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RE: Thamel: Auburn in discussions with Hugh Freeze
(11-26-2022 06:51 PM)Dawgpile Wrote:  
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(11-26-2022 01:50 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  Art Briles did what many successful coaches have done in the past, he tried to keep his best players on the field and win games. He didn't do anything illegal, and he certainly didn't stoop to the level of some (like Paterno as one example). Heck, Bear Bryant nearly killed about 20 Aggies at Junction and he's celebrated as a hero for it, if he'd done that in the days of cell phone cameras and the internet he'd be a pariah.

Briles' problem is not what he did, but rather the transparent and robust investigation bringing all of his dirty laundry out into the light of day. I'm not defending him, but I do think it's reasonable to evaluate his behavior in comparison to his peers. Inflict a similar investigation on every single P5 coach today and there would be a lot of people getting similarly blackballed.

As far as head coaching opportunities for Briles? There won't be any in the SEC unless/until he rehabilitates elsewhere, and nobody elsewhere is giving him a chance. Throw in his age...I think he's done.

...well, Liberty may well be in the market for a new coach soon, so... never say nevah... 03-phew

I don't know. I mean, Freeze was pretty toxic when they hired him, but Briles is radioactive. After Falwell's sex scandal, I'd think that Liberty would prefer something with a whole lot less baggage.

I think they want to win and be prominent more than they want to live out the values they profess, but you may be right and post-Jerry Jr. likes to watch they might be more skittish of a toxic coach than previously. If they go with Briles or anyone else tainted (what's Bobby Petrino doing?), I expect they'll play up the forgiveness and redemption angle again. That may work for them with their alumni & fans unless and until they get a coach who doesn't straighten up the way Freeze did...

Freeze hasn't straightened up... https://www.outkick.com/hugh-freeze-aubu...ult-email/

"He's the most Jesus-like leader I have had" is all that I found after 5 minutes of searching...this is literally nothing, even for a guy with questionable ethics like Freeze.
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RE: Thamel: Auburn in discussions with Hugh Freeze
(11-27-2022 09:25 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 06:51 PM)Dawgpile Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 06:03 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 04:42 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 02:22 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  ...well, Liberty may well be in the market for a new coach soon, so... never say nevah... 03-phew

I don't know. I mean, Freeze was pretty toxic when they hired him, but Briles is radioactive. After Falwell's sex scandal, I'd think that Liberty would prefer something with a whole lot less baggage.

I think they want to win and be prominent more than they want to live out the values they profess, but you may be right and post-Jerry Jr. likes to watch they might be more skittish of a toxic coach than previously. If they go with Briles or anyone else tainted (what's Bobby Petrino doing?), I expect they'll play up the forgiveness and redemption angle again. That may work for them with their alumni & fans unless and until they get a coach who doesn't straighten up the way Freeze did...

Freeze hasn't straightened up... https://www.outkick.com/hugh-freeze-aubu...ult-email/

"He's the most Jesus-like leader I have had" is all that I found after 5 minutes of searching...this is literally nothing, even for a guy with questionable ethics like Freeze.

The AD and President have been flooded with emails and twitter messages threatening to let season tickets and donations go if Freeze is hired. An e-letter from a liberty coed who was raped (not by Freeze), and won a lawsuit against Liberty, has gone viral after she alleged Freeze has been DM'ing her, and that internal investigations are going on at Liberty. I initially saw an article which I believe came from AL.com. When I searched it to post a link I could no longer find it. The coeds name I believe is Chelsea Andrews and you can find that. I edited this portion of the post in an effort to remain accurate to the latest available information.

I know of interest in someone whose name has not been dropped and is not among those that Auburn bloggers and chat room hosts are lauding and tossing around. Those which the bloggers attribute to the new AD are a list of names that circle through almost every time and are very likely intended distractions. It provides great cover while serious candidates are in talks, several of which are likely involved in postseason activity whether CCG's or playoff hopefuls and will not be distracted until it's time.

My sense here is that nothing is about to happen as fast as some think.
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RE: Thamel: Auburn in discussions with Hugh Freeze
So the faction opposed to Hugh Freeze is called anti-Freeze. Perhaps there is a sponsorship with Prestone in the works.

