(10-17-2022 05:46 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: Set up a Zoom call with Florida State, Norvell, and Deion. Let FSU pick first. We take the other.
Deion would be a train wreck at a P5 school.
Prolly said the same about 1cent
Deion is not quite as humble as Penny. I know Penny has his moments,but Deion is gonna be Prime 24/7 in the P5
Deion would be Willie Taggart part 2, maybe smarter but even more consumed with himself. Can't see him building a lasting culture of team success & discipline which seems to be a major part of the top FBS programs like AL, UGA.
Deion is not quite as humble as Penny. I know Penny has his moments,but Deion is gonna be Prime 24/7 in the P5
Deion would be Willie Taggart part 2, maybe smarter but even more consumed with himself. Can't see him building a lasting culture of team success & discipline which seems to be a major part of the top FBS programs like AL, UGA.
*Do you know anything about him as a coach? He is 20-5. Sounds like the same crap you keep saying about Penny.
(10-18-2022 11:25 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Deion is not quite as humble as Penny. I know Penny has his moments,but Deion is gonna be Prime 24/7 in the P5
For sure.
But he would get NIL $ and recruits. And he could get a staff who can fill in the gaps of his technical skills. He would be good at fundraising. He would sell tix. He would get games on tv.
He's 16-2 the past 2 years, with a conference championship. He signed the overall #1 recruit in the country to a FCS scholly.
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2022 03:03 PM by Tiger87.)
(10-18-2022 10:31 AM)Tiger46 Wrote: Deion would be a train wreck at a P5 school.
Prolly said the same about 1cent
Deion is not quite as humble as Penny. I know Penny has his moments,but Deion is gonna be Prime 24/7 in the P5
Deion would be Willie Taggart part 2, maybe smarter but even more consumed with himself. Can't see him building a lasting culture of team success & discipline which seems to be a major part of the top FBS programs like AL, UGA.
*Do you know anything about him as a coach? He is 20-5. Sounds like the same crap you keep saying about Penny.
* rhetorical question, of course not.
Taggart had some good years to get him the FSU job. Go read the stories about what happened to the FSU program during his tenure.
(10-18-2022 11:22 AM)thagr82008 Wrote: Prolly said the same about 1cent
Deion is not quite as humble as Penny. I know Penny has his moments,but Deion is gonna be Prime 24/7 in the P5
Deion would be Willie Taggart part 2, maybe smarter but even more consumed with himself. Can't see him building a lasting culture of team success & discipline which seems to be a major part of the top FBS programs like AL, UGA.
*Do you know anything about him as a coach? He is 20-5. Sounds like the same crap you keep saying about Penny.
* rhetorical question, of course not.
Taggart had some good years to get him the FSU job. Go read the stories about what happened to the FSU program during his tenure.
I'll tell you what I'm reading. You are accusing one of the world's most recognizable sports and cultural icons of not being humble whilst he is on his 3rd season at Jackson State. How does that make any sense?
Based on what are you comparing Deion Sanders and Willie Taggart? Seriously, aside from one obvious similarity, I can't think of a single one. What else besides skin colour do you have?
(10-18-2022 11:22 AM)thagr82008 Wrote: Prolly said the same about 1cent
Deion is not quite as humble as Penny. I know Penny has his moments,but Deion is gonna be Prime 24/7 in the P5
Deion would be Willie Taggart part 2, maybe smarter but even more consumed with himself. Can't see him building a lasting culture of team success & discipline which seems to be a major part of the top FBS programs like AL, UGA.
*Do you know anything about him as a coach? He is 20-5. Sounds like the same crap you keep saying about Penny.
* rhetorical question, of course not.
Taggart had some good years to get him the FSU job. Go read the stories about what happened to the FSU program during his tenure.
lol
Taggart is a straw man you created and no one else. He has nothing to do with the Deion discussion.
(10-18-2022 11:25 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Deion is not quite as humble as Penny. I know Penny has his moments,but Deion is gonna be Prime 24/7 in the P5
Deion would be Willie Taggart part 2, maybe smarter but even more consumed with himself. Can't see him building a lasting culture of team success & discipline which seems to be a major part of the top FBS programs like AL, UGA.
*Do you know anything about him as a coach? He is 20-5. Sounds like the same crap you keep saying about Penny.
* rhetorical question, of course not.
Taggart had some good years to get him the FSU job. Go read the stories about what happened to the FSU program during his tenure.
lol
Taggart is a straw man you created and no one else. He has nothing to do with the Deion discussion.
Are you completely daff? Deion is identified almost solely with FSU as a replacement for Norvell if the program continues to flounder (according to some media speculation). Taggart was the last disaster at FSU & yet had much more potential for success as a P5 HC given his previous success. Deion has 3 seasons at a FCS level school where his playing fame enables him to out-recruit his competition. Do you really think that experience as a FCS coach qualifies him as a serious candidate at a school like FSU where most all the competition has high level recruits? Wow, you've found the secret to high level FBS success - go find the FCS level coaches with the most bling & who has 3 years of winning (even if he's never qualified his school for an FCS championship beth). They're guaranteed winners in the big leagues & everyone should risk their programs to get such a proven winner.
(10-18-2022 02:03 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Deion would be Willie Taggart part 2, maybe smarter but even more consumed with himself. Can't see him building a lasting culture of team success & discipline which seems to be a major part of the top FBS programs like AL, UGA.
*Do you know anything about him as a coach? He is 20-5. Sounds like the same crap you keep saying about Penny.
* rhetorical question, of course not.
Taggart had some good years to get him the FSU job. Go read the stories about what happened to the FSU program during his tenure.
lol
Taggart is a straw man you created and no one else. He has nothing to do with the Deion discussion.
Are you completely daff? Deion is identified almost solely with FSU as a replacement for Norvell if the program continues to flounder (according to some media speculation). Taggart was the last disaster at FSU & yet had much more potential for success as a P5 HC given his previous success. Deion has 3 seasons at a FCS level school where his playing fame enables him to out-recruit his competition. Do you really think that experience as a FCS coach qualifies him as a serious candidate at a school like FSU where most all the competition has high level recruits? Wow, you've found the secret to high level FBS success - go find the FCS level coaches with the most bling & who has 3 years of winning (even if he's never qualified his school for an FCS championship beth). They're guaranteed winners in the big leagues & everyone should risk their programs to get such a proven winner.
Again, they are both black. What else do you have Einstein?
(10-18-2022 02:03 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Deion would be Willie Taggart part 2, maybe smarter but even more consumed with himself. Can't see him building a lasting culture of team success & discipline which seems to be a major part of the top FBS programs like AL, UGA.
*Do you know anything about him as a coach? He is 20-5. Sounds like the same crap you keep saying about Penny.
* rhetorical question, of course not.
Taggart had some good years to get him the FSU job. