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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-26-2022 02:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (11-23-2022 08:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon has released their tax returns except for Trump.
...and none were required to do so. This trend is the exception to the rule...not the historical standard. Be careful what you wish for. This sets a precedent that I guarantee will grow, expand and be used as a political tool by BOTH gangs. It sets a bad precedent going forward. This only will drive MORE of a wedge between the two gangs and the citizens. There is a reason the founders did not require such a thing to become POTUS. They were 100x smarter than the doofuses in charge now.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-26-2022 02:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (11-23-2022 08:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon has released their tax returns except for Trump.
...and none were required to do so. This trend is the exception to the rule...not the historical standard. Be careful what you wish for. This sets a precedent that I guarantee will grow, expand and be used as a political tool by BOTH gangs. It sets a bad precedent going forward. This only will drive MORE of a wedge between the two gangs and the citizens. There is a reason the founders did not require such a thing to become POTUS. They were 100x smarter than the doofuses in charge now.
We need more financial transparency. Clinton and Bush both used blind trusts, Obama didn’t have any assets that created a conflict of interest, and trump traveled to his hotels charging the secret service full rate into his pocket.
Individual stock positions should be banned for congress and the president. Broad index funds only. Trading even of index funds should be prohibited when in direct knowledge of non public knowledge through committee positions. If I can live with being on the Restricted Trading List for a publicly traded company our politicians can manage as well.
Tax returns should be mandated to be public for both congress and the president, and conflict of interest laws should require divesting divesting ownership of companies likely to benefit on election.
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Fo Shizzle
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-26-2022 03:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (11-23-2022 08:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon has released their tax returns except for Trump.
...and none were required to do so. This trend is the exception to the rule...not the historical standard. Be careful what you wish for. This sets a precedent that I guarantee will grow, expand and be used as a political tool by BOTH gangs. It sets a bad precedent going forward. This only will drive MORE of a wedge between the two gangs and the citizens. There is a reason the founders did not require such a thing to become POTUS. They were 100x smarter than the doofuses in charge now.
We need more financial transparency. Clinton and Bush both used blind trusts, Obama didn’t have any assets that created a conflict of interest, and trump traveled to his hotels charging the secret service full rate into his pocket.
Individual stock positions should be banned for congress and the president. Broad index funds only. Trading even of index funds should be prohibited when in direct knowledge of non public knowledge through committee positions. If I can live with being on the Restricted Trading List for a publicly traded company our politicians can manage as well.
Tax returns should be mandated to be public for both congress and the president, and conflict of interest laws should require divesting divesting ownership of companies likely to benefit on election.
There is a process in order to change the Constitutional requirements for being POTUS. Until that? It's not required in any fashion what so ever.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Quote:Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
You're looking at this the wrong way. They're more than likely not looking for anything at all that would be criminal as the IRS would have already found that if it were there. What his tax returns would show is where his money is coming from. And if that involves receiving money from foreign governments or foreign heads of state while he's advocating for or against US government positions in relation to those foreign governments or heads of states...yeah...to many, that's a problem. If he's making money off of political positions, that's an issue...and not necessarily criminal at all.
So yeah, they would be 100% useful for that purpose.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
Oh yeah, I'm sure there's a line on his 1040 that reads "money from Russia".
Good grief what a stretch you people make. You apparently don't even realize how seriously stupid that sounded.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-28-2022 11:07 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Oh yeah, I'm sure there's a line on his 1040 that reads "money from Russia".
Good grief what a stretch you people make. You apparently don't even realize how seriously stupid that sounded.
Yeah, I have no idea where they'd expect to see anything resembling what he described on the tax return.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-28-2022 10:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Quote:Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
You're looking at this the wrong way. They're more than likely not looking for anything at all that would be criminal as the IRS would have already found that if it were there. What his tax returns would show is where his money is coming from. And if that involves receiving money from foreign governments or foreign heads of state while he's advocating for or against US government positions in relation to those foreign governments or heads of states...yeah...to many, that's a problem. If he's making money off of political positions, that's an issue...and not necessarily criminal at all.
So yeah, they would be 100% useful for that purpose.
