(11-28-2022 09:42 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 02:01 PM)micman Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:48 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:33 PM)micman Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 03:05 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Year 5 he should at least be consistent. There’s no reason he shouldn’t be able to hit an open jumper 30% of the time or a free throw 80% of the time. That’s all I want from him. And to make smart decisions and not throw lobs on a fast break when a bounce pass would do the trick. But I guess every game this season will be an indictment on Alo good or bad. It’s easier to criticize Joe Jackson on here than it is Lomax. I don’t get that and never will.

Joe Jackson had just as many things to criticize as Lomax.

Joe Jackson? the guy that MADE Paster? The guy that almost single handedly won us a conference tournament championship and an NCAA berth.
Really?

Yes, that Joe Jackson. And that was the problem: those 3 games in El Paso as a freshman were the high point of his career. If the criticism of Lomax is that he hasn't improved over 4+ years of college, then that same argument applies as to why people were equally frustrated with Jackson. I attribute both of their lacks of apparent improvement over their careers to coaching.

I would love for Penny to have had a Joe Jackson at point. I think Josh slowed Joe down and made Joe think to much. Penny would have let him loose. Joe ceiling is much higher than Alo. Joe had a chance to go pro. Alex never had that potential.

Lomax has a ceiling. No matter how many jumpers he's shot in the summer, he never would be a dead eye shooter. People say that he didn't improved but Joe shot over 40% from 3 in his jr year. Lomax shot 36% his sophomore year. Lomax gets into trouble if he tries to shot the 3 off the dribble. If he shots it when the shot shows instead of hesitating he would shot a higher percentage. He's a better spot shooter than off the dribble. Lomax is not a scorer. Look at his layup package vs Kendric Davis. He can't use both hands or make layup over size as good as KD. He's pressing because he wants to be KD but he doesn't have that ability. You can tell because he's even missing free throws he normally hit. If he just be himself, he can be more productive.

This is spot on and always been my largest frustration with Alo. When he plays within himself and within his skill set he can be a very productive player. Unfortunately, he sees himself as a top flight NBA point guard but simply does not posses the skill set or even close to it. He is a backup point guard that can defend and stabilize a second unit and he could be very effective at that.

The truth is though that as long as he and Jayden are starting and playing significant minutes then this team has a very definitive ceiling to it...

Joe Jackson's senior year
14 pts 4.5 ast 3.6 rbs 2.1 tov

Alex Lomax
6 pts 4.1 ast 3.1 rbs 2.5 tov

(11-29-2022 09:22 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 02:01 PM)micman Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:48 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:33 PM)micman Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 03:05 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Year 5 he should at least be consistent. There’s no reason he shouldn’t be able to hit an open jumper 30% of the time or a free throw 80% of the time. That’s all I want from him. And to make smart decisions and not throw lobs on a fast break when a bounce pass would do the trick. But I guess every game this season will be an indictment on Alo good or bad. It’s easier to criticize Joe Jackson on here than it is Lomax. I don’t get that and never will.

Joe Jackson had just as many things to criticize as Lomax.

Joe Jackson? the guy that MADE Paster? The guy that almost single handedly won us a conference tournament championship and an NCAA berth.
Really?

Yes, that Joe Jackson. And that was the problem: those 3 games in El Paso as a freshman were the high point of his career. If the criticism of Lomax is that he hasn't improved over 4+ years of college, then that same argument applies as to why people were equally frustrated with Jackson. I attribute both of their lacks of apparent improvement over their careers to coaching.

Then you fell asleep after those games in El Paso. JJ made major jumps year to year with the exception of this three point shooting from his Junior to Senior year.

I am not comparing the skillset of Joe Jackson to Alo. I am talking about the frustration level with those teams (and the criticism, both fair and unfair) that was directed at Joe back then is comparable to the criticism directed at Alo now.

Yes, he was very good his junior year. I think Pastner made a mistake bringing in Dixon; it messed up the on-court chemistry; especially with Joe; that tainted his senior year.

Fair or unfair, Joe had the expectations of a high 5-star, McDonalds All American. Although being a higher ranked prospect out of high school, he was outshined by Shabazz Napier, Nic Moore, Peyton Siva, and Russ Smith in the AAC (I'm aware Siva never played in the AAC, but he kicked our butt the year before).

(11-27-2022 11:48 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  The objective of those who criticize is to assert their own opinion...it's not to help Lomax or the team improve or correct their mistakes.

Serial Criticizers take advantage of every life opportunity to criticize.

https://psychology-spot.com/people-who-c...r%20goals.

• Anxious attachment style. They are people with low self-esteem, with a tendency to apprehension and difficulties to communicate assertively their emotional needs, so they resort to criticism and drama to achieve their goals.

