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Well, I was wrong. Sorry about that. Was under the impression it would be a different HS Coach, Mark Freeman. Nonetheless, an exciting development for UAB football!
11-30-2022 11:08 AM
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(11-30-2022 11:08 AM)TheBlazersAreBack Wrote:  Well, I was wrong. Sorry about that. Was under the impression it would be a different HS Coach, Mark Freeman. Nonetheless, an exciting development for UAB football!

There wouldn't be the same enthusiasm for Mark Freeman. He's just a high school coach, albeit a really successful one. Dilfer is a lot more.
11-30-2022 11:10 AM
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(11-30-2022 11:10 AM)BatesUAB Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 11:08 AM)TheBlazersAreBack Wrote:  Well, I was wrong. Sorry about that. Was under the impression it would be a different HS Coach, Mark Freeman. Nonetheless, an exciting development for UAB football!

There wouldn't be the same enthusiasm for Mark Freeman. He's just a high school coach, albeit a really successful one. Dilfer is a lot more.

Yeah, I would not have been good with that hire.
11-30-2022 11:12 AM
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(11-30-2022 11:08 AM)TheBlazersAreBack Wrote:  Well, I was wrong. Sorry about that. Was under the impression it would be a different HS Coach, Mark Freeman. Nonetheless, an exciting development for UAB football!

You should have gone with it--no one here would have ever known differently.

You are officially the new board "insider." Tell us more.
11-30-2022 11:20 AM
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Difler is meeting with team today!
11-30-2022 11:21 AM
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(11-30-2022 10:47 AM)Engblazr Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:38 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:33 AM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:30 AM)4thDownBlazer Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 09:34 AM)randy22263 Wrote:  No it is not. (Answer to your first question)

ok well I disagree. It doesn't seem out of the question for a team who has won championships to find a coach with HC experience who has won.

You make it sound like we’ve won SEC championships or something. We’ve won arguably the worst league in the FBS. Is a championship better than no championship? Sure. But that doesn’t really separate us all that much, except from the absolutely cellar of G5 programs.

Right. This version of CUSA is small step up from FCS which is why it's had to resort to taking FCS teams to fill out the league. That's why I've said that what Clark achieved was good but not good enough. UAB football is still largely invisible to the Birmingham market.

UAB being on ESPN networks about 7 times a year will certainly help the visibility. Scrolling through and see a UAB game for a little while and think “hmm I’ll try to make it out to a game in a couple weeks” is a possibility. I mean, we’re currently out of sight out of mind. We win 41-21 in dominating fashion and put up 500+ yards of offense and not a soul knows it happened outside of the loyals because it was hidden away in the deep dark pits of Stadium.

so you are saying our program isn't capable of attracting a proven winning coach ?
11-30-2022 11:21 AM
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(11-30-2022 11:21 AM)4thDownBlazer Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:47 AM)Engblazr Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:38 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:33 AM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:30 AM)4thDownBlazer Wrote:  ok well I disagree. It doesn't seem out of the question for a team who has won championships to find a coach with HC experience who has won.

You make it sound like we’ve won SEC championships or something. We’ve won arguably the worst league in the FBS. Is a championship better than no championship? Sure. But that doesn’t really separate us all that much, except from the absolutely cellar of G5 programs.

Right. This version of CUSA is small step up from FCS which is why it's had to resort to taking FCS teams to fill out the league. That's why I've said that what Clark achieved was good but not good enough. UAB football is still largely invisible to the Birmingham market.

UAB being on ESPN networks about 7 times a year will certainly help the visibility. Scrolling through and see a UAB game for a little while and think “hmm I’ll try to make it out to a game in a couple weeks” is a possibility. I mean, we’re currently out of sight out of mind. We win 41-21 in dominating fashion and put up 500+ yards of offense and not a soul knows it happened outside of the loyals because it was hidden away in the deep dark pits of Stadium.

so you are saying our program isn't capable of attracting a proven winning coach ?

Actually, we got one!
11-30-2022 11:24 AM
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(11-30-2022 11:21 AM)4thDownBlazer Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:47 AM)Engblazr Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:38 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:33 AM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:30 AM)4thDownBlazer Wrote:  ok well I disagree. It doesn't seem out of the question for a team who has won championships to find a coach with HC experience who has won.

You make it sound like we’ve won SEC championships or something. We’ve won arguably the worst league in the FBS. Is a championship better than no championship? Sure. But that doesn’t really separate us all that much, except from the absolutely cellar of G5 programs.

