It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “
star took office.

(11-10-2022 01:39 PM)450bench Wrote:  It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “ star took office.

A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

(11-10-2022 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:39 PM)450bench Wrote:  It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “ star took office.

A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

(11-10-2022 02:04 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:39 PM)450bench Wrote:  It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “ star took office.

A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:04 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:39 PM)450bench Wrote:  It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “ star took office.

A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

I'll simply take your first bogus point.

The pandemic started in early 2020. Gas prices started sky-rocketing over a year later, when many were back on the roads.

You really do just swallow whatever the MSM says, huh?

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:04 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:39 PM)450bench Wrote:  It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “ star took office.

A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

Prolonged lockdowns have consequences. By the summer of 2020, it was obvious the the virus wasn't nearly as deadly as advertised. Every state should have been fully reopened with optional mask wearing. Due to this, you had businesses that couldn't open, the population was scared to travel and engage in commerce. Only one party advocated for these things. Artifically keeping down demand kills off businesses, resulting in higher prices due to monopolies. Retail was destroyed.

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:04 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:39 PM)450bench Wrote:  It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “ star took office.

A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

Not sure about anyone else but The Biden administration has absolutely no clue about supply and demand

(11-10-2022 01:21 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  The only car lots I see that isn't full of used cars are the German dealerships. BMW, VW and MB are full of inventory. Will start seeing Factory incentives all over the place by next Spring when the Tax Refunds start coming out.

Tax refund.... the **** is that

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(11-10-2022 02:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:04 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:39 PM)450bench Wrote:  It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “ star took office.

A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

I'll simply take your first bogus point.

The pandemic started in early 2020. Gas prices started sky-rocketing over a year later, when many were back on the roads.

You really do just swallow whatever the MSM says, huh?

Again, just proving your lack of understanding. And no, I don't listen whatsoever to the MSM on this issue. They don't know much of anything. I get my information from a globally recognized oil and gas expert with over 30 years of industry experience.

A word of advice, go get a tiktok account and follow @mrglobaltoo (Matthew Randolph). He's got hundreds of short clips which you can get educated on the matter and stop making moronic comments. And no, he's not a Biden shill.

(11-10-2022 02:44 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:04 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:39 PM)450bench Wrote:  It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “ star took office.

A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

Not sure about anyone else but The Biden administration has absolutely no clue about supply and demand

Have no fear! They're going to schedule another trip to Saudi Arabia, so Biden can grovel for more oil supply. After all, the Saudi's really respect Joe.

(11-10-2022 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:04 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

I'll simply take your first bogus point.

The pandemic started in early 2020. Gas prices started sky-rocketing over a year later, when many were back on the roads.

You really do just swallow whatever the MSM says, huh?

Again, just proving your lack of understanding. And no, I don't listen whatsoever to the MSM on this issue. They don't know much of anything.

Well, they may not know much, but 97.3% of everything you say is the same thing they say, on every topic.

Perhaps the same group that sends the talking points to them, has you on their e-mail list?

(11-10-2022 02:27 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:04 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:39 PM)450bench Wrote:  It’s kinda like taking a victory lap because gas prices are at $3.40, when they started at $2.17 the day the “weekend at Bernie’s “ star took office.

A G A I N, the average price per gallon of regular gas was $2.379 the Monday before Biden was sworn in. Not $2.17.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHa...US_DPG&f=W

Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

Prolonged lockdowns have consequences. By the summer of 2020, it was obvious the the virus wasn't nearly as deadly as advertised. Every state should have been fully reopened with optional mask wearing. Due to this, you had businesses that couldn't open, the population was scared to travel and engage in commerce. Only one party advocated for these things. Artifically keeping down demand kills off businesses, resulting in higher prices due to monopolies. Retail was destroyed.

Totally valid, and it played a significant role in the jump in gas prices when things reopened. But if you were to have every state reopen, I would think you'd want MANDATORY mask wearing. And it wasn't just blue states that had lockdowns. And while sure, blue states pushed things more for the most part, you also need to recognize the lack of leadership on this from DC. trump was a huge failure on this. And you can even blame Fauci if you want...I personally wouldn't...but he was a part of the trump administration as well.

