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Fun Facts of American Political History Thread
Like to start a thread on this topic to hold interesting facts. Kind of like the insane leftist utopia archive.

I'll go first and suprised I didn't know this.

Thomas Jefferson and John Adam's died on the same day. It also happened to be the 50th anniversary of our country's founding which they were two of the most influential leaders.

July 4, 1826

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RE: Fun Facts of American Political History Thread
Fun fact #1: President Taft was the only President who viewed the job as a stepping-stone to the job he really wanted: Supreme Court justice.

Fun fact #2: John Quincy Adams is the only former President to serve in the House of Representatives.

Fun fact#3: Andrew Johnson is the only former President to serve in the Senate.

Fun fact #4: Other than those three, no other US president held a political position after leaving office.

Not-so fun Fact: FDR knew he was dying, and didn't tell Truman a damn thing about the war. Didn't let him sit in on any meetings. So Truman knew nothing about the war's progress, major strategies, the Soviet penchant for dishonest dealing, or the nuclear bomb.
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RE: Fun Facts of American Political History Thread
1. Civil War General Ulysses S. Grant was invited to join Abraham Lincoln at Ford’s Theatre on the fateful evening of April 14, 1865, but was forced to decline after he and his wife made plans to visit their children in New Jersey.

2. Upon the death of his law partner, Grover Cleveland became the legal guardian to his friend's 11-year-old orphaned daughter. 10 years later, they were married at the White House, making her the youngest First Lady ever at the age of 21 and making him the Woody Allen of the 19th century.

3. Thomas Jefferson was the first president to shake hands with guests. Previously people bowed to Presidents.
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RE: Fun Facts of American Political History Thread
(10-17-2022 08:51 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  1. Civil War General Ulysses S. Grant was invited to join Abraham Lincoln at Ford’s Theatre on the fateful evening of April 14, 1865, but was forced to decline after he and his wife made plans to visit their children in New Jersey.

2. Upon the death of his law partner, Grover Cleveland became the legal guardian to his friend's 11-year-old orphaned daughter. 10 years later, they were married at the White House, making her the youngest First Lady ever at the age of 21 and making him the Woody Allen of the 19th century.

oh my ... I may need to rethink muh #groverII strategy ... just "oh my" to #2..

I got a feeling I'm going to be a jeopardy ninja after you guys fill up this thread with some of the 'inane and obscure'...
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(10-17-2022 07:16 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  FDR knew he was dying, and didn't tell Truman a damn thing about the war. Didn't let him sit in on any meetings. So Truman knew nothing about the war's progress, major strategies, the Soviet penchant for dishonest dealing, or the nuclear bomb.
All true. I think FDR somewhat resented Truman because he (FDR) wanted keep Henry Wallace as VP and the party-bosses just wouldn’t allow it.

