(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

(11-01-2022 08:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 07:20 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 07:09 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 07:05 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 06:37 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Tulane were not punished for a 3 point loss vs. USM. I guess we actually got a mulligan from the CFP there - so that must mean they respect us.

UCF not punished for a home loss to Louisville and a blow out loss to ECU. I love the respect the AAC is getting this year.

.... and there is no reason for it. Other than Tulane beating K-State, the AAC record vs P5 is abysmal.

I think that Cincy's respectable P5 split makes their body of work better than UCF's - but I assume the recency of last week's game is playing into the rankings.

I do not think Cincy's split with their P5 teams was very respectable, at least not by the standards of being ranked. Arkansas is in 5th place in the SEC west, and Indiana is a 3-5 basket case. So IMO, they played one mediocre and one bad P5 and went 1-1 against them.

Arkansas does play Liberty (!!), LSU and Ole Miss coming up. If they win those games, or two of three, then IMO the Cincy loss will look more respectable.

MC has Arkansas at #29, I'd say they're a little better than mediocre but overall I agree with you on Cincy. Add in the fact that they've struggled against all of their AAC opponents (despite playing 3 of the bottom 5 teams in the league) and there's really no reason to rank them.

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

Why did they do that? It’s mind-boggling. Next year is just about as bad: East Carolina, UNLV and Bowling Green

(11-01-2022 10:29 PM)World Wide Swag Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

Why did they do that? It’s mind-boggling. Next year is just about as bad: East Carolina, UNLV and Bowling Green

Not sure checked their schedules from 2014 to the present. They always schedule a P5 opponent. Looking at their future slates, they've got some really notable names in future years (UT, OU, ND). This year and next year just seem to be anomalies.

(11-01-2022 10:29 PM)World Wide Swag Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

Why did they do that? It’s mind-boggling. Next year is just about as bad: East Carolina, UNLV and Bowling Green

CSU, Hawaii and UConn is the worst non-con schedule I have ever seen. All three were considered to be bottom 5 teams at the time Michigan played them, although UConn has only ended up being about a bottom 15 team.

I plan to go to the Big House for the 1st game of the season next year. Hopefully, my Pirates put up a good showing.

(11-01-2022 11:32 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  I plan to go to the Big House for the 1st game of the season next year. Hopefully, my Pirates put up a good showing.

Suggestion: If you can't get a seat between the end zones, don't waste your time or $$$. The end zone views are truly abysmal. You can't see anything on the other half of the field, and so you miss at least half the game, so you're better off watching the game on TV.

Ann Arbor is a lovely college town, though, well worth visiting. Great place to stroll. Nice restaurants and shops.

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

Yeah, and I think that may be why it fell this way. Clemson doesn’t look like a top-four team, but it respects the Wake, NCST, and Syracuse wins more than Michigan’s “best wins” which are just Penn State and Maryland.

I think Clemson is more likely to get jumped by Alabama the next two weeks more than Michigan. Bama’s got LSU and Ole Miss coming up. Michigan gets Rutgers and Nebraska…that’s not quality, and is not as good as what Clemson has coming up the next two weeks.

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

At least they didn't play an FCS team. Oh that's right, neither has Alabama, they don't play their FCS game until November

(11-02-2022 06:04 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

At least they didn't play an FCS team. Oh that's right, neither has Alabama, they don't play their FCS game until November

Really, Michigan played three teams that may as well be FCS. Bama played UT in Austin. Cmon man.

(11-02-2022 06:16 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:04 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

At least they didn't play an FCS team. Oh that's right, neither has Alabama, they don't play their FCS game until November

Really, Michigan played three teams that may as well be FCS. Bama played UT in Austin. Cmon man.

Nine conference games vs. eight.

BTW... To the OP, why a BASEBALL and not a football?

(11-02-2022 06:55 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:16 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:04 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

At least they didn't play an FCS team. Oh that's right, neither has Alabama, they don't play their FCS game until November

Really, Michigan played three teams that may as well be FCS. Bama played UT in Austin. Cmon man.

Nine conference games vs. eight.

BTW... To the OP, why a BASEBALL and not a football?

I'm struggling to even understand what you're getting at so I'm just going to assume you're trying to make a dumb joke

(11-01-2022 06:27 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Surprise - Tennessee #1 - I thought GA was a lock for that

Alabama out of the CFP!

Tennessee has 2 top 10 wins right now in Alabama and LSU. That will go a long ways.

