(11-10-2022 08:47 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 12:45 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Been a full day with little movement in vote counts and big delays in AZ. This happened two years ago, and I cannot recall any delayed outcome in "counting all valid votes" EVER providing a greater vote to the Red Team.

We once again are seeing massive voter fraud occurring in front of our very eyes, and my expectation is that the House may not flip and all three Senate races go blue.

FL does it correctly and promptly. This AZ, NV, CO, CA bull**** has to be corrected. Two cheats in a row and we are fighting, and we are letting it happen.

Actually in Arizona, Trump significantly gained in the delayed counting. Probably the only state where that was the case, but he was down big and almost caught up. The election process needs to be cleaned up. Too many ways to vote and methods of delivery. Everything needs to be moved back to the precinct level. The election day volunteers can handle counting 1k ballots in a couple hours and chain of custody is simple. Dumping 400k ballots on someone that has to crosscheck signatures and registrars is this disaster. Frankly early voting, with the exception of absentee, needs to go away everywhere.

There's nothing fraudulent about any of the various voting methods states use, when executed properly. Florida has had early voting since 2004 and we're all impressed with how quickly and accurately they count the votes. Early voting starts in Virginia before the end of September and continues through the Saturday before Election Day, the Commonwealth also counts quickly and when was the last time you saw a disputed election in Virginia? Similarly, Utah has had mail voting since 2012 with no issues.

All of the above should be utilized when it comes to voting methods, so the maximum number of eligible voters can and will participate. Best practices from states like those above should be adopted to ensure that all voting methods are secure and can be tabulated in a reasonable time frame. The bottom line is Republicans know they are a minority, and they count on being a minority that turns out in order to win elections. You want more hoops to jump through and fewer people voting because when more people vote, Republicans win fewer races.

TEchnically, Florida is still counting. It's just that the media is able to make the call due to the amount of votes already counted. and the candidates believe the calls. Florida won't certify for 2 weeks.

(11-10-2022 06:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 06:26 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Laxalts lead in AZ is mostly unchanged. The bigger problem illustrated here is that they've had an entire additional day and only managed to count another 3-4 percent of the vote.

Shenanigans or not, there needs to be a push to get all of the states on par with FL. The demsnl9ve the uncertainty and it creates the aire of impropriety whether there is any or not.

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Laxalts leads in Nevada, Kelly leads in Arizona.

Yeah got them mixed up. Point still stands regarding the election efficiency. Every state should want to be as efficient and quick as FL.

(11-10-2022 09:04 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 08:56 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 07:57 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  The reality is AZ has joined NM, NV, & CO. Blue for good.

& unable to make any gains in the Midwest, election after election, the GOP is dead.

You aren’t looking at the same election returns I am. Arizona and Nevada both are well on their way from flipping from Democratic Senate seats to Republican.

Don’t let the MSM’s narrative affect the truth. Look up the official state election results on their state websites.

A couple of things you might have missed:

1. MSM has already started predicting Nevada was going to flip.
2 In Arizona over 290K same day ballots haven’t even been counted yet.

Regardless of what CNN or MSNBC says Republicans are taking over the Senate as well as the House

I thought NV left to go was all Clark County, w/ the D gaining already, & AZ Maricopa mail-in ballots?

I thought I heard Lake yesterday on Hannity saying lot of same day ballots haven't been counted, but Maricopa is Blue.

Here is a link to the Nevada count by county

https://silverstateelection.nv.gov/USSenate/

88% of Clark has been counted. I would expect Nevada to be called for Republican Laxalt sometime late today or tomorrow.

Maricopa County in Arizona is very blue. The rest of the state, not so much. The strange thing is the number of votes Lake and Masters are getting from Maricopa.

https://apps.arizona.vote/info/bps/2022-...ction/33/0

All Masters needs is to get above 60% of the same day votes to win. Keep in mind same day votes are breaking above 70% for Republicans.

I doubt you see Arizona called quickly because they are slow playing the votes to make it look closer than it is.

Keep in mind Masters got zero support from the National Republican Party. Mitch will not be happy with Republicans winning Arizona.

Its inexcusable not to have the results on election day. The problem lies clearly with the poor planning of the states now having problems. Most of it due to the foolish idea to not start counting any ballot until election day. Im not claiming as others that there is some nefarious plot afoot. I honestly don't believe that. The problem is that this stuff erodes the confidence in our elections. Once that confidence is eroded the system has failed.

