ok guys, the MEAC, IVY, and SWAC are offered auto bids for their champions, they do not use them for the reasons I said above. They literally formally decline every year.

(10-23-2022 01:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 12:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-21-2022 07:50 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-20-2022 02:43 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 09:38 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  3 black coaches? Is Norvell black? No, actually I'm singling out FSU coaches & a guy that wants to be their next coach who has a grand total of 2 1/2 yrs total coaching experience at FCS level & who, to this point hasn't even got his school qualified for an FCS championships.

You keep bringing this up, "hasn't even qualified for the FCS championships". So sadly, I have to point out your wrongness.

Deion and JCS won the SWAC with a perfect conference record. The FCS takes all conference champions. So they absolutely qualified. The complication is that the SWAC champ game is played a week after the FCS playoffs have already begun. So the only SWAC team who can go to the playoffs is an At Large team who is not playing in the CCG. Last year it was Florida A&M - the 3rd place SWAC team and a team JSU beat in the regular season. The SWAC has decided they can make more money by playing a CCG and then going to a bowl game, than they can in the FCS playoffs. And who can blame them with their shoestring budgets. Their schedule calendar is similar to an FBS schedule rather than the other FCS schedules.

Deion and JSU won the conference and went to a bowl game. I expect this will go over your head, but I'm putting it out there for everyone else to understand how wrong you are.

Don't buy your spin. The SWAC & MEAC chose to create a bowl years back in which their champions play each other every year as opposed to possibly receiving an invitation for their conference champions to play in the FCS championships. To my knowledge the SWAC & MEAC have never received an auto bid to the FCS playoffs although in the past several SWAC teams have received at-large invitations. It seems to many in the media that if Deion & JSU wanted to prove they are a top level program they would forgo their bowl game & actually compete for the FCS championship. And BTW, why not push the coach at ND St for an FBS job? He's only won the FCS championships the last 2 yrs? And another BTW, there are only 10 FCS conferences that receive autobids to the FCS championships (not including SWAC) & the remaining are at-large bids not guaranteed.

Right.
So the FCS took the 3rd place SWAC team, that JSU had beaten on their way to an undefeated SWAC season, OVER JSU - and the publicity that Deion would have brought to the FCS playoffs.
Because JSU "didn't qualify" but the 3rd place team did.
Makes perfect sense to you, I suppose.

Dude, you're looking bad on this. Please check the FCS schedule dates, see that the playoffs begin BEFORE the SWAC CCG, and just stop.

"Dude", please check the facts. Only 10 conferences get autobids but not the SWAC who have never had an autobid. ALL others, including the SWAC champ or who ever might get a bid are at-large bids. So, unlike what you or your twin say, ALL FCS conference champions DO NOT receive bids. You're just wrong

You're wrong, as everyone has pointed out.
But let's pretend you're right - the SWAC doesn't get an autobid.
So back to your original claim that "Deion has yet to get his team qualified for the FCS playoffs".
How would he do that, with no autobid?
And do you REALLY believe the FCS choose the 3rd place SWAC team over the undefeated SWAC champ JSU?

Answer those 2 questions and we all learn a lot about you. Ignore those questions and we see you can admit you are wrong.

(10-23-2022 03:06 PM)fsquid Wrote:  ok guys, the MEAC, IVY, and SWAC are offered auto bids for their champions, they do not use them for the reasons I said above. They literally formally decline every year.

All but 1 of us know.

I'm not a big SWAC fan. But I googled it and found plenty of articles telling why SWAC champ JSU went to the bowl instead of the FCS playoffs. And it has nothing to do with JSU not being good enough - it's about $$.

(10-23-2022 05:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 03:06 PM)fsquid Wrote:  ok guys, the MEAC, IVY, and SWAC are offered auto bids for their champions, they do not use them for the reasons I said above. They literally formally decline every year.

All but 1 of us know.

I'm not a big SWAC fan. But I googled it and found plenty of articles telling why SWAC champ JSU went to the bowl instead of the FCS playoffs. And it has nothing to do with JSU not being good enough - it's about $$.