Right. This version of CUSA is small step up from FCS which is why it's had to resort to taking FCS teams to fill out the league. That's why I've said that what Clark achieved was good but not good enough. UAB football is still largely invisible to the Birmingham market.

UAB being on ESPN networks about 7 times a year will certainly help the visibility. Scrolling through and see a UAB game for a little while and think “hmm I’ll try to make it out to a game in a couple weeks” is a possibility. I mean, we’re currently out of sight out of mind. We win 41-21 in dominating fashion and put up 500+ yards of offense and not a soul knows it happened outside of the loyals because it was hidden away in the deep dark pits of Stadium.

so you are saying our program isn't capable of attracting a proven winning coach ?

Not sure at all where you gathered that from what I said. That was in reference to UAB being largely invisible to the Birmingham market. UAB is invisible. Why? Because a total lack of exposure. Throw us winning some games handily on ESPN and you might have a different experience
11-30-2022 11:34 AM
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(11-30-2022 10:16 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  It seems that Clark and Vincent established a bit of a cult of personality. A lot of fans and players are acting like the Clark "family" and coaching tree is bigger than the UAB football program. They got it bass ackwards. UAB is much bigger than one individual or a coaching tree. That mindset is lemming-like, dangerous, and the antithesis to how someone who truly wants the best for the program should think and act.

Clark was a good coach. He led UAB through extremely tough times. He won some championships and established a floor for us. He took us out of the gutter. I am thankful for all of those things. I hate the way he left and how he forced Vincent on us. I hate the way that he and Vincent seemed to have poisoned the well with the players and a lot of the fanbase. Furthermore, Clark and Vincent had gone stale. They had taken the program as far as they could given their coaching philosophy limitations and coaching prowess.

Time to inject some excitement and new blood back into the program.

This is by no means a 100% guaranteed coaching hire, but it at least leaves the door open for the possibility of hitting a home run. The other candidates that were supposedly at the top of the list were old and busted, or just plain ole not good (Vincent).

If the decision was 4-7 wins in perpetuity or the possibility of greatness, I'd take the possibility of greatness every time. Vincent got us 6-6 with what was widely considered on this message board to be the deepest and most talented UAB roster ever with an empty football stadium every week. That is NOT the future you want going into a new conference.

I have to give you credit for this post. It is your best work.
11-30-2022 11:37 AM
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(11-30-2022 11:37 AM)Blazing Saddles Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:16 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  It seems that Clark and Vincent established a bit of a cult of personality. A lot of fans and players are acting like the Clark "family" and coaching tree is bigger than the UAB football program. They got it bass ackwards. UAB is much bigger than one individual or a coaching tree. That mindset is lemming-like, dangerous, and the antithesis to how someone who truly wants the best for the program should think and act.

Clark was a good coach. He led UAB through extremely tough times. He won some championships and established a floor for us. He took us out of the gutter. I am thankful for all of those things. I hate the way he left and how he forced Vincent on us. I hate the way that he and Vincent seemed to have poisoned the well with the players and a lot of the fanbase. Furthermore, Clark and Vincent had gone stale. They had taken the program as far as they could given their coaching philosophy limitations and coaching prowess.

Time to inject some excitement and new blood back into the program.

This is by no means a 100% guaranteed coaching hire, but it at least leaves the door open for the possibility of hitting a home run. The other candidates that were supposedly at the top of the list were old and busted, or just plain ole not good (Vincent).

If the decision was 4-7 wins in perpetuity or the possibility of greatness, I'd take the possibility of greatness every time. Vincent got us 6-6 with what was widely considered on this message board to be the deepest and most talented UAB roster ever with an empty football stadium every week. That is NOT the future you want going into a new conference.

I have to give you credit for this post. It is your best work.

AGREE, AGREE, AGREE (I posted some of the below comments in another thread)

I support the PROGRAM. Like most of you on this board, I back my support with $$. I supported BC and BV (I’m a real BC fan, not so much on BV), but I am not going to be a cult of personality for anyone over promoting the PROGRAM and getting it to the next level.

If Dilfer is our guy, I have one question for him: What can I do as a booster to help you win and build the program? GO BLAZERS!!!!!!
11-30-2022 12:05 PM
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(11-30-2022 11:21 AM)4thDownBlazer Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:47 AM)Engblazr Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:38 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:33 AM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 10:30 AM)4thDownBlazer Wrote:  ok well I disagree. It doesn't seem out of the question for a team who has won championships to find a coach with HC experience who has won.

You make it sound like we’ve won SEC championships or something. We’ve won arguably the worst league in the FBS. Is a championship better than no championship? Sure. But that doesn’t really separate us all that much, except from the absolutely cellar of G5 programs.

