https://csnbbs.com/thread-958343.html

Apparently it’s a done deal and each member will be earning on average of $31.7m from 2025-2030. And apparently this does not include 2nd and 3rd tier rights.

I was thinking about what this means for the ACC. If their was an opportunity to expand with anyone from the BigXII, that time won’t come back around again for 8 more years.

Brett McMurphy:

Big 12 agrees to new 6-year media rights deal w/ESPN & Fox thru 2031 worth about $2.3 billion ($380 million/year), sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. 1st report @SBJ. Add in @CFBPlayoff & NCAA revenue, Big 12 revenue will be $50M/school despite losing OU/UT (currently $42M/school)


$50 MILLION ......Big 12 blowing the ACC out of the water for the next 14 years.


Sad part is, they aren't the competition.....the P2 are. ACC has been in denial for years and has never learned. Mistake after mistake.

The devil is in the details. Most of these figures suffer from a true comparison. Nole fans I'd wait before panicking.

I posted this comment in another thread, but works here as well.

So just how much does this new deal with the Big12 hurts the ACC in hopes of renegotiating their deal with ESPN??? IMO if the PAC gets something of a similar deal then ESPN is going to tell the ACC they need to be happy with their deal and STFU. The Big12 with this new deal will be able to renegotiate yet another TV deal before this horrific deal the ACC is tied to. Yea some will say security bla bla bla, but if anything this is nothing but purgatory for all its members to see everyone else able to cash in. Hopefully some good news will come sooner than later, but doubt it will come about.

Let's compare it with the ACC money.

The ACC television revenue was $397.4 M for 2020-2021 including ND
Without ND, it would have been $370.91M. The ACC TV money increases at 4.1 percent per year (the ACCN revenue increases faster but let's try to be conservative).

2020-2021 $370.91
2021-2022 $386.23
2022-2023 $402.19
2023-2024 $418.81
2024-2025 $436.12
2025-2026 $454.14
2026-2027 $472.91
2027-2028 $492.45
2028-2029 $512.80
2029-2030 $533.99
2030-2031 $556.05
Six Year Average 2526-30/31 $503.72
Average Payout per team $35.98

The B12 money doesn't include Tier 3 but the ACCN payout was not fully developed in 2020-2021. The inflation does help the B12 but the ACC team will get at least $5 million more than the B12 team.

(10-30-2022 12:04 PM)nole Wrote:  Brett McMurphy:

Big 12 agrees to new 6-year media rights deal w/ESPN & Fox thru 2031 worth about $2.3 billion ($380 million/year), sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. 1st report @SBJ. Add in @CFBPlayoff & NCAA revenue, Big 12 revenue will be $50M/school despite losing OU/UT (currently $42M/school)


$50 MILLION ......Big 12 blowing the ACC out of the water for the next 14 years.


Sad part is, they aren't the competition.....the P2 are. ACC has been in denial for years and has never learned. Mistake after mistake.

$50 million includes the speculated CFBP monies that would also be added to any income the ACC or any other conference receives when the playoffs expand.

(10-30-2022 12:54 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-30-2022 12:04 PM)nole Wrote:  Brett McMurphy:

Big 12 agrees to new 6-year media rights deal w/ESPN & Fox thru 2031 worth about $2.3 billion ($380 million/year), sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. 1st report @SBJ. Add in @CFBPlayoff & NCAA revenue, Big 12 revenue will be $50M/school despite losing OU/UT (currently $42M/school)


$50 MILLION ......Big 12 blowing the ACC out of the water for the next 14 years.


Sad part is, they aren't the competition.....the P2 are. ACC has been in denial for years and has never learned. Mistake after mistake.

$50 million includes the speculated CFBP monies that would also be added to any income the ACC or any other conference receives when the playoffs expand.

No it doesn't you need to re-read that XLance. You're looking at the current playoff money in that article (between 67 to 70 million per conference). With the current deal it is at 50 million, it goes up with expanded CFP obviously, but 50 million per school would be the payout if nothing changes. The current payout is just under 43 million. Speculated CFP expansion money would push it into the 60 likely 70 million dollars range:

Big 12 nears six-year, $2.28B TV extension deal with ESPN, Fox

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...l-espn-fox

Pete Thamel:

The overall value of the Big 12's media deal is expected to increase from $220 million annually to $380 million. That's an average increase in media-only revenue per school from $22 million to $31.7 million (the $380 million is now divided 12 ways with the addition of BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston)

(10-30-2022 12:40 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  Let's compare it with the ACC money.

The ACC television revenue was $397.4 M for 2020-2021 including ND
Without ND, it would have been $370.91M. The ACC TV money increases at 4.1 percent per year (the ACCN revenue increases faster but let's try to be conservative).

