(11-28-2022 09:51 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:01 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 12:01 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  We should hire this guy.

This is a coach who is full of confidence about himself and his team after they beat the best team in their league 47-7. He said they were making a statement to the nation, and he wished they had scored 65.

They were up by 13 at halftime and he knew exactly how they could do better. Made some adjustments and went 27-0 in the second half.

We should have hired this guy already. He is awesome.

Why would he move from 1 G5 to another? He'll get a P5 opportunity soon if he wants it.

Mid-major to mid-major isn't a step up.

Yes it is a step up. He was getting paid about $600,000 this season. JMU will offer him a substantial pay increase no doubt, but we could (and should) offer him at least $2 million. That's a big step up. Memphis is still considered one of the best G5 coaching jobs in the country.

He will get a P5 opportunity. He does not need to come to Memphis.

(11-28-2022 06:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:30 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:23 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 02:56 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 02:51 PM)Crazier Wrote:  I don't think it's that easy. Considering the school just can't buy up all the residential land around the campus to build a stadium. I think we need to be rolling in power 5 money in order for that to happen with major corporate backing. We got left behind because we should have been investing in football on a serious level 25 years ago. [/b]

Spot on. I really wish people would get over the OCS thing. That’s not happening and it’s never going to happen unless the campus itself moves.

It’s never going to happen because those making & influencing decisions don’t have/haven’t had the desire or will for it to happen. They have self-interest & city interests in front of university interest. We had the same problems in the 60s when we were considered for SEC membership & rejected because of lack of investment in the FB program - even after being told directly that was the major obstacle. And we’ve never since done anything to change that, not even designate a placeholder on the main campus for a stadium when space was easily available (that would have cost nothing). Now we add land to the list of excuses why we can’t build on campus.

You are so thick, it's like talking to a brick wall. It took us 20 years to build an IPF that went from $9.5 million to $20 million. The school figured out that the whales could be counted on to raise $100 - $150 million for an OCS that will cost north of $300 million. The fanbase can't be counted on to raise the other half.


None of you comedians ever answers the question I've asked 100 times. What happens when the whales raise $150 million, the fanbase raises $50 million and you still need another $150 million? Then what?

The same “state” that’s currently being asked to fork over 200 million to fund the Liberty Bowl renovation, instead provides it for a much needed oncampus football facility.

State is more likely to donate to Simmons Bank than they are an on campus stadium. It has dual use with 2 teams playing there + SHC

(11-29-2022 08:52 AM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 06:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:30 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:23 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 02:56 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Spot on. I really wish people would get over the OCS thing. That’s not happening and it’s never going to happen unless the campus itself moves.

It’s never going to happen because those making & influencing decisions don’t have/haven’t had the desire or will for it to happen. They have self-interest & city interests in front of university interest. We had the same problems in the 60s when we were considered for SEC membership & rejected because of lack of investment in the FB program - even after being told directly that was the major obstacle. And we’ve never since done anything to change that, not even designate a placeholder on the main campus for a stadium when space was easily available (that would have cost nothing). Now we add land to the list of excuses why we can’t build on campus.

You are so thick, it's like talking to a brick wall. It took us 20 years to build an IPF that went from $9.5 million to $20 million. The school figured out that the whales could be counted on to raise $100 - $150 million for an OCS that will cost north of $300 million. The fanbase can't be counted on to raise the other half.


None of you comedians ever answers the question I've asked 100 times. What happens when the whales raise $150 million, the fanbase raises $50 million and you still need another $150 million? Then what?

The same “state” that’s currently being asked to fork over 200 million to fund the Liberty Bowl renovation, instead provides it for a much needed oncampus football facility.

State is more likely to donate to Simmons Bank than they are an on campus stadium. It has dual use with 2 teams playing there + SHC

Let's change that dynamic, with action against those that do not serve their duties/obligations, through due process...

(11-28-2022 12:05 PM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  People are putting a lot of faith in Deion as a coach. He has a rather impressive roster full of power5 transfers playing against honestly vastly inferior talent. some of their games have been blowouts, but honestly they all should have been. these 24-13, 27-13,22-14, 26-12 wins are shaky. Not saying he is a bad coach, but you would think they would be essentially dominantly overwhelming to other SWAC teams.

What are the priorities for a fb coach at Memphis - not Alabama, Memphis?
Seliing tix
Excitement in the community
National relevance
HS recruits
Portal recruits
NIL for players
Competing for AAC championships

I might be missing something, but that should about cover it. Which of those does Ryan fail at, and which would Deion succeed at?