Also, I didn't even mention the Ukraine war. I looked this up awhile back, but our gas prices jumped like $.75 per gallon a couple weeks after the invasion.

But what you're seeing now is likely to remain. Opec+ have every intention of keeping the prices elevated.

Bottom line, this has been one of those perfect storms encompassing many things that have lead us to where we are now. So just blaming the current president for everything is just lazy...and ignorant.

P.S.: In relation to the world, we're not really paying that high a price for gas. We just got accustomed to where it was several years ago. The biggest issue is that wages have not risen enough to match the inflation. And here again, there's a number of factors at play there, not just who the president happens to be.

(11-10-2022 02:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:04 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Yeah! Gas prices are only up 30%. You pleebs should get your Spaghetti-O's and be quiet!

Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

I'll simply take your first bogus point.

The pandemic started in early 2020. Gas prices started sky-rocketing over a year later, when many were back on the roads.

You really do just swallow whatever the MSM says, huh?

Again, just proving your lack of understanding. And no, I don't listen whatsoever to the MSM on this issue. They don't know much of anything.

Well, they may not know much, but 97.3% of everything you say is the same thing they say, on every topic.

Perhaps the same group that sends the talking points to them, has you on their e-mail list?

Again, just showing your ignorance here.

When's the last time you've seen a MSM article on rig count? On how you prolong the life of an oil well? On the record demand we saw in 2021?

Should I assume you only listen to idiots like Tucker who hear that we have a supply of 25 days of diesel in storage and ignorantly assume that in 25 days we will have no diesel at all?

Gotta love when an independent voter pisses on us and calls it rain...

I laughed When Biden said yesterday Gas is down 1.35 a gallon while here in Democrat controlled Louisville, Ky it jumped over the weekend to 3.99 a gallon from 3.39 Friday. Today it's still 3.99 at most area locations. Guess our new Dem Mayor elect wants to continue the current Mayors plans of turning 4 lane roads into 2 lane roads with bike lanes each direction.

(11-10-2022 03:10 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  I laughed When Biden said yesterday Gas is down 1.35 a gallon while here in Democrat controlled Louisville, Ky it jumped over the weekend to 3.99 a gallon from 3.39 Friday. Today it's still 3.99 at most area locations. Guess our new Dem Mayor elect wants to continue the current Mayors plans of turning 4 lane roads into 2 lane roads with bike lanes each direction.

The Dems rely on their constituents being economically ignorant. It's a strategy that works.

(11-10-2022 02:58 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Totally valid, and it played a significant role in the jump in gas prices when things reopened. But if you were to have every state reopen, I would think you'd want MANDATORY mask wearing. And it wasn't just blue states that had lockdowns. And while sure, blue states pushed things more for the most part, you also need to recognize the lack of leadership on this from DC. trump was a huge failure on this. And you can even blame Fauci if you want...I personally wouldn't...but he was a part of the trump administration as well.

The fact that you agree with my premise is a huge win in this discussion. I kid.

It would have been wise to give private companies the option of making their own rules on masking then eventually vaccines. And I will acknowledge that we have the full result of COVID and that it was endemic, but we didn't know that in 2020, just that the death rate was beginning to be more like the seasonal flu.

Trump failed in ways yes, but for different reasons listed. He was going to be crucified regardless of the outcome. He tried to play the middle often and would contradict himself (same as Fauci) because he knew the blowback would've been epic on media in an election year. I blame Fauci for his inconsistent messaging as a trusted advisor close to the WH. He seemed to change his tune every other week regarding masks, transmission, etc. Trump put him in that position on TV, so he gets some blame. It was all aimless and it got worse by the month.



Also, I didn't even mention the Ukraine war. I looked this up awhile back, but our gas prices jumped like $.75 per gallon a couple weeks after the invasion.