2020-2021 $370.91
2021-2022 $386.23
2022-2023 $402.19
2023-2024 $418.81
2024-2025 $436.12
2025-2026 $454.14
2026-2027 $472.91
2027-2028 $492.45
2028-2029 $512.80
2029-2030 $533.99
2030-2031 $556.05
Six Year Average 2526-30/31 $503.72
Average Payout per team $35.98

The B12 money doesn't include Tier 3 but the ACCN payout was not fully developed in 2020-2021. The inflation does help the B12 but the ACC team will get at least $5 million more than the B12 team.

That's not true, it is the other way around. The Big 12 is making more than the ACC and will continue to because it got a raise. The ACC's revenue is 371 million split between 14 schools and the Big 12 's new deal is 380 million split between 12 with a pro rata increasing it if expansion occurs. And the Big 12's deal is likely increasing per year as well.

(10-30-2022 01:08 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(10-30-2022 12:40 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  Let's compare it with the ACC money.

The ACC television revenue was $397.4 M for 2020-2021 including ND
Without ND, it would have been $370.91M. The ACC TV money increases at 4.1 percent per year (the ACCN revenue increases faster but let's try to be conservative).

2020-2021 $370.91
2021-2022 $386.23
2022-2023 $402.19
2023-2024 $418.81
2024-2025 $436.12
2025-2026 $454.14
2026-2027 $472.91
2027-2028 $492.45
2028-2029 $512.80
2029-2030 $533.99
2030-2031 $556.05
Six Year Average 2526-30/31 $503.72
Average Payout per team $35.98

The B12 money doesn't include Tier 3 but the ACCN payout was not fully developed in 2020-2021. The inflation does help the B12 but the ACC team will get at least $5 million more than the B12 team.

That's not true, it is the other way around. The Big 12 is making more than the ACC and will continue to because it got a raise. The ACC's revenue is 371 million split between 14 schools and the Big 12 's new deal is 380 million split between 12 with a pro rata increasing it if expansion occurs. And the Big 12's deal is likely increasing per year as well.

You have to understand the timing difference.

The ACC got $371 million back in 2020-21. Your new deal starts in 2025-2026. The ACC TV revenue would increase to at least $454 million by then. And the average for the six years from 2025/26 - 2030/31 (same period for the B12’s new deal) would be at least $503.7. That would be $36 million per team.

Let’s assume that UH, UC and UCF are worth $31.7m each. That comes up to be $95m total. The AAC’s contract is/was $7m per team x12 = $84m. So let me get this straight; UCF, UH and UC are worth far more in the BigXII than in the AAC? This does not compute.

The real news here is that the B12 as a whole is likley more valuable than the Pac 12 as a whole, which is struggling to get $30 million per team.

The Pac has strong brands like UO, UW, and Utah and academic heavyweight such as Stanford and Cal. But maybe it’s really true that people in the West Coast don’t watch the college football. Maybe the ACC does have to look at the B12 schools for the expansion.

It is a good day for the Big XII … I offer nothing but congrats to the remaining schools and the new incoming members especially Cincinnati, UCF and Houston

lol gotta love new Big XII fans coming over to rub our noses in their inferior deal.

They did get a few more million than I expected, so good for them.

(10-30-2022 02:08 PM)esayem Wrote:  lol gotta love new Big XII fans coming over to rub our noses in their inferior deal.

They did get a few more million than I expected, so good for them.

The only thing we love more are certain ACC fans who thought that schools like Cincinnati wasn't good enough for the ACC and rubbed it in our face and are now upset that we're just pointing out how well the Big 12 is doing WITHOUT trashing the ACC. Just telling you how the world turns

(10-30-2022 02:45 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

Quote:The league's payment from TV rights is expected to jump by several million dollars per team due to the ACC Network's full carriage agreement with Comcast. Phillips called it "a sizable increase" during his address at ACC Tipoff in October. ...

The ACC received more than $397 million from television rights ... in 2020-21.

ANYTHING YOU CAN DO I CAN DO BETTER

(10-30-2022 02:53 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-30-2022 02:45 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

The cartoon is more applicable to Jon Wilner, John Canzano and Stewart Mandel. They have been repeated wrong about the deal the BXII would sign- Mandel predicted a deal comparable to the AAC and Canzano and Wilber have predicted ~$20M.

(10-30-2022 12:04 PM)nole Wrote:  Brett McMurphy:

Big 12 agrees to new 6-year media rights deal w/ESPN & Fox thru 2031 worth about $2.3 billion ($380 million/year), sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. 1st report @SBJ. Add in @CFBPlayoff & NCAA revenue, Big 12 revenue will be $50M/school despite losing OU/UT (currently $42M/school)


$50 MILLION ......Big 12 blowing the ACC out of the water for the next 14 years.


Sad part is, they aren't the competition.....the P2 are. ACC has been in denial for years and has never learned. Mistake after mistake.

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1586773411119788033

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