(11-02-2022 06:55 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:16 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:04 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

At least they didn't play an FCS team. Oh that's right, neither has Alabama, they don't play their FCS game until November

Really, Michigan played three teams that may as well be FCS. Bama played UT in Austin. Cmon man.

Nine conference games vs. eight.

BTW... To the OP, why a BASEBALL and not a football?

Alabama SOS right now #18 in the country vs #69 for Michigan. 5 top 30 games vs 1 top 30 game.

9th conference game doesn't remotely excuse the putrid Michigan schedule.

(11-02-2022 08:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:55 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:16 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:04 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

At least they didn't play an FCS team. Oh that's right, neither has Alabama, they don't play their FCS game until November

Really, Michigan played three teams that may as well be FCS. Bama played UT in Austin. Cmon man.

Nine conference games vs. eight.

BTW... To the OP, why a BASEBALL and not a football?

Alabama SOS right now #18 in the country vs #69 for Michigan. 5 top 30 games vs 1 top 30 game.

9th conference game doesn't remotely excuse the putrid Michigan schedule.

I think you all have made some very good points, Michigan is where they should be based on strength of schedule. They have everything they need to make the playoff in front of them including a date against Ohio State. If they win out they'll be in but if they lose a game their OOC schedule is going to come back to haunt them.

I would expect Michigan to roll the next two weeks. But if Clemson just eeks on by Notre Dame or Louisville, and gets jumped by Michigan? I will have a problem with that. Also, one of Michigan’s best wins is about to look a little less impressive because of the PSU-UMD head-to-head in two weeks.

I do expect Alabama to jump up, maybe even overtake the fourth spot over an undefeated team with the upcoming two games. I think that’s fair, too.

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

Maybe not in today's rankings, but for Michigan those games may pay dividends in the long run. IMO, if Michigan wins out, they are in the playoffs for sure. If they lose a game, they are almost certainly out, and unless they were playing really tough OOC games that is likely the way it would be anyway. Playing those three easy OOC games could give them the breathers they need to be at full strength for the tough games.

(11-02-2022 08:15 AM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 08:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:55 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:16 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:04 AM)schmolik Wrote:  At least they didn't play an FCS team. Oh that's right, neither has Alabama, they don't play their FCS game until November

Really, Michigan played three teams that may as well be FCS. Bama played UT in Austin. Cmon man.

Nine conference games vs. eight.

BTW... To the OP, why a BASEBALL and not a football?

Alabama SOS right now #18 in the country vs #69 for Michigan. 5 top 30 games vs 1 top 30 game.

9th conference game doesn't remotely excuse the putrid Michigan schedule.

I think you all have made some very good points, Michigan is where they should be based on strength of schedule. They have everything they need to make the playoff in front of them including a date against Ohio State. If they win out they'll be in but if they lose a game their OOC schedule is going to come back to haunt them.

Completely agree with you. Just wild for them- 1st 10 games only 1 close to tough game- but then 3 in a row to end the year in Illinois(how crazy to be typing that), Ohio St, and then the conference title game. And no mulligans for them with the bad schedule- them at 11-1 losing to only Ohio St has no chance of making the playoff.

(11-02-2022 08:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 09:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-01-2022 08:44 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Most surprising to me is that Michigan and Bama are ranked behind Clemson. I'm not trying to bag on Clemson but they haven't looked nearly as good as anyone in the top 7. I expected them to make the playoff but only because 5 of the others in the top 7 all have to play each other. IMO Clemson should be 6th.

Michigan may be the best team in the country but they did themselves no favors by playing the CSU, Hawaii, and UConn for their non-conference slate.

Maybe not in today's rankings, but for Michigan those games may pay dividends in the long run. IMO, if Michigan wins out, they are in the playoffs for sure. If they lose a game, they are almost certainly out, and unless they were playing really tough OOC games that is likely the way it would be anyway. Playing those three easy OOC games could give them the breathers they need to be at full strength for the tough games.

I dunno- if they had played someone good instead of 3 cup cakes, they would have had a very real chance at 11-1. Now they have absolutely no chance in hell at 11-1.

(11-02-2022 07:47 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 06:55 AM)schmolik Wrote:  ... BTW... To the OP, why a BASEBALL and not a football?

I'm struggling to even understand what you're getting at so I'm just going to assume you're trying to make a dumb joke

The icon in the second column of the board showing the the threads is a baseball. If the OP wanted to indicate a sport for this topic, a football icon would seem to be the one to use.