General MacArthur saw FDR in July 1944, for the first time in about 3 years. He was shocked at how much FDR had aged, and privately predicted that Roosevelt would be dead within 6 months. This prediction was very close to the truth. In fact, FDR lived another 9 months.
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RE: Fun Facts of American Political History Thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln%E2...ban_legend
Kennedy-Lincoln coincidences:
...Both were elected to congress in '46: Lincoln was elected in 1846 from Illinois,[7][8] and Kennedy was elected in 1946 from Massachusetts.[9][10]
Both were elected to the presidency in '60: Lincoln was elected in 1860,[11][12] and Kennedy was elected in 1960.[13][14]
Both have seven letters in their last names ("Lincoln" and "Kennedy").
Both were concerned with civil rights:
Lincoln felt strongly that all slaves should be freed and issued the Emancipation Proclamation, which legally freed slaves within the Confederacy.[15]
Kennedy was concerned with racial equality and was the first to propose what would be the Civil Rights Act of 1964.[16][17]
Both married in their 30s to women that were in their 20s:
Lincoln was married on November 4, 1842,[18][19] Lincoln was born on February 12, 1809,[15][8] making him 33 years old at the time of his wedding. Lincoln's bride, Mary Anne Todd, was born on December 13, 1818,[20][21] making her 23 years old at the time of the wedding.
Kennedy was married on September 12, 1953,[22][23] Kennedy was born on May 29, 1917,[22][10] making him 36 years old at the time of his wedding. Kennedy's bride, Jacqueline Bouvier, was born on July 28, 1929,[24][25] making her 24 years old at the time of the wedding.
Both were shot on a Friday: Lincoln was shot on Good Friday, April 14, 1865,[15][26] and Kennedy was shot on Friday, November 22, 1963.[27][28]
Both were shot in the head. (Lincoln[29][30] and Kennedy[27][31]).
Both were assassinated by Southerners: Lincoln was shot by John Wilkes Booth from Maryland,[32][33] and Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald from New Orleans, Louisiana.[34][35]
Both of the presidents' successors were named Johnson: Lincoln was succeeded by Andrew Johnson,[36][37] and Kennedy was succeeded by Lyndon B. Johnson.[31][27]
Both were succeeded by Southerners: Andrew Johnson was from Tennessee,[37] and Lyndon B. Johnson was from Texas.[38][39]
Both successors were born in '08: Andrew Johnson was born December 29, 1808,[40][37] and Lyndon B. Johnson was born August 27, 1908[38][39]
Both assassins, John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald, are known by their three names, although this is common for many notorious assassins who are covered by the press (see Mark David Chapman). This is routinely done by the press to avoid tarnishing the reputations of people with similar names (i.e. there are many John Booths, Lee Oswalds, and Mark Chapmans).[41]
Each assassin's full name is composed of fifteen letters...."
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From 1840-1960, every president elected in a year ending in zero died in office. Four were assassinated. 3 died of natural causes.
Reagan broke the streak by successfully surviving being shot.
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RE: Fun Facts of American Political History Thread
(10-17-2022 09:05 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(10-17-2022 07:16 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  FDR knew he was dying, and didn't tell Truman a damn thing about the war. Didn't let him sit in on any meetings. So Truman knew nothing about the war's progress, major strategies, the Soviet penchant for dishonest dealing, or the nuclear bomb.
All true. I think FDR somewhat resented Truman because he (FDR) wanted keep Henry Wallace as VP and the party-bosses just wouldn’t allow it.

General MacArthur saw FDR in July 1944, for the first time in about 3 years. He was shocked at how much FDR had aged, and privately predicted that Roosevelt would be dead within 6 months. This prediction was very close to the truth. In fact, FDR lived another 9 months.

Wallace was a hardcore New Dealer and had expressed an unusual amount of admiration both publicly and behind closed doors for how Uncle Joe ran things in the Soviet Union after a mid-war visit there. FDR wanted to keep him because he knew Wallace would cement his New Deal Legacy, but the party bosses knew:

1) New Deal type initiatives weren't needed or wanted in the post war prosperity they were about to experience.
2) Wallace would at the very least let Stalin walk all over him about Europe and the Far East. At worst he'd try to implement Stalinist ideas here.
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RE: Fun Facts of American Political History Thread
(10-17-2022 06:45 PM)maximus Wrote:  Like to start a thread on this topic to hold interesting facts. Kind of like the insane leftist utopia archive.

I'll go first and suprised I didn't know this.

Thomas Jefferson and John Adam's died on the same day. It also happened to be the 50th anniversary of our country's founding which they were two of the most influential leaders.

July 4, 1826

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John Adam's last words were "Thomas Jefferson still survives".
(But he had actually died 5 hours earlier)
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(10-18-2022 08:01 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  [Henry] Wallace was a hardcore New Dealer and had expressed an unusual amount of admiration both publicly and behind closed doors for how Uncle Joe ran things in the Soviet Union after a mid-war visit there.
Wallace reported to his diary that after a meeting with Zionist leaders who wanted more US support for Israel, Truman blurted out “If Jesus Christ couldn’t satisfy those people, what makes you think I can?” A memorable quote, although in fact Truman did give Israel strong support when the chips were down.
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