On his actual personal tax return you will most likely only see the income received from the various companies he has an interest in. Along with probably a long list of forward losses.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-28-2022 11:24 AM)fsquid Wrote: (11-28-2022 10:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Quote:Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
You're looking at this the wrong way. They're more than likely not looking for anything at all that would be criminal as the IRS would have already found that if it were there. What his tax returns would show is where his money is coming from. And if that involves receiving money from foreign governments or foreign heads of state while he's advocating for or against US government positions in relation to those foreign governments or heads of states...yeah...to many, that's a problem. If he's making money off of political positions, that's an issue...and not necessarily criminal at all.
So yeah, they would be 100% useful for that purpose.
On his actual personal tax return you will most likely only see the income received from the various companies he has an interest in. Along with probably a long list of forward losses.
which is why they want them ... the DNC will fund a high-level accounting firm to dissect all and every return he's associated with ... they'll then generate a narrative that plays into a higher level of Ponzi...
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-28-2022 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote: (11-28-2022 11:07 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Oh yeah, I'm sure there's a line on his 1040 that reads "money from Russia".
Good grief what a stretch you people make. You apparently don't even realize how seriously stupid that sounded.
Yeah, I have no idea where they'd expect to see anything resembling what he described on the tax return.
You didn't really need to admit that you don't have any idea how this works...it was more than evident already.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
If Trump cheated on his taxes I say BRAVO!
TAXES ARE THEFT!
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-28-2022 11:37 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote: If Trump cheated on his taxes I say BRAVO!
TAXES ARE THEFT!
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-28-2022 11:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-28-2022 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote: (11-28-2022 11:07 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Oh yeah, I'm sure there's a line on his 1040 that reads "money from Russia".
Good grief what a stretch you people make. You apparently don't even realize how seriously stupid that sounded.
Yeah, I have no idea where they'd expect to see anything resembling what he described on the tax return.
You didn't really need to admit that you don't have any idea how this works...it was more than evident already.
Nah, I know exactly how tax returns work. This is purely political, and I expect the rhetoric to only heat up now that Trump had declared he's running for POTUS. There's only one reason the D's are doing this, and they are counting on their followers to not have clue. It's a strategy that's worked well for them.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-26-2022 02:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (11-23-2022 08:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon has released their tax returns except for Trump.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon, except Ross Perot, has been a career politician. Their income and taxes are honed for public review for decades.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-28-2022 12:03 PM)Claw Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (11-23-2022 08:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon has released their tax returns except for Trump.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon, except Ross Perot, has been a career politician. Their income and taxes are honed for public review for decades.
Where in Biden*s return is the line item showing 10% for the big guy? This is why moving forward with this is going to hurt dems more than Trump.
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-28-2022 12:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (11-28-2022 12:03 PM)Claw Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (11-23-2022 08:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon has released their tax returns except for Trump.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon, except Ross Perot, has been a career politician. Their income and taxes are honed for public review for decades.
Where in Biden*s return is the line item showing 10% for the big guy? This is why moving forward with this is going to hurt dems more than Trump.
Take a look and report back to us...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/up...eturns.pdf
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RE: House Committee DENIED by Supreme Court on Trump's Tax Returns
(11-28-2022 12:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (11-28-2022 12:03 PM)Claw Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (11-26-2022 02:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (11-23-2022 08:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Having spent 50 years as a tax practitioner preparing individual, corporate, partnership, trust, and estate tax returns,I fail to see any useful information that can be provided by Donald Trump's (or anyone else's) tax returns. Fodder for character assassination? Yes. Useful and relevant information? Nope.
Exactly. My biggest issue is this whole concept of "let us look at as much private information as possible so we can maybe find something we can interpret as a crime". In America, we dont investigate people---we investigate crimes. If you dont know what he did wrong---then you dont really have any basis to be looking at that individual.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon has released their tax returns except for Trump.
Every major presidential candidate since Richard Nixon, except Ross Perot, has been a career politician. Their income and taxes are honed for public review for decades.
Where in Biden*s return is the line item showing 10% for the big guy? This is why moving forward with this is going to hurt dems more than Trump.
Exactly. Hunter had to "borrow" $2million+ to cover his evasion. So Joe is upside down about $200k. As if Trump's returns having been reviewed more than a porno mag found in the woods by 12 year old boys by now.
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