(10-24-2022 06:35 PM)Todor Wrote:  It’s difficult not to notice that there was no major conflict with Russia before the coup. And there was no coup before the Americans got involved. And there not widespread attacks on infrastructure before the Kerch Strait bridge was bombed.

Those are probably all just coincidences though.

LOL. Everything was quiet in Georgia until the Russian Army invaded and starting killing people. Everything was quiet in Ukraine until the Russian Army rolled in with tanks in 2014 shooting everyone in sight. Everything was quiet 2022 in Ukraine until Russian tanks entered the nation on 3 different fronts and started bombing cities. Geez Louise---talk about coincidences---maybe the take away is that its just bad for a nations health to share a border with a violent expansionist third world rogue regime with delusions of grandeur-----and maybe its just bad for peace in general when bad behavior by trashy third world regimes is ignored. Just thinking out loud---but I think I may be onto something.

Why is it our business?

(10-24-2022 07:25 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why is it our business?

it's not ... but for some 'unknown' reason (yeah, you and many others know why) it is...

full tard stop afgahny ... start another ... then start another ... then another ... muh patterns...

/sarc

(10-24-2022 07:25 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why is it our business?

Because rich people in this country make enormous profits out of the chaos. But they need someone else (us) to pay the expenses so they don’t have much at risk.

(10-24-2022 07:46 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 07:25 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why is it our business?

Because rich people in this country make enormous profits out of the chaos. But they need someone else (us) to pay the expenses so they don’t have much at risk.

It was a rhetorical question :)

In a 100% reversal of fortunes, Donbas has lights while western Ukraine are the ones sitting in the dark. Now, I doubt Kiev etc will have 8 years of sporadic electricity, but if they did, it would be more than fitting. Maybe the new US troops can help get the lights on? I’m sure we’re paying for it anyway.

(10-24-2022 07:25 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why is it our business?

Because we have seen twice in the last century what happens when we ignore the actions of a cruel expansionist regime in Europe.

To ignore it is to empower your enemies.

Do you really think Russia would have stopped at Ukraine if we sat idly by and watched them take it?

I prefer to see our enemies cut off at the knees without our citizens on the front lines.

This has also allowed the world to see how absolutely inept and powerless the Russian military truly is. The US lost about 225 troops per day in world war 2. Russia is losing 500-700 per day fighting the second poorest nation in Europe.

(10-24-2022 06:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 06:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 03:29 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Whatever grievance you have, take it up with Putin or Zelynsky (or however you spell his name) since they're the ones responsible for this bullcrap. To sit there and "rejoice" over the pain and suffering of a people who just want to be left alone is wrong, and there is nothing that can justify it. Nothing at all.

May God have mercy on your souls. All of you. (And if you don't like this post, well, too bad because nobody should rejoice in the suffering of others, even enemies.)

which is how many of us have tried to frame it in perspective ... personally, I blame on bidet* for giving the green light beforehand...

the fact bidet* & corp. are shelling out billions of taxpayers' $$$ to essentially subsidize genocide is beyond disgusting in my book...

All the war fan bois are discovering that bad shite happens in war.

I understand that completely. What I will never understand is how some people can take pleasure in the suffering of innocents whose only mistake is being in the wrong place at the wrong time. They did not ask for this war at all, regardless of who their head of government happens to be or which side of the conflict their country happens to be on.

(And for the record, I don't consider myself a so-called "fan boi" of war. I hate seeing innocent people suffer needlessly for something they didn't do and people gleefully posting about it.)

(11-02-2022 07:09 PM)Todor Wrote:  In a 100% reversal of fortunes, Donbas has lights while western Ukraine are the ones sitting in the dark. Now, I doubt Kiev etc will have 8 years of sporadic electricity, but if they did, it would be more than fitting. Maybe the new US troops can help get the lights on? I’m sure we’re paying for it anyway.

No need for any US troops. The Ukrainians have proven to be quite good at killing Russian Orcs in the dark. Speaking of needing help, hows the defense of Kherson going? Also----because we are all concerned----does the massive super duper Russian manufacturing sector, which is of course completely unaffected by sanctions, need any help making flying moped Iranian drones?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pow...reappshare

Power outages still on the increase in Kiev and other western cities. Scheduled outages lasting 8 or more hours per day. Party on the Maidan. Victoria Nuland can hand out candles with the cookies this round.

Bet Ukies are starting to wake up to what the US dragged then into. The more advice they take from the US, the worse off they get. Why, you ask? Because we want to “get Russia, get Russia, get Russia” so bad we’ll sacfrifice anyone (except ourselves) to accomplish that goal. And after this is done, the globalist deep state is just going to start in on the next country that borders Russia and run thru the entire playbook all over again.

(10-24-2022 07:25 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why is it our business?

Because war is our business. Our entire economy is built around the IMC. The tail has wagged the dog since WWII despite the warning from Ike that this would happen.

(11-05-2022 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 07:25 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why is it our business?

Because war is our business. Our entire economy is built around the IMC. The tail has wagged the dog since WWII despite the warning from Ike that this would happen.

A refreshingly honest answer.

(11-05-2022 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 07:25 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why is it our business?

Because war is our business. Our entire economy is built around the IMC. The tail has wagged the dog since WWII despite the warning from Ike that this would happen.

If it weren’t for all of the war, we’d be the richest country in the world.

(11-05-2022 11:36 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 07:25 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why is it our business?

Because war is our business. Our entire economy is built around the IMC. The tail has wagged the dog since WWII despite the warning from Ike that this would happen.

If it weren’t for all of the war, we’d be the richest country in the world.

When you say “we” do you mean Russia or the US?

Ukraine now has contingency plans for the evacuation of 3 million residents of Kiev should grid failure make impossible to keep the lights on, even in the capital.

The backers that so encouraged this war are now encouraging Zelensky to talk to Russia, but a government decree passed makes that an impossibility for now. We will see what the first snow does to that decree.

Apparently, as nearly 1000 body bags a day arrive in Russia, its becoming more and more difficult for Russian state TV to spin this folly as a "success". Now even military commanders on the ground are starting to be openly defied by their own conscripts. I suspect a month or two more of this kind of "success" should be enough for Russia to proclaim "victory".