But seriously...Hugh will not only not be the coach at Auburn, but he will be doing well to keep his job at Liberty when this all shakes out. He's toxic.
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(11-26-2022 01:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Why are these schools going after toxic coaches? There been reports Art Briles name came up as well. I don't know why these schools are so desperate to hire coaches that will be very toxic to your program.

The further down the NIL/portal road we travel, the less athletes are thought of as students. Universities no longer care, the athletes no longer care. Kids graduate early just so they sell themselves to another team, for as much as they can get.
Toxic coaches have demonstrated they will do anything to win, which has now become the most important thing about coaching. Personal development, leadership skills, and teaching how to overcoming adversity are no longer things that coaches need to be responsible for.
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RE: Thamel: Auburn in discussions with Hugh Freeze
Anyone who wants to hire Hugh Freeze should ask the question "Would you accept going on probation and not going to bowls for a year or two?" We know the answer to that question if you're Auburn. I'm sure there are schools who would gladly take a chance on Freeze. Auburn shouldn't be one of them.
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RE: Thamel: Auburn in discussions with Hugh Freeze
(11-27-2022 11:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 09:25 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 06:51 PM)Dawgpile Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 06:03 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 04:42 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  I don't know. I mean, Freeze was pretty toxic when they hired him, but Briles is radioactive. After Falwell's sex scandal, I'd think that Liberty would prefer something with a whole lot less baggage.

I think they want to win and be prominent more than they want to live out the values they profess, but you may be right and post-Jerry Jr. likes to watch they might be more skittish of a toxic coach than previously. If they go with Briles or anyone else tainted (what's Bobby Petrino doing?), I expect they'll play up the forgiveness and redemption angle again. That may work for them with their alumni & fans unless and until they get a coach who doesn't straighten up the way Freeze did...

Freeze hasn't straightened up... https://www.outkick.com/hugh-freeze-aubu...ult-email/

"He's the most Jesus-like leader I have had" is all that I found after 5 minutes of searching...this is literally nothing, even for a guy with questionable ethics like Freeze.

The AD and President have been flooded with emails and twitter messages threatening to let season tickets and donations go if Freeze is hired. An e-letter from a liberty coed who was raped (not by Freeze), and won a lawsuit against Liberty, has gone viral after she alleged Freeze has been DM'ing her, and that internal investigations are going on at Liberty. I initially saw an article which I believe came from AL.com. When I searched it to post a link I could no longer find it. The coeds name I believe is Chelsea Andrews and you can find that. I edited this portion of the post in an effort to remain accurate to the latest available information.

I know of interest in someone whose name has not been dropped and is not among those that Auburn bloggers and chat room hosts are lauding and tossing around. Those which the bloggers attribute to the new AD are a list of names that circle through almost every time and are very likely intended distractions. It provides great cover while serious candidates are in talks, several of which are likely involved in postseason activity whether CCG's or playoff hopefuls and will not be distracted until it's time.

My sense here is that nothing is about to happen as fast as some think.

Dabo. Auburn wants Dabo. Got it.


Or Gus Malzahn? 03-lmfao
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RE: Thamel: Auburn in discussions with Hugh Freeze
How about Gary Patterson? He’s probably got another 10 years in the tank.

I don’t see the Sun Belt coaches being attractive.

What about Urban Meyer? He and Bruce Pearl would throw some mean parties!
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RE: Thamel: Auburn in discussions with Hugh Freeze
(11-28-2022 05:58 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 01:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Why are these schools going after toxic coaches? There been reports Art Briles name came up as well. I don't know why these schools are so desperate to hire coaches that will be very toxic to your program.

The further down the NIL/portal road we travel, the less athletes are thought of as students. Universities no longer care, the athletes no longer care. Kids graduate early just so they sell themselves to another team, for as much as they can get.

A lot of these kids are enrolling early and taking summer classes so they can graduate early, transfer and get their masters in the same amount of time it takes the average college student to get their bachelor's degree. Athletes even have better GPAs on average than their non- athlete peers. They might be doing the right things for the wrong reasons but I hardly see it as a bad thing.
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RE: Thamel: Auburn in discussions with Hugh Freeze
(11-28-2022 08:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 11:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 09:25 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 06:51 PM)Dawgpile Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 06:03 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  I think they want to win and be prominent more than they want to live out the values they profess, but you may be right and post-Jerry Jr. likes to watch they might be more skittish of a toxic coach than previously. If they go with Briles or anyone else tainted (what's Bobby Petrino doing?), I expect they'll play up the forgiveness and redemption angle again. That may work for them with their alumni & fans unless and until they get a coach who doesn't straighten up the way Freeze did...