I've never said JSU was or wasn't good enough - that's your typical twist to be argumentative. I've simply said that Deion has never qualified his JSU teams to play in the FCS championships - a true statement. And there have also been comments that ALL FCS conferences qualify - which isn't true. Not in the history of the FCS championships has every FCS conference received an autobid or even an at-large bid & in several years even 2nd place FCS conference schools have received at-large bids over conference champions that didn't receive bids. Further, well before SWAC began to play in a SWAC-created conflicting bowl, the SWAC had never received a pre-season qualification nor can I find any evidence that JSU during Deion's time has actually received & turned down an at-large bid. Is Deion's JSU good enough? That's a different question that can be debated but can only be settled conclusively if JSU chooses to play for an FCS championship & receives an at-large bid. But on-the-field results say Deion's JSU teams are not as good as touted, they have lost to LA-Monroe (a low level FBS school with a 4-8 record) & lost in the Celebration Bowl with his best team to a 6-5 SC St team. I'm of the opinion that Deion is simply more talk than substance as a coach but he could change the opinions of a lot of folks if he would have his team play to receive an FCS at-large bid & then show his JSU team could win at that level.

(10-23-2022 05:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 01:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 12:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-21-2022 07:50 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-20-2022 02:43 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  You keep bringing this up, "hasn't even qualified for the FCS championships". So sadly, I have to point out your wrongness.

Deion and JCS won the SWAC with a perfect conference record. The FCS takes all conference champions. So they absolutely qualified. The complication is that the SWAC champ game is played a week after the FCS playoffs have already begun. So the only SWAC team who can go to the playoffs is an At Large team who is not playing in the CCG. Last year it was Florida A&M - the 3rd place SWAC team and a team JSU beat in the regular season. The SWAC has decided they can make more money by playing a CCG and then going to a bowl game, than they can in the FCS playoffs. And who can blame them with their shoestring budgets. Their schedule calendar is similar to an FBS schedule rather than the other FCS schedules.

Deion and JSU won the conference and went to a bowl game. I expect this will go over your head, but I'm putting it out there for everyone else to understand how wrong you are.

Don't buy your spin. The SWAC & MEAC chose to create a bowl years back in which their champions play each other every year as opposed to possibly receiving an invitation for their conference champions to play in the FCS championships. To my knowledge the SWAC & MEAC have never received an auto bid to the FCS playoffs although in the past several SWAC teams have received at-large invitations. It seems to many in the media that if Deion & JSU wanted to prove they are a top level program they would forgo their bowl game & actually compete for the FCS championship. And BTW, why not push the coach at ND St for an FBS job? He's only won the FCS championships the last 2 yrs? And another BTW, there are only 10 FCS conferences that receive autobids to the FCS championships (not including SWAC) & the remaining are at-large bids not guaranteed.

Right.
So the FCS took the 3rd place SWAC team, that JSU had beaten on their way to an undefeated SWAC season, OVER JSU - and the publicity that Deion would have brought to the FCS playoffs.
Because JSU "didn't qualify" but the 3rd place team did.
Makes perfect sense to you, I suppose.

Dude, you're looking bad on this. Please check the FCS schedule dates, see that the playoffs begin BEFORE the SWAC CCG, and just stop.

"Dude", please check the facts. Only 10 conferences get autobids but not the SWAC who have never had an autobid. ALL others, including the SWAC champ or who ever might get a bid are at-large bids. So, unlike what you or your twin say, ALL FCS conference champions DO NOT receive bids. You're just wrong

You're wrong, as everyone has pointed out.
But let's pretend you're right - the SWAC doesn't get an autobid.
So back to your original claim that "Deion has yet to get his team qualified for the FCS playoffs".
How would he do that, with no autobid?
And do you REALLY believe the FCS choose the 3rd place SWAC team over the undefeated SWAC champ JSU?

Answer those 2 questions and we all learn a lot about you. Ignore those questions and we see you can admit you are wrong.

Yep. He avoided these 2 specific questions. Nuff said.

BTW, anyone see where College Gameday is this week?

(10-24-2022 10:18 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 05:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 01:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 12:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-21-2022 07:50 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Don't buy your spin. The SWAC & MEAC chose to create a bowl years back in which their champions play each other every year as opposed to possibly receiving an invitation for their conference champions to play in the FCS championships. To my knowledge the SWAC & MEAC have never received an auto bid to the FCS playoffs although in the past several SWAC teams have received at-large invitations. It seems to many in the media that if Deion & JSU wanted to prove they are a top level program they would forgo their bowl game & actually compete for the FCS championship. And BTW, why not push the coach at ND St for an FBS job? He's only won the FCS championships the last 2 yrs? And another BTW, there are only 10 FCS conferences that receive autobids to the FCS championships (not including SWAC) & the remaining are at-large bids not guaranteed.