Right. This version of CUSA is small step up from FCS which is why it's had to resort to taking FCS teams to fill out the league. That's why I've said that what Clark achieved was good but not good enough. UAB football is still largely invisible to the Birmingham market.

UAB being on ESPN networks about 7 times a year will certainly help the visibility. Scrolling through and see a UAB game for a little while and think “hmm I’ll try to make it out to a game in a couple weeks” is a possibility. I mean, we’re currently out of sight out of mind. We win 41-21 in dominating fashion and put up 500+ yards of offense and not a soul knows it happened outside of the loyals because it was hidden away in the deep dark pits of Stadium.

so you are saying our program isn't capable of attracting a proven winning coach ?

Like who? Please list two coaches that you would preferred we hired. And maybe tell us why either would be a much better hire. I'm curious. I'm not knocking your argument. You may be right.
11-30-2022 12:25 PM
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Anyone subscribe to Split Zone Duo Patreon know why this was the worst head coach search in the history of football?
11-30-2022 12:35 PM
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(11-30-2022 12:35 PM)Engblazr Wrote:  Anyone subscribe to Split Zone Duo Patreon know why this was the worst head coach search in the history of football?

why do you say that
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(11-30-2022 12:35 PM)Engblazr Wrote:  Anyone subscribe to Split Zone Duo Patreon know why this was the worst head coach search in the history of football?

Basically saying Ingram had since July to find a guy. We swung at the fences for Dan Mullen and Tom Herman. He said that Ingram told the board that Mullen would meet with us BUT that never happened. Fuente was even in strong consideration but it fell through due to money.
Helton was the next guy because he really wants out of CUSA, but after 7 months we chose a Jeff Saturday type hire with a Super Bowl winning QB that has only coached a private school and no college coaching resume.
Kept saying that UAB has the clout and facilities and new stadium and expect to be a heavyweight player in the AAC, so they find this high school hire very strange considering it took 7 months.

However, the other co-host said this could be a Deion-lite type hire with his Elite 11 and connections.
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(11-30-2022 12:50 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 12:35 PM)Engblazr Wrote:  Anyone subscribe to Split Zone Duo Patreon know why this was the worst head coach search in the history of football?

why do you say that

Because they tweeted that it was
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My one concern with Dilfer is that we may to do this all over again in just a couple of years, because he becomes the hottest commodity in coaching and gets poached by a P5 program. But that will be a good problem to have.
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(11-30-2022 12:54 PM)bftb Wrote:  My one concern with Dilfer is that we may to do this all over again in just a couple of years, because he becomes the hottest commodity in coaching and gets poached by a P5 program. But that will be a good problem to have.

Also means that a P5 will pay his buyout.
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If it works outIt would also make him the first head coach in UAB history to be hired away for another job.

Until The Return, this place was a bottom three FBS program in my mind, right up there with NMSU and EMU. Now, all three schools have had some bowl games to enjoy.
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(11-30-2022 12:52 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  
(11-30-2022 12:35 PM)Engblazr Wrote:  Anyone subscribe to Split Zone Duo Patreon know why this was the worst head coach search in the history of football?

Basically saying Ingram had since July to find a guy. We swung at the fences for Dan Mullen and Tom Herman. He said that Ingram told the board that Mullen would meet with us BUT that never happened. Fuente was even in strong consideration but it fell through due to money.
Helton was the next guy because he really wants out of CUSA, but after 7 months we chose a Jeff Saturday type hire with a Super Bowl winning QB that has only coached a private school and no college coaching resume.
Kept saying that UAB has the clout and facilities and new stadium and expect to be a heavyweight player in the AAC, so they find this high school hire very strange considering it took 7 months.

However, the other co-host said this could be a Deion-lite type hire with his Elite 11 and connections.

This hire is all about the Money. MI could not get the Committee and the BOT on board to spend the money that was needed to hire these other guys with experience. Not saying Dilfer is a bad hire, I'm getting kind of excited about the possibilities, but let's call it what it is... the BOT has a strangle hold on the purse strings. They will only let MI go so far before they tighten the leash. MI has learned not to push the limits on the money.
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(11-30-2022 11:08 AM)TheBlazersAreBack Wrote:  Well, I was wrong. Sorry about that. Was under the impression it would be a different HS Coach, Mark Freeman. Nonetheless, an exciting development for UAB football!


You seemed to be closer than anyone else but glad you were wrong. Freeman would have not been an exciting hire.
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