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(11-24-2022 09:10 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  OC changes occur in the middle of the year at all levels of football. That was him taking a gamble on himself, and it didn’t pay off. We lost every road game and every close game up to this point. The way he got the interim wasn’t exactly reasonable, and if Clark had retired earlier, would Vincent have even been a candidate?

No, and I seriously doubt he would be a legitimate candidate for any school in the FBS. That's why it's baffling that there are still a number of fans on FB and Twitter advocating for him. Do they even care about the future of UAB football? Saw a post a while back on Twitter that said we have fans that care more about certain people than they do our program and I have to agree.
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(11-24-2022 09:55 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  There are four guys that move the needle for me. Herman, Patterson, Cignetti, and Chadwell in that order for me. If it is any of the others, I don't know if we are really making that big of an improvement. (Don't @ me because I am not arguing with you) If you are going to effectively GUT your program, it better be a statement hire. I do think that there is a surprise candidate that NO ONE has mentioned. He could be a statement hire. Stay tuned, next week falls in line with Ingram's time line.

If it's Fuente, color me unimpressed. If it's a USFL guy, we should just keep BV and force him to hire a dynamic OC and no longer call plays. It isn't worth it. (again I am not arguing with any of you) Oh and Dennis Dodd is guessing. He might end up being right but he is guessing. ;-)

No matter who we select, I'll support because I have skin in the game and this is OUR program. Just like I have supported this season when some have jumped ship.



I'm 50/50 on Fuente, yes he didn't do great at VT but he didn't have a losing record either. He's not the biggest splash name hire, but he was also Gary Patterson's Co-OC when they went undefeated and Rose Bowl champs in 2010.
Doug Gottlieb did a 3 part podcast with him earlier this month. I listened to Part 2 (TCU years) and Part 3 (Memphis and VT). Seems like he didn't realize how north VT was. Said it seems like a Southern school but there were more Northern students than Southern. May have been a bad cultural fit for a Texas guy.

Give it a listen and see how y'all feel about him.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/al...0585874257

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/al...0586344853
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Thanks for posting that. I will.
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(11-24-2022 10:05 AM)blazerblazer Wrote:  
(11-24-2022 09:55 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  There are four guys that move the needle for me. Herman, Patterson, Cignetti, and Chadwell in that order for me. If it is any of the others, I don't know if we are really making that big of an improvement. (Don't @ me because I am not arguing with you) If you are going to effectively GUT your program, it better be a statement hire. I do think that there is a surprise candidate that NO ONE has mentioned. He could be a statement hire. Stay tuned, next week falls in line with Ingram's time line.

If it's Fuente, color me unimpressed. If it's a USFL guy, we should just keep BV and force him to hire a dynamic OC and no longer call plays. It isn't worth it. (again I am not arguing with any of you) Oh and Dennis Dodd is guessing. He might end up being right but he is guessing. ;-)

No matter who we select, I'll support because I have skin in the game and this is OUR program. Just like I have supported this season when some have jumped ship.



I'm 50/50 on Fuente, yes he didn't do great at VT but he didn't have a losing record either. He's not the biggest splash name hire, but he was also Gary Patterson's Co-OC when they went undefeated and Rose Bowl champs in 2010.
Doug Gottlieb did a 3 part podcast with him earlier this month. I listened to Part 2 (TCU years) and Part 3 (Memphis and VT). Seems like he didn't realize how north VT was. Said it seems like a Southern school but there were more Northern students than Southern. May have been a bad cultural fit for a Texas guy.

Give it a listen and see how y'all feel about him.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/al...0585874257

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/al...0586344853

I’m not sold on Fuente at all. His best season was 10-3 and one of the only times the American champ didn’t make a NY6 bowl. His next season they finished third in their division in the American. I’ll excuse the two non bowl eligible seasons because he was cleaning up previous mess. But by year 4 he went 9-3. I just don’t think he’s going to perform near what the expectations are
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https://footballscoop.com/news/an-sec-as...ing-search

No Fuente mention here but a heavy dose of Skip!
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The article mentions talking to FCS coaches. I wonder if KC Keeler from Sam Houston was interviewed:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._C._Keeler

Also wondering if Hatcher has been interviewed. Samford went undefeated in FCS play this year and are the #6 overall team in the FCS playoffs.
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We interviewed Hatcher but he is not a finalist.
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(11-24-2022 11:29 AM)FNblazer Wrote:  The article mentions talking to FCS coaches. I wonder if KC Keeler from Sam Houston was interviewed:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._C._Keeler

Also wondering if Hatcher has been interviewed. Samford went undefeated in FCS play this year and are the #6 overall team in the FCS playoffs.

They said 2021 FCS coaches not 2022, Cignetti was 2021 FCS…
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(11-24-2022 11:34 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  We interviewed Hatcher but he is not a finalist.

If Skippy is in the drivers seat, it probably means nobody any good wanted the job. Hatcher has always had a good passing attack, but has lacked good defense and a running game.
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(11-24-2022 11:20 AM)FNblazer Wrote:  https://footballscoop.com/news/an-sec-as...ing-search

No Fuente mention here but a heavy dose of Skip!

Skip = Lead balloon
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Skip would be a major buzzkill. If that's the best we can do I'd probably rather just keep BV.
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(11-24-2022 11:47 AM)hooverblazer Wrote:  Skip would be a major buzzkill. If that's the best we can do I'd probably rather just keep BV.

He never won a CUSA title correct? I think he was only 1st in the West 3 times and once was tied with UAB.
If he gets the job then can people vote no confidence in Ingram?

Keep him as the Stallions coach though, just not UAB.
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He was 6-1 in bowl games at Louisiana Tech, and some of those wins were impressive (Illinois, Navy, SMU, Hawaii, and Miami).
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Skip won multiple cusa titles at east Carolina when the league was better than now.
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If Skip is seriously being considered that tells me that someone is trying to micromanage “fiscul sponsibility”. You can probably get him on the cheap because there’s not a lot of demand.

I think I’d rather have BV with a dedicated OC. BV can recruit and clearly can win the locker room
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(11-24-2022 11:37 AM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  
(11-24-2022 11:34 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  We interviewed Hatcher but he is not a finalist.

If Skippy is in the drivers seat, it probably means nobody any good wanted the job. Hatcher has always had a good passing attack, but has lacked good defense and a running game.

I would agree with that assumption. Probably means we are being conservative on what we are paying.
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skip is a lot better then Bv , He won at ECU and with the semi pro team ,,,,it is very difficult to win at LA TECH
BV never won a game away from home against no so great competition except LSU
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(11-24-2022 12:18 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  Skip won multiple cusa titles at east Carolina when the league was better than now.

2008 and 2009. He struggled at South Florida, where he only lasted three seasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_Holtz
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Oh Skip "can" win here. For one he won't have to play UAB who cost him three titles. Be ready for our roster to be gutted like a trout. Let's hope that if it is Skippy, he brings Chavis and keeps a lot of the current staff. The question will be how long will it take to re-build? Will the arm chair coaches have the stamina for a major rebuilding job and multiple losing records? Probably if it is quick. Maybe he strikes lightning in a bottle? I am all for a change if we make a statement hire and can re-build quickly. If not I am fine with keeping BV WITH major stipulations and a low buyout. Hate my take if you want but it's mine.
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(11-24-2022 12:37 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  
(11-24-2022 12:18 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  Skip won multiple cusa titles at east Carolina when the league was better than now.

2008 and 2009. He struggled at South Florida, where he only lasted three seasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_Holtz

So has everyone else at south Florida since; the issues down there are more than the coach. He also beat Notre Dame while he was at USF.
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