Right.
So the FCS took the 3rd place SWAC team, that JSU had beaten on their way to an undefeated SWAC season, OVER JSU - and the publicity that Deion would have brought to the FCS playoffs.
Because JSU "didn't qualify" but the 3rd place team did.
Makes perfect sense to you, I suppose.

Dude, you're looking bad on this. Please check the FCS schedule dates, see that the playoffs begin BEFORE the SWAC CCG, and just stop.

"Dude", please check the facts. Only 10 conferences get autobids but not the SWAC who have never had an autobid. ALL others, including the SWAC champ or who ever might get a bid are at-large bids. So, unlike what you or your twin say, ALL FCS conference champions DO NOT receive bids. You're just wrong

You're wrong, as everyone has pointed out.
But let's pretend you're right - the SWAC doesn't get an autobid.
So back to your original claim that "Deion has yet to get his team qualified for the FCS playoffs".
How would he do that, with no autobid?
And do you REALLY believe the FCS choose the 3rd place SWAC team over the undefeated SWAC champ JSU?

Answer those 2 questions and we all learn a lot about you. Ignore those questions and we see you can admit you are wrong.

Yep. He avoided these 2 specific questions. Nuff said.

BTW, anyone see where College Gameday is this week?

See post #64, "Dude", maybe it will get you back on track.

(10-24-2022 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 10:18 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 05:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 01:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 12:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Right.
So the FCS took the 3rd place SWAC team, that JSU had beaten on their way to an undefeated SWAC season, OVER JSU - and the publicity that Deion would have brought to the FCS playoffs.
Because JSU "didn't qualify" but the 3rd place team did.
Makes perfect sense to you, I suppose.

Dude, you're looking bad on this. Please check the FCS schedule dates, see that the playoffs begin BEFORE the SWAC CCG, and just stop.

"Dude", please check the facts. Only 10 conferences get autobids but not the SWAC who have never had an autobid. ALL others, including the SWAC champ or who ever might get a bid are at-large bids. So, unlike what you or your twin say, ALL FCS conference champions DO NOT receive bids. You're just wrong

You're wrong, as everyone has pointed out.
But let's pretend you're right - the SWAC doesn't get an autobid.
So back to your original claim that "Deion has yet to get his team qualified for the FCS playoffs".
How would he do that, with no autobid?
And do you REALLY believe the FCS choose the 3rd place SWAC team over the undefeated SWAC champ JSU?

Answer those 2 questions and we all learn a lot about you. Ignore those questions and we see you can admit you are wrong.

Yep. He avoided these 2 specific questions. Nuff said.

BTW, anyone see where College Gameday is this week?

See post #64, "Dude", maybe it will get you back on track.

I'm done with the back and forth. You are wrong and everyone knows it. JSU has been "good enough" for the FCS playoffs. Good grief, dood.

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I’m not a fan of Deion. Let’s say he does take the job. He brings in players he stays one season and then there’s a mass exodus. We end up even worse imo. I would rather have Kenny Dillingham or some like P5 OC

Deion wouldn't come here. I think the only jobs he'd take would be FSU. He seems more interested in building JSU and the SWAC. He already has money.

(10-28-2022 11:40 AM)Crazier Wrote:  Deion wouldn't come here. I think the only jobs he'd take would be FSU. He seems more interested in building JSU and the SWAC. He already has money.

I agree I think he’s waiting Norvell out

(10-28-2022 11:40 AM)Crazier Wrote:  Deion wouldn't come here. I think the only jobs he'd take would be FSU. He seems more interested in building JSU and the SWAC. He already has money.

Actually has been quoted as saying to the JSU president that JSU would have to go FBS for him to stay at JSU. But I think he's waiting on MN to fail at FSU to get that job.

(10-28-2022 11:40 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(10-28-2022 11:40 AM)Crazier Wrote:  Deion wouldn't come here. I think the only jobs he'd take would be FSU. He seems more interested in building JSU and the SWAC. He already has money.

I agree I think he’s waiting Norvell out

It will be interesting to see. I think if Norvell has an average season this year and next I can see FSU pulling the plug on him.

(10-24-2022 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 10:18 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 05:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 01:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 12:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Right.
So the FCS took the 3rd place SWAC team, that JSU had beaten on their way to an undefeated SWAC season, OVER JSU - and the publicity that Deion would have brought to the FCS playoffs.
Because JSU "didn't qualify" but the 3rd place team did.
Makes perfect sense to you, I suppose.