(11-10-2022 09:09 AM)fsquid Wrote:  TEchnically, Florida is still counting. It's just that the media is able to make the call due to the amount of votes already counted. and the candidates believe the calls. Florida won't certify for 2 weeks.

But they DO start counting absentee ballots when they are received...not on election day. This seems to be the biggest problem. Its totally unfair to put these workers under this type of stress and it is unnecessary.

(11-10-2022 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 06:26 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  The bigger problem illustrated here is that they've had an entire additional day and only managed to count another 3-4 percent of the vote.

Yeah...so? They're not counting the normal run of the mill in person election day votes now. They're counting provisional ballots, special cases...maybe mail-in ballots, etc. These things take longer.

Why you guys continually get hung up on this stuff that's happened everywhere for years is beyond me. You only notice it here because the races are close and we now have real time updates almost as they happen where we had no such thing several years ago. Are you aware that Alaska has only counted 80% of their votes so far? Ohio is still counting...so is Florida...Texas...Indiana...

The only thing I can suggest is to get involved. Go work at an elections board or clerk's office and see what they're actually doing.

AZ only 69% in this morning. NV 83%, CO 88%. FL 99%, OH 97%, NC 98%. Makes no sense why those states with smaller populations and fewer population centers take so long. AZ should be particularly scrutinized given the issues two years ago and more issues this year. There should really be an effort to modernize, upgrade, whatever so that they can be on par with the more populated states. If anything elections should be easier in AZ/NV/CO versus the east coast states.

CA should also figure out how to do better. They have several house races under 60% still.

I've always given AK a break just because of the size and remoteness of some of the locations whether deserved or not, just always made sense to me they would need a couple days.

(11-10-2022 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 06:26 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  The bigger problem illustrated here is that they've had an entire additional day and only managed to count another 3-4 percent of the vote.

Yeah...so? They're not counting the normal run of the mill in person election day votes now. They're counting provisional ballots, special cases...maybe mail-in ballots, etc. These things take longer.

Why you guys continually get hung up on this stuff that's happened everywhere for years is beyond me. You only notice it here because the races are close and we now have real time updates almost as they happen where we had no such thing several years ago. Are you aware that Alaska has only counted 80% of their votes so far? Ohio is still counting...so is Florida...Texas...Indiana...

The only thing I can suggest is to get involved. Go work at an elections board or clerk's office and see what they're actually doing.

We know you support incompetence, all leftists do. It's in your blood.



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(11-10-2022 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 09:09 AM)fsquid Wrote:  TEchnically, Florida is still counting. It's just that the media is able to make the call due to the amount of votes already counted. and the candidates believe the calls. Florida won't certify for 2 weeks.

But they DO start counting absentee ballots when they are received...not on election day. This seems to be the biggest problem. Its totally unfair to put these workers under this type of stress and it is unnecessary.

I agree 100%, its antiquated.

I don't see this excuse or claim having much merit after losing half of the bell weather states this go around.

(11-10-2022 06:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 06:26 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Laxalts lead in AZ is mostly unchanged. The bigger problem illustrated here is that they've had an entire additional day and only managed to count another 3-4 percent of the vote.

Shenanigans or not, there needs to be a push to get all of the states on par with FL. The demsnl9ve the uncertainty and it creates the aire of impropriety whether there is any or not.

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Laxalts leads in Nevada, Kelly leads in Arizona.

You left out the most important detail:

Laxalt leads in Nevada with 88% of the state’s only Democrat county already. The remaining votes left to count are from primarily Republican counties.

In Arizona Kelly isn’t building a big enough lead in Maricopa to overcome Republican votes out in the state. Same day ballots are breaking above 70% for Republicans.

(11-10-2022 07:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 07:45 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:58 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Arizona is particularly disturbing where the current Democrat candidate for governor is also overseeing the actual election count.

Were you equally offended when Kemp in GA oversaw his own election and runoff?

This is just the same old nonsense we saw back in 2020. A bunch of people who have no concept of the process screaming that something nefarious is happening.

My question is simple Tom. They had the same issues two years ago. Why did this not get fixed? It's piss poor and as you clearly state it leads to lack of confidence in the vote. Why is this still happening?

Neither side should trust elections depending on who is in charge off oversight and counting.

This system earns an enormous no confidence vote.

(11-10-2022 09:38 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 06:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 06:26 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Laxalts lead in AZ is mostly unchanged. The bigger problem illustrated here is that they've had an entire additional day and only managed to count another 3-4 percent of the vote.

Shenanigans or not, there needs to be a push to get all of the states on par with FL. The demsnl9ve the uncertainty and it creates the aire of impropriety whether there is any or not.

