis on placekicking and punting. We had 2 good kickers/punters. But our actual TEAM play on ST was not good. Messed up on-side kicks going and coming. Bad returns, until late in the season. Spotty coverage - including at least one return for a td. And kickoffs OOB. Our kickers were great and I'm happy about that. But I don't give the ST a lot of credit for that - it was individual performance between the long snapper and the kickers.

As for Ryan learning from his mistakes, I said that last year after Arky State, UTSA, Temple, and ECU. He didn't.
12-01-2022 09:59 AM
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RE: Silverfield isn’t a bad coach
(12-01-2022 09:59 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 03:00 PM)Alanda Wrote:  ...and in a number that might surprise just about everybody (me included), we were 8th in the country in Special Teams.

These are the seven teams ranked above Memphis in Special Teams.

1. South Carolina
2. Arkansas State (finished 107th Overall)
3. Georgia
4. Miami (76th Overall)
5. Iowa
6. Ohio State
7. Maryland

To me all of this says that for us to be successful next season we have to ask "Will Silverfield learn from his past mistakes and improve on his decision making?" If yes we will be really good. If no we will struggle and likely underperform again.

[/iFor ST rankings, there has to be a heavy emphasis on placekicking and punting. We had 2 good kickers/punters. But our actual TEAM play on ST was not good. Messed up on-side kicks going and coming. Bad returns, until late in the season. Spotty coverage - including at least one return for a td. And kickoffs OOB. Our kickers were great and I'm happy about that. But I don't give the ST a lot of credit for that - it was individual performance between the long snapper and the kickers.

As for Ryan learning from his mistakes, I said that last year after Arky State, UTSA, Temple, and ECU. He didn't.

Gr8 analysis Tiger87....Without going into detail.I do believe that it's his philosophy that get in the way. A coaches philosoohy is basically akin to dna....It's a non-changeable element. That being said, those whom are expecting change...well, you know the rest...We must make the change, Memphis as a whole...
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12-01-2022 10:17 AM
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(11-30-2022 03:00 PM)Alanda Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 12:29 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I haven't read every post within this thread. And I'll acknowledge CRS offers various flaws.

But Memphis finished No. 5 nationally in penalties, with a mere 4.0 penalities per game (that is outstanding). And the team did well with turnovers (in the top one-third of the 131 FBS programs).

"Good coaching" can be partly attributed to minimal penalties and turnovers.

And that's part of the problem. Looking at certain statistics this year's team underperformed record-wise which helps show that coaching decisions were a major problem.

In FEI, we finished the regular season 58th Overall, 53rd Offense, 57th Defense (unexpectedly the .08 is the same as the defense for 2019 team), and 49th in Net Drives. These numbers will update again after the bowl game, so that's also why I am posting what they are now. There are also stats that looked at how many losses a team at certain deviations above an average team would have against the same schedule. GLS for a team one standard deviation above average would have around two losses with our schedule and we had six this year. Using 2019 again the GLS was around three and we had two losses so we outperformed the GLS that season.

SP+ released rankings for all FBS team. Memphis was 49th Overall, 27th Offense, 89th Defense, and in a number that might surprise just about everybody (me included), we were 8th in the country in Special Teams.

These are the seven teams ranked above Memphis in Special Teams.

1. South Carolina
2. Arkansas State (finished 107th Overall)
3. Georgia
4. Miami (76th Overall)
5. Iowa
6. Ohio State
7. Maryland

To me all of this says that for us to be successful next season we have to ask "Will Silverfield learn from his past mistakes and improve on his decision making?" If yes we will be really good. If no we will struggle and likely underperform again.

All good points (and some interesting stats).

Agree.
12-01-2022 01:41 PM
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(12-01-2022 09:59 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 03:00 PM)Alanda Wrote:  ...and in a number that might surprise just about everybody (me included), we were 8th in the country in Special Teams.

These are the seven teams ranked above Memphis in Special Teams.

1. South Carolina
2. Arkansas State (finished 107th Overall)
3. Georgia
4. Miami (76th Overall)
5. Iowa
6. Ohio State
7. Maryland

To me all of this says that for us to be successful next season we have to ask "Will Silverfield learn from his past mistakes and improve on his decision making?" If yes we will be really good. If no we will struggle and likely underperform again.

For ST rankings, there has to be a heavy emphasis on placekicking and punting. We had 2 good kickers/punters. But our actual TEAM play on ST was not good. Messed up on-side kicks going and coming. Bad returns, until late in the season. Spotty coverage - including at least one return for a td. And kickoffs OOB. Our kickers were great and I'm happy about that. But I don't give the ST a lot of credit for that - it was individual performance between the long snapper and the kickers.

As for Ryan learning from his mistakes, I said that last year after Arky State, UTSA, Temple, and ECU. He didn't.

Yeah without knowing the formula we don't know what is included and how things are weighted. For me I wondered if returns, extra points, and field goals had more weight than coverage. When I looked it up we are actually 12th in the country in kickoff return average, tied for 8th in field goals made, and tied for 20th in FG%. With our coverage issues it made me think that SP+ must not weight what teams give up as much as returns, or it's not in the formula at all. I agree about the individual performance. Our punter is currently tied for 4th in punting average with 46.7 yards per punt and only six schools are over 46 per kick. 1st is at 48.8.

And the learning is definitely a concern. Like at times he gets too stubborn and would rather double-down on certain things to try and prove they can work instead of properly adapting. One of the biggest culprits might be what you pointed out before and that's the change in offensive philosophy. Statistically it seems pretty sound, but I think it helps create, if not outright causes these "unlucky" situations some talk about. His approach to offense is the first area that needs changing if he wants a shot at a successful season. The defense improved a lot over the season, so hopefully that continues.
12-01-2022 05:24 PM
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