Freeze hasn't straightened up... https://www.outkick.com/hugh-freeze-aubu...ult-email/

"He's the most Jesus-like leader I have had" is all that I found after 5 minutes of searching...this is literally nothing, even for a guy with questionable ethics like Freeze.

The AD and President have been flooded with emails and twitter messages threatening to let season tickets and donations go if Freeze is hired. An e-letter from a liberty coed who was raped (not by Freeze), and won a lawsuit against Liberty, has gone viral after she alleged Freeze has been DM'ing her, and that internal investigations are going on at Liberty. I initially saw an article which I believe came from AL.com. When I searched it to post a link I could no longer find it. The coeds name I believe is Chelsea Andrews and you can find that. I edited this portion of the post in an effort to remain accurate to the latest available information.

I know of interest in someone whose name has not been dropped and is not among those that Auburn bloggers and chat room hosts are lauding and tossing around. Those which the bloggers attribute to the new AD are a list of names that circle through almost every time and are very likely intended distractions. It provides great cover while serious candidates are in talks, several of which are likely involved in postseason activity whether CCG's or playoff hopefuls and will not be distracted until it's time.

My sense here is that nothing is about to happen as fast as some think.

Dabo. Auburn wants Dabo. Got it.


Or Gus Malzahn? 03-lmfao

Wrong as usual, but please play again.
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(11-28-2022 08:18 AM)esayem Wrote:  How about Gary Patterson? He’s probably got another 10 years in the tank.

I don’t see the Sun Belt coaches being attractive.

What about Urban Meyer? He and Bruce Pearl would throw some mean parties!

If you want to get Pearl a wingman, hire Coach O.
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(11-28-2022 11:22 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 08:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 11:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 09:25 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 06:51 PM)Dawgpile Wrote:  Freeze hasn't straightened up... https://www.outkick.com/hugh-freeze-aubu...ult-email/

"He's the most Jesus-like leader I have had" is all that I found after 5 minutes of searching...this is literally nothing, even for a guy with questionable ethics like Freeze.

The AD and President have been flooded with emails and twitter messages threatening to let season tickets and donations go if Freeze is hired. An e-letter from a liberty coed who was raped (not by Freeze), and won a lawsuit against Liberty, has gone viral after she alleged Freeze has been DM'ing her, and that internal investigations are going on at Liberty. I initially saw an article which I believe came from AL.com. When I searched it to post a link I could no longer find it. The coeds name I believe is Chelsea Andrews and you can find that. I edited this portion of the post in an effort to remain accurate to the latest available information.

I know of interest in someone whose name has not been dropped and is not among those that Auburn bloggers and chat room hosts are lauding and tossing around. Those which the bloggers attribute to the new AD are a list of names that circle through almost every time and are very likely intended distractions. It provides great cover while serious candidates are in talks, several of which are likely involved in postseason activity whether CCG's or playoff hopefuls and will not be distracted until it's time.

My sense here is that nothing is about to happen as fast as some think.

Dabo. Auburn wants Dabo. Got it.


Or Gus Malzahn? 03-lmfao

Wrong as usual, but please play again.

I would be very surprised if it were Dykes, Bielema, or the K State coach.

Prime has been my #1 for Auburn since Harsin was fired. Technically his team is in a CCG too.
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(11-28-2022 12:13 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 11:22 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 08:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 11:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 09:25 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  "He's the most Jesus-like leader I have had" is all that I found after 5 minutes of searching...this is literally nothing, even for a guy with questionable ethics like Freeze.

The AD and President have been flooded with emails and twitter messages threatening to let season tickets and donations go if Freeze is hired. An e-letter from a liberty coed who was raped (not by Freeze), and won a lawsuit against Liberty, has gone viral after she alleged Freeze has been DM'ing her, and that internal investigations are going on at Liberty. I initially saw an article which I believe came from AL.com. When I searched it to post a link I could no longer find it. The coeds name I believe is Chelsea Andrews and you can find that. I edited this portion of the post in an effort to remain accurate to the latest available information.

