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A stain on B1G holiness
Just a note ... recall when NIU played at Iowa and both teams and all fans gave a big salute to the kids in Iowa's children's hospital tower? Kids with serious illnesses gather at the windows over-looking the stadium, with family, to watch the game. One of the best salutes in college football, and certainly one of the best in the B1G. A real heartfelt moment.

But today, Nebraska at Iowa, with about another 30 seconds left to the salute, the Big Ten Network cuts it off for ad space. Cut it off in mid-sentence when the announcer was saying " ... one of the best traditions in college ... ."

But in the same string of ads, there was a full B1G promo.

Cheap.
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Not sure that's that big of a deal, but have to agree that the Pig10 would sell its own mother for $5 of additional champaign money.
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No big deal to me personally either. But this is what everyone who was watching the BTN saw. (You're also right about the $, imo.)
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If this is one of the best traditions in college football, shame on college football. A bunch of rich or drunk football fans turn around and wave at sick kids? You're SUPPOSED to wave to sick kids. Don't ask for credits.

I'll be impressed when these wonderful people actually go over to the hospital and spend time with the kids, reading to them, talking to them or playing with them.

It's nice that they wave, but that's all they do. Let's not overvalue this "tradition."

(11-25-2022 05:02 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  Just a note ... recall when NIU played at Iowa and both teams and all fans gave a big salute to the kids in Iowa's children's hospital tower? Kids with serious illnesses gather at the windows over-looking the stadium, with family, to watch the game. One of the best salutes in college football, and certainly one of the best in the B1G. A real heartfelt moment.

But today, Nebraska at Iowa, with about another 30 seconds left to the salute, the Big Ten Network cuts it off for ad space. Cut it off in mid-sentence when the announcer was saying " ... one of the best traditions in college ... ."

But in the same string of ads, there was a full B1G promo.

Cheap.
11-26-2022 05:12 PM
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No it isn't all they do. Almost an entire crowd of 65,000-plus and the coaching staffs, cheerleaders, band, players ... even people in the skyboxes ... waves and sings along with a positive and heartfelt song dedicated to the kids. The kids, their parents and families crowd the big hospital windows waving back, filling all the available space. And it happens every home game. Carrie Underwood used a clip of it in her hit song "Champion," which I believe was later used as one of the songs (I heard she got no royalty for it). Nobody else does anything like that on that scale anywhere else in college football (not that I'm aware of). Let's not cheapen something that isn't a fund-raising gimmick or made-for-tv.
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I guess this is what we focus on in the midst of a 3-9 season and losing to a 1-9 team and one of the 5 worst programs in the country in the last decade.
11-27-2022 09:36 AM
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This does not need to be shown on TV lol. What a weird complaint.
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(11-26-2022 05:12 PM)Huckin Fuskie Wrote:  If this is one of the best traditions in college football, shame on college football. A bunch of rich or drunk football fans turn around and wave at sick kids? You're SUPPOSED to wave to sick kids. Don't ask for credits.

I'll be impressed when these wonderful people actually go over to the hospital and spend time with the kids, reading to them, talking to them or playing with them.

It's nice that they wave, but that's all they do. Let's not overvalue this "tradition."

(11-25-2022 05:02 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  Just a note ... recall when NIU played at Iowa and both teams and all fans gave a big salute to the kids in Iowa's children's hospital tower? Kids with serious illnesses gather at the windows over-looking the stadium, with family, to watch the game. One of the best salutes in college football, and certainly one of the best in the B1G. A real heartfelt moment.

But today, Nebraska at Iowa, with about another 30 seconds left to the salute, the Big Ten Network cuts it off for ad space. Cut it off in mid-sentence when the announcer was saying " ... one of the best traditions in college ... ."

But in the same string of ads, there was a full B1G promo.

Cheap.

Agreed. It seems forced…like a look at this good thing we are doing
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(11-27-2022 02:01 PM)pjfleck82 Wrote:  
(11-26-2022 05:12 PM)Huckin Fuskie Wrote:  If this is one of the best traditions in college football, shame on college football. A bunch of rich or drunk football fans turn around and wave at sick kids? You're SUPPOSED to wave to sick kids. Don't ask for credits.