Bottom line...Life is short, people. Don't criticize yours away.

Textbook.

(11-28-2022 02:01 PM)micman Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:48 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:33 PM)micman Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 03:05 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 02:11 PM)steves Wrote:  Jesus man ... your just stuck in the mud aren't you. Need a tow truck ?

Year 5 he should at least be consistent. There’s no reason he shouldn’t be able to hit an open jumper 30% of the time or a free throw 80% of the time. That’s all I want from him. And to make smart decisions and not throw lobs on a fast break when a bounce pass would do the trick. But I guess every game this season will be an indictment on Alo good or bad. It’s easier to criticize Joe Jackson on here than it is Lomax. I don’t get that and never will.

Joe Jackson had just as many things to criticize as Lomax.

Joe Jackson? the guy that MADE Paster? The guy that almost single handedly won us a conference tournament championship and an NCAA berth.
Really?

Yes, that Joe Jackson. And that was the problem: those 3 games in El Paso as a freshman were the high point of his career. If the criticism of Lomax is that he hasn't improved over 4+ years of college, then that same argument applies as to why people were equally frustrated with Jackson. I attribute both of their lacks of apparent improvement over their careers to coaching.

Joe Jackson had one of the top 10 seasons all time for any Memphis point guard, as a junior. Easily one of the most underrated seasons in our entire history.

13.6 PTS
4.8 AST
2.8 TO
51.9% FG
44.7% 3PT
1.7 STL

Joe Jackson improved every single season as a point guard. The only reason he didn't have a spectacular senior season is because he lost his shooting touch from outside.

He is also a perfect example of how the board psychos will try to change the facts to support their narrative. They hated Pastner so they do JJ the disservice and lack of respect to say that he never improved, when obviously he did.

(11-29-2022 10:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 02:01 PM)micman Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:48 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:33 PM)micman Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 03:05 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Year 5 he should at least be consistent. There’s no reason he shouldn’t be able to hit an open jumper 30% of the time or a free throw 80% of the time. That’s all I want from him. And to make smart decisions and not throw lobs on a fast break when a bounce pass would do the trick. But I guess every game this season will be an indictment on Alo good or bad. It’s easier to criticize Joe Jackson on here than it is Lomax. I don’t get that and never will.

Joe Jackson had just as many things to criticize as Lomax.

Joe Jackson? the guy that MADE Paster? The guy that almost single handedly won us a conference tournament championship and an NCAA berth.
Really?

Yes, that Joe Jackson. And that was the problem: those 3 games in El Paso as a freshman were the high point of his career. If the criticism of Lomax is that he hasn't improved over 4+ years of college, then that same argument applies as to why people were equally frustrated with Jackson. I attribute both of their lacks of apparent improvement over their careers to coaching.

Joe Jackson had one of the top 10 seasons all time for any Memphis point guard, as a junior. Easily one of the most underrated seasons in our entire history.

13.6 PTS
4.8 AST
2.8 TO
51.9% FG
44.7% 3PT
1.7 STL

Joe Jackson improved every single season as a point guard. The only reason he didn't have a spectacular senior season is because he lost his shooting touch from outside.

He is also a perfect example of how the board psychos will try to change the facts to support their narrative. They hated Pastner so they do JJ the disservice and lack of respect to say that he never improved, when obviously he did.

JJ clearly improved year over and year and continues to be one of the most underappreciated Tigers of all time...

JJ -
PPG - 9.9, 11.0, 13.6, 14.1
Assists - 3.1, 3.8, 4.8, 4.5


Alo -
PPG - 5.1, 6.7, 6.0, 6.1
Assists - 2.5, 4.3, 4.2, 4.1

And again, this is not meant to be anti-Alo. But it is just he is who he is and that is pretty much the same player he was the day he stepped on the court. A serviceable backup PG that should be playing 12-14 minutes per game in a support role.

Joe was fearless. How about that block lol over the Zag monster to turn the tide of the game...!!!
Pastner bringing in the questionable kid from mizzou was the downfall of JJ's last year--throwing him in with our established great guards. Chemistry collapsed. Other Student sections chanting at our team during away games..'NO Means NO! That was horribly distracting and a bit too real.

Joe was taking care of his family all that time too, trying so hard to play in U.S. when he graduated. Wishing him the best now and forever!

what brand of basketball does memphis use for home games ?

i noticed they were using a spaulding ball in orlando

(11-29-2022 05:43 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  what brand of basketball does memphis use for home games ?

i noticed they were using a spaulding ball in Orlando

Memphis uses Nike elite basketballs at home

Seemed like the Spaulding balls didn’t bounce very well for the players