(11-02-2022 11:19 AM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  This is important for outsiders to understand - Duke can not help being a snake. It is what they are. It is what they have ALWAYS been because of their ego, their money, and their surroundings. This is why the SEC and B10 DO NOT WANT THEM. Duke would cause problems in the Ivy League.

Duke represents the full blossom of Apartheid/Jim Crow/Classism in the American South. At ever step Duke knew what was ethical, Godly, fair, etc., etc. Whatever you want to call it and at every step Duke does what is best for Duke, knowing they have tossed aside their ethics, religion, and morality so that they can exist another day in the catbird seat. They are like the smart, wealthy man whom Jesus really stuck it to in the New Testament - they already know the answer they seek and they don't like the answer.

Everything Duke does is built on this enduring set of dichotomies.

Yep!
Those guys in Durham with some help from the boys in Chapel Hill control the Democrat Party in NC, and pretty much run the State as they see fit.

(11-02-2022 11:39 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 11:19 AM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  This is important for outsiders to understand - Duke can not help being a snake. It is what they are. It is what they have ALWAYS been because of their ego, their money, and their surroundings. This is why the SEC and B10 DO NOT WANT THEM. Duke would cause problems in the Ivy League.

Duke represents the full blossom of Apartheid/Jim Crow/Classism in the American South. At ever step Duke knew what was ethical, Godly, fair, etc., etc. Whatever you want to call it and at every step Duke does what is best for Duke, knowing they have tossed aside their ethics, religion, and morality so that they can exist another day in the catbird seat. They are like the smart, wealthy man whom Jesus really stuck it to in the New Testament - they already know the answer they seek and they don't like the answer.

Everything Duke does is built on this enduring set of dichotomies.

Yep!
Those guys in Durham with some help from the boys in Chapel Hill control the Democrat Party in NC, and pretty much RAN the State as they see fit.

I fixed it for you.

Of course that ignores the fact that until the 1950's there was no Republican Party in NC to speak of prior to Willis Smith and his boy Jessie. I've tried to explain the East and West Democratic Party structure that ran NC after Kenan and the boys killed off Pubs in Wilmington in 1898 and it's amazing how difficult it is for newcomers to understand what was once a one party State but with a geographic split.

We would be better off in NC with an east/west divorce. So would Pa.

The destruction of the normal party evolution process has frozen the nation in the current hellscape.

(11-02-2022 11:19 AM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  This is important for outsiders to understand - Duke can not help being a snake. It is what they are. It is what they have ALWAYS been because of their ego, their money, and their surroundings. This is why the SEC and B10 DO NOT WANT THEM. Duke would cause problems in the Ivy League.

Duke represents the full blossom of Apartheid/Jim Crow/Classism in the American South. At ever step Duke knew what was ethical, Godly, fair, etc., etc. Whatever you want to call it and at every step Duke does what is best for Duke, knowing they have tossed aside their ethics, religion, and morality so that they can exist another day in the catbird seat. They are like the smart, wealthy man whom Jesus really stuck it to in the New Testament - they already know the answer they seek and they don't like the answer.

Everything Duke does is built on this enduring set of dichotomies.

*sniff sniff*

Smells like our old banned Wolfpacknik.

(11-02-2022 12:37 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 11:19 AM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  This is important for outsiders to understand - Duke can not help being a snake. It is what they are. It is what they have ALWAYS been because of their ego, their money, and their surroundings. This is why the SEC and B10 DO NOT WANT THEM. Duke would cause problems in the Ivy League.

Duke represents the full blossom of Apartheid/Jim Crow/Classism in the American South. At ever step Duke knew what was ethical, Godly, fair, etc., etc. Whatever you want to call it and at every step Duke does what is best for Duke, knowing they have tossed aside their ethics, religion, and morality so that they can exist another day in the catbird seat. They are like the smart, wealthy man whom Jesus really stuck it to in the New Testament - they already know the answer they seek and they don't like the answer.

Everything Duke does is built on this enduring set of dichotomies.

*sniff sniff*

Smells like our old banned Wolfpacknik.

I was thinking the same about 2 days ago. Today the Jim Crow reference resonated heavily.

(10-29-2022 05:52 PM)jpw67 Wrote:  

(10-29-2022 06:39 AM)XLance Wrote:  It's an interesting question.

I have always felt that Syracuse would be much more relevant in the ACC with Maryland's presence in the league and that Georgia Tech would benefit from another close opponent with a large traveling fan base.

Both Maryland and South Carolina would be better off in the ACC than in their current situations even with the monetary discrepancies.
Unfortunately realignment is not based on what is good for individual schools or their conferences, but rather what is the most profitable for their media partners.

If anyone was in a horse trading frame of mind and wanted to keep the ACC at 14:
Louisville for South Carolina (almost a dead even gross revenue swap)
Pitt for Maryland.
Personal feelings aside, the conferences would be better off in the long run.

I'd absolutely go for this.

The schools would be better off, but it probably wouldn't be the money maker that networks want.

(10-24-2022 02:24 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 02:33 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Forget about the tv money for now, the ACC can negotiate better 13 years from now. So what if UMd and USCe are not happy with their current conferences expansion toward the West, they see a small window to rejoin the ACC before the ACC becomes full.

Would you as a fan like to see these 2 back?

Would the ACC take them back?

How would the fans from these 2 schools feel about being back in the ACC?

Neither school has an interest in leaving the stability of their P2 conference, but if we’re dreaming…

As a fan, I’d take them back. I enjoyed watching games at College Park and have relatives who went to school there. If collegiate athletics ever returns to a regional endeavor, then they strengthen the conference.

With regards to the ACC, they’ll do whatever makes the most money and helps their schools’ future prospects.

About the schools’ fan bases, they could be convinced.

How could unequal revenue distribution work in the ACC's favor?

If B1G really has designs on continuing to move west, how much do you think the Big Ten would pay the ACC to take Rutgers and Maryland off of their hands?

(10-23-2022 02:33 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  How would the fans from these 2 schools feel about being back in the ACC?

There isn't enough money to make that a worthwhile move. If South Carolina ever gave up the great games we get in the SEC to go back to the ACC, I think it would fully kill my interest in Gamecock football.

(11-07-2022 10:23 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 02:33 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  How would the fans from these 2 schools feel about being back in the ACC?

There isn't enough money to make that a worthwhile move. If South Carolina ever gave up the great games we get in the SEC to go back to the ACC, I think it would fully kill my interest in Gamecock football.

Like the annual contests the Chickens have with Texas A&M? How many times have you made the trip to College Station?

Real fans want games the can touch and see. Most of the Chicken fans that I know would make the trip to Chapel Hill, Raleigh and Winston-Salem every chance they could get and wouldn't mind having to go to Atlanta every other year (it would be their only opportunity to ever play in Atlanta).