I'll be impressed when these wonderful people actually go over to the hospital and spend time with the kids, reading to them, talking to them or playing with them.

It's nice that they wave, but that's all they do. Let's not overvalue this "tradition."

(11-25-2022 05:02 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  Just a note ... recall when NIU played at Iowa and both teams and all fans gave a big salute to the kids in Iowa's children's hospital tower? Kids with serious illnesses gather at the windows over-looking the stadium, with family, to watch the game. One of the best salutes in college football, and certainly one of the best in the B1G. A real heartfelt moment.

But today, Nebraska at Iowa, with about another 30 seconds left to the salute, the Big Ten Network cuts it off for ad space. Cut it off in mid-sentence when the announcer was saying " ... one of the best traditions in college ... ."

But in the same string of ads, there was a full B1G promo.

Cheap.

Agreed. It seems forced…like a look at this good thing we are doing

Iowa State fans would agree with you.
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Incredible. Posters completely missing a point about a tradition that was *stained* (not attacked, destroyed, blasted) by BTN -- Iowa's and the B1G's own network -- by a TV spot that BTN *chose* to broadcast.

This is not a made-for-TV "event." It was started in 2017 by fans of a community wth a long-standing tradition of support for ailing children at a hospital their university built. The fans built the tradition up, not the media. (NIU chose to participate in 2018). Read this is you have time top item):

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...pital-wave

Media choose to report it. The BTN chose to do so, then cut it off for 30 seconds of commercial $. That was my point.

Now, let's see ... where DID we put those NIU traditions?
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(11-27-2022 10:39 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  Incredible. Posters completely missing a point about a tradition that was *stained* (not attacked, destroyed, blasted) by BTN -- Iowa's and the B1G's own network -- by a TV spot that BTN *chose* to broadcast.

This is not a made-for-TV "event." It was started in 2017 by fans of a community wth a long-standing tradition of support for ailing children at a hospital their university built. The fans built the tradition up, not the media. (NIU chose to participate in 2018). Read this is you have time top item):

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...pital-wave

Media choose to report it. The BTN chose to do so, then cut it off for 30 seconds of commercial $. That was my point.

Now, let's see ... where DID we put those NIU traditions?

Makes perfect sense.

Showing it at all, trivializes it. Makes them look like do gooders when it’s a private moment in Iowa City between fans and kids.

Showing it and cutting it off trivialized it and makes them pompous greedy asses. They should at least show the whole thing because major trivializing is better than minimal trivializing and being pompous.

BTW, yes, you are blowing it out of the water, making something out of nothing and have a personal beef. I have seen bits of it numerous times covered on tv during a game. My suggestion don’t watch Iowa games or B10 Network if it bothers you.
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Curious that someone's intentions can be discerned even when they aren't there. I even narrowed it down: "The BTN chose to do so, then cut it off for 30 seconds of commercial $." That was it. No "personal beef." I just thought that was cheap. And I still watch BTN games when I'm interested. End of story.

This thread has been expanded for no good reason, imo. My fault was trying to explain too much of what I meant. So, I'm done.
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75, agree it's a great tradition. If thousands of people including football players and cheerleaders waving to kids and their families going through the worst of times brings a smile to their faces, then rock 'n' roll. Seeing it in person sends shivers down the spine, and personally it doesn't bother me if they show all or just part of it during B10 games. Answer to your question "Now, let's see ... where DID we put those NIU traditions?" Not telling you anything you don't already know: The only one that comes anywhere close to being as meaningful as the tradition at Kinnick, at least to NIU fans, is our ongoing salute to the fallen 5 at the end of the third quarter. The players, cheerleaders, and band members do it. So do new students as the meaning and tradition get passed down to the next generation of Huskies. So many fans reverently do it at games and explain it to those who don't get it...it's pretty damn impressive. Even now, when it seems like there's a mass shooting every week somewhere in the U.S., it's still meaningful...maybe more than ever. Makes me crazy that the broadcasters always make some ignorant comment about it (I even wrote to ESPN about that and got a response that they'd try to fix it). Football needs more meaningful traditions like at Iowa and NIU, instead of the stupid crap that passes for traditions at some schools.
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