We're not asking him to make the playoffs and go head-to-head with Saban - we're asking him to go against Willie Fritz and Rhett Lashlee. Deion with an expanded recruiting base, and a better coaching budget would kill it here.

(11-28-2022 04:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  How many more years is RS contracted for? Can we afford to go after Cignetti next year if he still is available?

I believe he has 3 years left on the contract now. Popular thought is that we let him skate one more year (and inevitable 6-6 record, with dismal attendance) and then fire him when the buyout is down another 33%.

Cignetti probably won't be available and Deion certainly won't. But there will be others then I suppose. I just hope apathy hasn't killed the program by then.

(11-28-2022 05:15 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 04:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 11:04 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:48 AM)gusrob Wrote:  I haven't read enough posts, so sorry if I'm rec recreating a convo...

I'm curious to see what types of coaches we can bring in. We are in a different situation this go-round. We previously had promise to join a P5 conference. That seems off-the-table for now and I wonder what type of coach we can get. Can we get the JMU coach? Can we get Deion?

Deion can walk into any room with any audience and be comfortable in his own skin and provide a message that hits home. That's in the living room of a recruit, donor meeting, school's president's office, etc. I like what he brings to the table! But can we get him? Surely he'll have big time P5 offers, right?

All of these coaches need to be spoken with and shown the perks of being Memphis HC. We need someone assertive and intelligent. I'm not sure Laird Veatch is the guy to bring in a big hire. I HOPE I'M WRONG! But without bringing in a solid replacement, what are we talking about?

Who do we hire? GREAT question Tiger87! That is THE question. It's more important than the typical fan question of "should we fire coach X?"

VERY, different times indeed GUSROB.....This IS SERIOUS...We must be prepared to go "INDY"...Coach Prime/Penny working in conjunction, scheduling whom they want....Utilizing their brands as leverage....Creating a Buzz; Excitement; Deion & Penny are the network, build around them and let the chips fall where they may

Quote:This IS SERIOUS...We must be prepared to go "INDY"

Yes, let's follow the UConn blueprint to success. Let's schedule 12 buy games. 6 cupcakes at home, and 6 P5 on the road. The road to success is half of the revenue and no bowl tie in. What a genius.

How far is that from what we are going to have in this conference?

A long way.
This conference is still going to be the best of the rest.
Better than the Sun, MWC, CUSA, MAC, and - yes - better than independents.
We win the AAC with 1-loss, we make the Access bowl and eventually the CFP.
No independent can do that (other than ND).

(11-29-2022 08:52 AM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 06:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:30 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:23 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 02:56 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Spot on. I really wish people would get over the OCS thing. That’s not happening and it’s never going to happen unless the campus itself moves.

It’s never going to happen because those making & influencing decisions don’t have/haven’t had the desire or will for it to happen. They have self-interest & city interests in front of university interest. We had the same problems in the 60s when we were considered for SEC membership & rejected because of lack of investment in the FB program - even after being told directly that was the major obstacle. And we’ve never since done anything to change that, not even designate a placeholder on the main campus for a stadium when space was easily available (that would have cost nothing). Now we add land to the list of excuses why we can’t build on campus.

You are so thick, it's like talking to a brick wall. It took us 20 years to build an IPF that went from $9.5 million to $20 million. The school figured out that the whales could be counted on to raise $100 - $150 million for an OCS that will cost north of $300 million. The fanbase can't be counted on to raise the other half.


None of you comedians ever answers the question I've asked 100 times. What happens when the whales raise $150 million, the fanbase raises $50 million and you still need another $150 million? Then what?

The same “state” that’s currently being asked to fork over 200 million to fund the Liberty Bowl renovation, instead provides it for a much needed oncampus football facility.

State is more likely to donate to Simmons Bank than they are an on campus stadium. It has dual use with 2 teams playing there + SHC

Not sure who the 2nd team (USFL? until it disappears again) is but an OCS could be used for any & all FB to be played, just like at LBS. That’s simply a distinction without a difference except that our university would manage & the facility would be on or adjacent to the campus.

LOL Atlanta

you still barking at air?

(11-29-2022 11:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 08:52 AM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 06:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:30 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:23 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  It’s never going to happen because those making & influencing decisions don’t have/haven’t had the desire or will for it to happen. They have self-interest & city interests in front of university interest. We had the same problems in the 60s when we were considered for SEC membership & rejected because of lack of investment in the FB program - even after being told directly that was the major obstacle. And we’ve never since done anything to change that, not even designate a placeholder on the main campus for a stadium when space was easily available (that would have cost nothing). Now we add land to the list of excuses why we can’t build on campus.