But what you're seeing now is likely to remain. Opec+ have every intention of keeping the prices elevated.

Bottom line, this has been one of those perfect storms encompassing many things that have lead us to where we are now. So just blaming the current president for everything is just lazy...and ignorant.

Biden can shoulder some blame for being in top administrations for 10 out of the last 14 years. Yes, anytime there is War prices become volatile. That doesn't negate the fact that average gas in the US rose above $3 in June 2021 and has hasn't dropped below since. That issue was going to persist regardless of Ukraine, partly because of demand spiking and partly because we're beholden to what OPEC does.

P.S.: In relation to the world, we're not really paying that high a price for gas. We just got accustomed to where it was several years ago. The biggest issue is that wages have not risen enough to match the inflation. And here again, there's a number of factors at play there, not just who the president happens to be.

Of course there are many factors at play, but the point that a lot of posters make is that we need to begin drilling, extracting, and refining here at home. It may not help in the short term, but if we had done this a decade ago the global market would be cheaper and less prone to oil shocks and wartime spikes.

(11-10-2022 03:24 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 03:10 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  I laughed When Biden said yesterday Gas is down 1.35 a gallon while here in Democrat controlled Louisville, Ky it jumped over the weekend to 3.99 a gallon from 3.39 Friday. Today it's still 3.99 at most area locations. Guess our new Dem Mayor elect wants to continue the current Mayors plans of turning 4 lane roads into 2 lane roads with bike lanes each direction.

The Dems rely on their constituents being economically ignorant. It's a strategy that works.

So, what's the excuse for the majority of the righties on this site who seem to have no grasp of the situation on gas prices either?

(11-10-2022 03:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Tell me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry without telling me you have absolutely no concept whatsoever about supply and demand and the oil and gas industry.

What was the demand when the whole country basically stopped driving?
What was the demand when the pandemic subsided and everyone started driving again?
What did US Oil companies have to do to make money when trump got SA to flood the market in April of 2020?
What happens to the life of an oil well when you have to open it fully rather than gradually?
What happened to our oil rig count in 2020?
How many oil companies went out of business?
How many refineries closed?
What's our current oil production in comparison to the height during the trump administration?
What's the forecasted US oil production for the near future?

If you can't even bother to get a remedial grasp of these facts, concepts, and issues then you really just need to take a seat when talking about the price of gas.

I'll simply take your first bogus point.

The pandemic started in early 2020. Gas prices started sky-rocketing over a year later, when many were back on the roads.

You really do just swallow whatever the MSM says, huh?

Again, just proving your lack of understanding. And no, I don't listen whatsoever to the MSM on this issue. They don't know much of anything.

Well, they may not know much, but 97.3% of everything you say is the same thing they say, on every topic.

Perhaps the same group that sends the talking points to them, has you on their e-mail list?

Again, just showing your ignorance here.

When's the last time you've seen a MSM article on rig count? On how you prolong the life of an oil well? On the record demand we saw in 2021?

Should I assume you only listen to idiots like Tucker who hear that we have a supply of 25 days of diesel in storage and ignorantly assume that in 25 days we will have no diesel at all?

LOL! Riiiight. It's not Dem policies to blame. It's those dumb oil companies that don't understand rig count and how to prolong an oil well.

Next, you're going to blame gas stations for price gouging, like Biden did.

While you totally ignore everything the Dems say about ending the fossil fuel industry. This really is clown world.

(11-10-2022 03:10 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  I laughed When Biden said yesterday Gas is down 1.35 a gallon while here in Democrat controlled Louisville, Ky it jumped over the weekend to 3.99 a gallon from 3.39 Friday. Today it's still 3.99 at most area locations. Guess our new Dem Mayor elect wants to continue the current Mayors plans of turning 4 lane roads into 2 lane roads with bike lanes each direction.

It looks like the whole northern central part of Kentucky is much higher than the rest of the state.
https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=KY

Have you heard any reason why? Spikes like that are usually related to local refinery or transportation issues.