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Laxalts leads in Nevada, Kelly leads in Arizona.

You left out the most important detail:

Laxalt leads in Nevada with 88% of the state’s only Democrat county already. The remaining votes left to count are from primarily Republican counties.

In Arizona Kelly isn’t building a big enough lead in Maricopa to overcome Republican votes out in the state. Same day ballots are breaking above 70% for Republicans.

When all the drop box and mailers roll in Laxalt will lose by several points. It's how Nevada do.

(11-10-2022 09:37 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  I don't see this excuse or claim having much merit after losing half of the bell weather states this go around.

Half? The Republican Party lost one Senate seat… Pennsylvania

The Republicans have already won … Nevada
Its over there except the Democrats crying

Arizona is counting is being slow rolled in Maricopa County because they know they’ve lost.

Arizona will give Republicans the Senate and make whatever happens in Georgia not matter.

(11-10-2022 09:38 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 06:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 06:26 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Laxalts lead in AZ is mostly unchanged. The bigger problem illustrated here is that they've had an entire additional day and only managed to count another 3-4 percent of the vote.

Shenanigans or not, there needs to be a push to get all of the states on par with FL. The demsnl9ve the uncertainty and it creates the aire of impropriety whether there is any or not.

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Laxalts leads in Nevada, Kelly leads in Arizona.

You left out the most important detail:

Laxalt leads in Nevada with 88% of the state’s only Democrat county already. The remaining votes left to count are from primarily Republican counties.

In Arizona Kelly isn’t building a big enough lead in Maricopa to overcome Republican votes out in the state. Same day ballots are breaking above 70% for Republicans.

If Nevada and Arizona does end up playing out as you and I see it, the Republicans will take the Senate in addition to the House and if Walker wins the runoff in Georgia, the Republicans could claim 52 Senators which is what most expected would indicate a wave. A few thought 53 or 54 was possible but unlikely. The delayed voting in multiple states have left the indication the Dems have won. The media and the Democrat messaging folks have benefitted greatly from this vote counting delay to win the narrative.

Most forget that Biden lost 14 House seats in 2020 when he won, which is almost unheard of. Those 14 and the possible 10-25 more in the midterms is a wave. Few ever thought Republicans could take more than that because redistricting has almost eliminated the potential for many flips in the future.

(11-10-2022 09:42 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Neither side should trust elections depending on who is in charge off oversight and counting.

This system earns an enormous no confidence vote.

Yep. Allowing mail in voting and delaying counting of absentee ballots until election day has caused a clusterfck. Im all for weeks long early voting and even changing election day to a Saturday if needed to help people get out to vote... but what we are doing now has eroded confidence in the system.

(11-10-2022 09:46 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 09:37 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  I don't see this excuse or claim having much merit after losing half of the bell weather states this go around.

Half? The Republican Party lost one Senate seat… Pennsylvania

The Republicans have already won … Nevada
Its over there except the Democrats crying

Arizona is counting is being slow rolled in Maricopa County because they know they’ve lost.

Arizona will give Republicans the Senate and make whatever happens in Georgia not matter.

The Republicans are on track to lose in Nevada. Arizona - Lake should pull it out by 2-3 points, Masters will be within a half point.

Y'all are forgetting the House lies with California. They aren't even halfway through counting and NO ONE is giving it any attention. Cat chasing the laser while his food bowl is taken away.

(11-10-2022 06:25 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:58 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Arizona is particularly disturbing where the current Democrat candidate for governor is also overseeing the actual election count.

She recussed herself from the counting. So she is not involved. Republicans and Democrats in these states agreed with mail in ballets and all that. The mail in ballets in Arizona are usually are in favor of the Republicans. Nevada have out of state votes from military people and people who are working outside of the country.

The problem is there are delay counts in every state. Alaska is a slow count as well with a Democart leading big over Palin. That race have not been called yet either. It is in every state that have some type of delays for some reasons because of the large populated areas. They are still counting votes in Florida as well.

With all due respect David, that is a load of BS.

Arizona has still not released a count of 1/3rd of the vote, and they have already said most of that is day of voting.

There is no excuse under the sun for still not having those vote counts released this far out. You could have driven from one end of the state to the other about 5 times and counted those ballots about 15 times by now.

This is a load of BS and there is no viable excuse for it.

They are CLEARLY stalling and do not what to release these numbers.

You guys all cry foul when people question election integrity, and then you turn a blind eye and makes excuses for obvious third world tactics like this.