You are so thick, it's like talking to a brick wall. It took us 20 years to build an IPF that went from $9.5 million to $20 million. The school figured out that the whales could be counted on to raise $100 - $150 million for an OCS that will cost north of $300 million. The fanbase can't be counted on to raise the other half.


None of you comedians ever answers the question I've asked 100 times. What happens when the whales raise $150 million, the fanbase raises $50 million and you still need another $150 million? Then what?

The same “state” that’s currently being asked to fork over 200 million to fund the Liberty Bowl renovation, instead provides it for a much needed oncampus football facility.

State is more likely to donate to Simmons Bank than they are an on campus stadium. It has dual use with 2 teams playing there + SHC

Not sure who the 2nd team (USFL? until it disappears again) is but an OCS could be used for any & all FB to be played, just like at LBS. That’s simply a distinction without a difference except that our university would manage & the facility would be on or adjacent to the campus.

We would OWN it. Rent and revenue from any other events would go to the school, not the city. We would control scheduling of events. We would control concessions. Most of the parking. There's all kinds of money involved here that the city won't give up.

The USA men's soccer team is about to have a their biggest match in the world's biggest sports event. I would like to take a moment to wish them a beautiful and historic victory over Iran so that they can move on to the Sweet 16. This is arguably the most talented and unarguably the youngest team the USA has ever had. Go USA!!!

(11-29-2022 11:26 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 05:15 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 04:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 11:04 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:48 AM)gusrob Wrote:  I haven't read enough posts, so sorry if I'm rec recreating a convo...

I'm curious to see what types of coaches we can bring in. We are in a different situation this go-round. We previously had promise to join a P5 conference. That seems off-the-table for now and I wonder what type of coach we can get. Can we get the JMU coach? Can we get Deion?

Deion can walk into any room with any audience and be comfortable in his own skin and provide a message that hits home. That's in the living room of a recruit, donor meeting, school's president's office, etc. I like what he brings to the table! But can we get him? Surely he'll have big time P5 offers, right?

All of these coaches need to be spoken with and shown the perks of being Memphis HC. We need someone assertive and intelligent. I'm not sure Laird Veatch is the guy to bring in a big hire. I HOPE I'M WRONG! But without bringing in a solid replacement, what are we talking about?

Who do we hire? GREAT question Tiger87! That is THE question. It's more important than the typical fan question of "should we fire coach X?"

VERY, different times indeed GUSROB.....This IS SERIOUS...We must be prepared to go "INDY"...Coach Prime/Penny working in conjunction, scheduling whom they want....Utilizing their brands as leverage....Creating a Buzz; Excitement; Deion & Penny are the network, build around them and let the chips fall where they may

Quote:This IS SERIOUS...We must be prepared to go "INDY"

Yes, let's follow the UConn blueprint to success. Let's schedule 12 buy games. 6 cupcakes at home, and 6 P5 on the road. The road to success is half of the revenue and no bowl tie in. What a genius.

How far is that from what we are going to have in this conference?

A long way.
This conference is still going to be the best of the rest.
Better than the Sun, MWC, CUSA, MAC, and - yes - better than independents.
We win the AAC with 1-loss, we make the Access bowl and eventually the CFP.
No independent can do that (other than ND).

What would be the barometer for measuring this? As it consists of a vast amount of variables, that are not only yet tbd, this is new territory. What are you comparing this instance to. It's really hypothetical conjecture, ie; hope....This will affect recruiting (to what degree), recruiting will affect coaching/performance, our coaches have performed below average, with potentially higher rated recruits. Do you suspect our recruiting rating will increase?

So, your point "We win the AAC with 1-loss, we make the Access bowl and eventually the CFP." How do we get here, with potentially lower rated recruits; A staff that has under-performed with higher rated recruits.

What you're essentially uttering is; "Watch me pull a rabbit out o my hat", and produce a season with only one loss and win the conference championship, as Memphis will be blessed with a weaker schedule/opponents.... Newsflash, we will be weaker, there's an absolute probability, that we will have weaker recruiting. Nonetheless, this staff has under performed with higher-rated recruits in the stronger division. Hence, as we are stating, We are headed into irrelevant status. With a 55k seat stadium, that's being slated for upgrades to go where?.....NOWHERE, we are being led astray, the sooner we realize this.....We can at least make some more calculated decisions to bring in opponents that we can benefit from....You can use that term benefit any way that you so choose....But that pie-in-the-sky plan of a one loss team;win the conference championship;go to the access bowl. With this staff, is wishful thinking at best, as well as, based upon our opponents, fan participation will be marginal at best. Which equates to, we will be hemorrhaging finances.