Dude, you're looking bad on this. Please check the FCS schedule dates, see that the playoffs begin BEFORE the SWAC CCG, and just stop.

"Dude", please check the facts. Only 10 conferences get autobids but not the SWAC who have never had an autobid. ALL others, including the SWAC champ or who ever might get a bid are at-large bids. So, unlike what you or your twin say, ALL FCS conference champions DO NOT receive bids. You're just wrong

You're wrong, as everyone has pointed out.
But let's pretend you're right - the SWAC doesn't get an autobid.
So back to your original claim that "Deion has yet to get his team qualified for the FCS playoffs".
How would he do that, with no autobid?
And do you REALLY believe the FCS choose the 3rd place SWAC team over the undefeated SWAC champ JSU?

Answer those 2 questions and we all learn a lot about you. Ignore those questions and we see you can admit you are wrong.

Yep. He avoided these 2 specific questions. Nuff said.

BTW, anyone see where College Gameday is this week?

See post #64, "Dude", maybe it will get you back on track.

18-2, their first bowl game in 50 years and easily the best SWAC team by far. Atlanta doubling down on the hilariousness as usual.

(10-29-2022 12:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 10:18 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 05:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 01:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  "Dude", please check the facts. Only 10 conferences get autobids but not the SWAC who have never had an autobid. ALL others, including the SWAC champ or who ever might get a bid are at-large bids. So, unlike what you or your twin say, ALL FCS conference champions DO NOT receive bids. You're just wrong

You're wrong, as everyone has pointed out.
But let's pretend you're right - the SWAC doesn't get an autobid.
So back to your original claim that "Deion has yet to get his team qualified for the FCS playoffs".
How would he do that, with no autobid?
And do you REALLY believe the FCS choose the 3rd place SWAC team over the undefeated SWAC champ JSU?

Answer those 2 questions and we all learn a lot about you. Ignore those questions and we see you can admit you are wrong.

Yep. He avoided these 2 specific questions. Nuff said.

BTW, anyone see where College Gameday is this week?

See post #64, "Dude", maybe it will get you back on track.

18-2, their first bowl game in 50 years and easily the best SWAC team by far. Atlanta doubling down on the hilariousness as usual.

Yep, a bowl game that JSU lost to a 6-5 SC St. Typical Stammers to only tell part reality. You know the same Stammers that not only said repeatedly that Memphis was 2nd ONLY to Cincinnati to get a bid to the B-12 (& we all know how wrong he was) but added personal insults (as usual) at anyone who dared to disagree - his B12 statement being the single most erroneous statement ever made on this forum. Hilarious indeed! And infamous....

(10-28-2022 11:40 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(10-28-2022 11:40 AM)Crazier Wrote:  Deion wouldn't come here. I think the only jobs he'd take would be FSU. He seems more interested in building JSU and the SWAC. He already has money.

I agree I think he’s waiting Norvell out

Why would he wait Norvell out? Are you saying the only place he can win is Memphis. He will be ok

(10-29-2022 10:38 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-29-2022 12:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 10:18 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 05:12 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  You're wrong, as everyone has pointed out.
But let's pretend you're right - the SWAC doesn't get an autobid.
So back to your original claim that "Deion has yet to get his team qualified for the FCS playoffs".
How would he do that, with no autobid?
And do you REALLY believe the FCS choose the 3rd place SWAC team over the undefeated SWAC champ JSU?

Answer those 2 questions and we all learn a lot about you. Ignore those questions and we see you can admit you are wrong.

Yep. He avoided these 2 specific questions. Nuff said.

BTW, anyone see where College Gameday is this week?

See post #64, "Dude", maybe it will get you back on track.

18-2, their first bowl game in 50 years and easily the best SWAC team by far. Atlanta doubling down on the hilariousness as usual.

Yep, a bowl game that JSU lost to a 6-5 SC St. Typical Stammers to only tell part reality. You know the same Stammers that not only said repeatedly that Memphis was 2nd ONLY to Cincinnati to get a bid to the B-12 (& we all know how wrong he was) but added personal insults (as usual) at anyone who dared to disagree - his B12 statement being the single most erroneous statement ever made on this forum. Hilarious indeed! And infamous....

Not erroneous at all; others have posted that Rudd was told twice that we are in. The information was 100% factual. Back on topic...