I know of interest in someone whose name has not been dropped and is not among those that Auburn bloggers and chat room hosts are lauding and tossing around. Those which the bloggers attribute to the new AD are a list of names that circle through almost every time and are very likely intended distractions. It provides great cover while serious candidates are in talks, several of which are likely involved in postseason activity whether CCG's or playoff hopefuls and will not be distracted until it's time.

My sense here is that nothing is about to happen as fast as some think.

Dabo. Auburn wants Dabo. Got it.


Or Gus Malzahn? 03-lmfao

Wrong as usual, but please play again.

I would be very surprised if it were Dykes, Bielema, or the K State coach.

Prime has been my #1 for Auburn since Harsin was fired. Technically his team is in a CCG too.

Deion has not proven that he can coach, and he couldn't out-talent teams in the SEC the way he can at Jackson St. He would get destroyed by Kiffin or The Pirate, and get out-talented by bama, A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky... As a Deion fan I hope that he goes to CU or perhaps USF to keep improving, but as a regular Auburn foe I'll admit I selfishly hope they hire him.

Deion should get the UW treatment... "Not now, but not never".
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(11-28-2022 12:40 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 12:13 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 11:22 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 08:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 11:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The AD and President have been flooded with emails and twitter messages threatening to let season tickets and donations go if Freeze is hired. An e-letter from a liberty coed who was raped (not by Freeze), and won a lawsuit against Liberty, has gone viral after she alleged Freeze has been DM'ing her, and that internal investigations are going on at Liberty. I initially saw an article which I believe came from AL.com. When I searched it to post a link I could no longer find it. The coeds name I believe is Chelsea Andrews and you can find that. I edited this portion of the post in an effort to remain accurate to the latest available information.

I know of interest in someone whose name has not been dropped and is not among those that Auburn bloggers and chat room hosts are lauding and tossing around. Those which the bloggers attribute to the new AD are a list of names that circle through almost every time and are very likely intended distractions. It provides great cover while serious candidates are in talks, several of which are likely involved in postseason activity whether CCG's or playoff hopefuls and will not be distracted until it's time.

My sense here is that nothing is about to happen as fast as some think.

Dabo. Auburn wants Dabo. Got it.


Or Gus Malzahn? 03-lmfao

Wrong as usual, but please play again.

I would be very surprised if it were Dykes, Bielema, or the K State coach.

Prime has been my #1 for Auburn since Harsin was fired. Technically his team is in a CCG too.

Deion has not proven that he can coach, and he couldn't out-talent teams in the SEC the way he can at Jackson St. He would get destroyed by Kiffin or The Pirate, and get out-talented by bama, A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky... As a Deion fan I hope that he goes to CU or perhaps USF to keep improving, but as a regular Auburn foe I'll admit I selfishly hope they hire him.

Deion should get the UW treatment... "Not now, but not never".

It's too bad they don't play in the FCS playoffs so we could see how they match up against other really good teams.
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RE: Thamel: Auburn in discussions with Hugh Freeze
Ross Dellenger with breaking news: Freeze to Auburn being finalized.

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status...eu7qosAAAA
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My post #43 from last night aged like sour milk. It looks like Hugh Freeze is indeed the coach at Auburn.

He'll have similar on-field results as he had at Ole Miss. That includes a couple of wins over Alabama. I hope his tenure at Auburn doesn't end like it did at Ole Miss.
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(11-28-2022 04:00 PM)johnintx Wrote:  My post #43 from last night aged like sour milk. It looks like Hugh Freeze is indeed the coach at Auburn.

He'll have similar on-field results as he had at Ole Miss. That includes a couple of wins over Alabama. I hope his tenure at Auburn doesn't end like it did at Ole Miss.

It's totally disgusting to me. I have to harbor a strong suspicion that Jimmy Sexton has something on Auburn's athletic department and is calling in a marker to save Freeze's butt and thereby keep Sexton's client flush and Sexton's pockets full. Whatever it is I think likely goes back to Tuberville days. That was the last time the Auburn Trustees and Athletic Department functioned with a semblance of reason.
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With Freeze to Auburn now official, it'll be interesting to see how much money Liberty is willing to spend on his replacement. How much money would it cost Liberty to lure away a coach like Curt Cignetti or Jamey Chadwell from the SBC?
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