If we remove the admin; place the right leader in place; schedule games against opponents that fans want to participate. We then control our own destiny. We become attractive, just like ND. Regardless of conference affiliation; Regardless if we don't have an OCS, we become a brand that's making money, our fans are enjoying the atmosphere of an updated stadium and life is good at Memphis, in the middle of SEC country, in very fertile recruiting grounds.

(11-29-2022 12:16 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  The USA men's soccer team is about to have a their biggest match in the world's biggest sports event. I would like to take a moment to wish them a beautiful and historic victory over Iran so that they can move on to the Sweet 16. This is arguably the most talented and unarguably the youngest team the USA has ever had. Go USA!!!

Hear, hear!!!!

(11-29-2022 11:26 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 05:15 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 04:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 11:04 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:48 AM)gusrob Wrote:  I haven't read enough posts, so sorry if I'm rec recreating a convo...

I'm curious to see what types of coaches we can bring in. We are in a different situation this go-round. We previously had promise to join a P5 conference. That seems off-the-table for now and I wonder what type of coach we can get. Can we get the JMU coach? Can we get Deion?

Deion can walk into any room with any audience and be comfortable in his own skin and provide a message that hits home. That's in the living room of a recruit, donor meeting, school's president's office, etc. I like what he brings to the table! But can we get him? Surely he'll have big time P5 offers, right?

All of these coaches need to be spoken with and shown the perks of being Memphis HC. We need someone assertive and intelligent. I'm not sure Laird Veatch is the guy to bring in a big hire. I HOPE I'M WRONG! But without bringing in a solid replacement, what are we talking about?

Who do we hire? GREAT question Tiger87! That is THE question. It's more important than the typical fan question of "should we fire coach X?"

VERY, different times indeed GUSROB.....This IS SERIOUS...We must be prepared to go "INDY"...Coach Prime/Penny working in conjunction, scheduling whom they want....Utilizing their brands as leverage....Creating a Buzz; Excitement; Deion & Penny are the network, build around them and let the chips fall where they may

Quote:This IS SERIOUS...We must be prepared to go "INDY"

Yes, let's follow the UConn blueprint to success. Let's schedule 12 buy games. 6 cupcakes at home, and 6 P5 on the road. The road to success is half of the revenue and no bowl tie in. What a genius.

How far is that from what we are going to have in this conference?

A long way.
This conference is still going to be the best of the rest.
Better than the Sun, MWC, CUSA, MAC, and - yes - better than independents.
We win the AAC with 1-loss, we make the Access bowl and eventually the CFP.
No independent can do that (other than ND).

Doesn’t much matter to us other than a few $$ if we can’t even play .500 in-conference.

(11-29-2022 02:31 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 12:16 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  The USA men's soccer team is about to have a their biggest match in the world's biggest sports event. I would like to take a moment to wish them a beautiful and historic victory over Iran so that they can move on to the Sweet 16. This is arguably the most talented and unarguably the youngest team the USA has ever had. Go USA!!!

Hear, hear!!!!

They won!!!

(11-29-2022 04:46 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 02:31 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 12:16 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  The USA men's soccer team is about to have a their biggest match in the world's biggest sports event. I would like to take a moment to wish them a beautiful and historic victory over Iran so that they can move on to the Sweet 16. This is arguably the most talented and unarguably the youngest team the USA has ever had. Go USA!!!

Hear, hear!!!!

They won!!!

In front of 40,500 fans. Big enough for the World Cup, but not for the City of Memphis.

Lol...OSU fans are calling for Ryan Day to be fired.

I think Jimbo F. is now available? He has made so much money h3 could literally work for free.... But I don't think he has the drive, energy, and ambition to succeed at Memphis.

(11-30-2022 10:25 AM)dcg141 Wrote:  Lol...OSU fans are calling for Ryan Day to be fired.

Maybe, they’ll come after our up & coming young HC?

(11-30-2022 11:20 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 10:25 AM)dcg141 Wrote:  Lol...OSU fans are calling for Ryan Day to be fired.

Maybe, they’ll come after our up & coming young HC?

Silverwood should pursue an NFL gig.....His nature fits that dynamic moreso than the collegiate atmosphere

Tom Herman just got hired by FAU.