What is also factual, is that he is 18-2, CLEARLY the best team in the SWAC, took them to their first bowl game in 50 years, and you continue to make a fool of yourself.

Quote:his B12 statement being the single most erroneous statement ever made on this forum. Hilarious indeed! And infamous....

Is that a fact?

TUBBY

Quote:You guys are dreaming, Tubby is here for his contract term. Be a fan, support the team.

Quote:we have the yahoos here who have been on Tubby's back since he was hired & they have done nothing but get more & more irrational in their criticism over the last 10 mos.

Quote:Memphis will be better next year than this year. That gets Tubby to his 5th & last year of his contract.

Quote:Yeah, what happened to all of those stats saying Tubby's teams always fall apart over the last 10 games?

Last 10 games 3-7.

Quote:you have to understand when folks are being critical of Tubby, there are no valid comparisons to show otherwise.

Quote:You whiners turn EVERY THREAD INTO A CRITICIZE THE COACH thread - even when he is clearly out performing JP, the darling of many you.

Quote:there is little additional financial downside having Tubby as the coach.

Quote:I know you folks don't want to hear it but Tubby will not get fired at Memphis while winning 18-20 games. You can keep complaining in new threads over & over but it just won't happen with Tubby being a perceived HOF coach.

I am able to pick out anything you post on and make a fool out of you. This whole Deion thing who you are. Completely free of common sense, facts and cranial activity.

(10-29-2022 11:27 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-28-2022 11:40 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(10-28-2022 11:40 AM)Crazier Wrote:  Deion wouldn't come here. I think the only jobs he'd take would be FSU. He seems more interested in building JSU and the SWAC. He already has money.

I agree I think he’s waiting Norvell out

Why would he wait Norvell out? Are you saying the only place he can win is Memphis. He will be ok

IF Florida State fans give him the time.
They are used to being in the big games. Right now they are 5-3 3-3 in conference.
They are starting to win again...I think next season will tell us how well he will do there. He has to contend for the ACC title at some point... that is why they hired him.

(10-29-2022 12:43 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-29-2022 10:38 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-29-2022 12:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 10:18 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Yep. He avoided these 2 specific questions. Nuff said.

BTW, anyone see where College Gameday is this week?

See post #64, "Dude", maybe it will get you back on track.

18-2, their first bowl game in 50 years and easily the best SWAC team by far. Atlanta doubling down on the hilariousness as usual.

Yep, a bowl game that JSU lost to a 6-5 SC St. Typical Stammers to only tell part reality. You know the same Stammers that not only said repeatedly that Memphis was 2nd ONLY to Cincinnati to get a bid to the B-12 (& we all know how wrong he was) but added personal insults (as usual) at anyone who dared to disagree - his B12 statement being the single most erroneous statement ever made on this forum. Hilarious indeed! And infamous....

Not erroneous at all; others have posted that Rudd was told twice that we are in. The information was 100% factual. Back on topic...

What is also factual, is that he is 18-2, CLEARLY the best team in the SWAC, took them to their first bowl game in 50 years, and you continue to make a fool of yourself.

Quote:his B12 statement being the single most erroneous statement ever made on this forum. Hilarious indeed! And infamous....

Is that a fact?

TUBBY

Quote:You guys are dreaming, Tubby is here for his contract term. Be a fan, support the team.

Quote:we have the yahoos here who have been on Tubby's back since he was hired & they have done nothing but get more & more irrational in their criticism over the last 10 mos.

Quote:Memphis will be better next year than this year. That gets Tubby to his 5th & last year of his contract.

Quote:Yeah, what happened to all of those stats saying Tubby's teams always fall apart over the last 10 games?

Last 10 games 3-7.

Quote:you have to understand when folks are being critical of Tubby, there are no valid comparisons to show otherwise.

Quote:You whiners turn EVERY THREAD INTO A CRITICIZE THE COACH thread - even when he is clearly out performing JP, the darling of many you.

Quote:there is little additional financial downside having Tubby as the coach.

Quote:I know you folks don't want to hear it but Tubby will not get fired at Memphis while winning 18-20 games. You can keep complaining in new threads over & over but it just won't happen with Tubby being a perceived HOF coach.

I am able to pick out anything you post on and make a fool out of you. This whole Deion thing who you are. Completely free of common sense, facts and cranial activity.

You don't make a fool out of anyone but yourself, 2nd to Cincinnati On a message board no less.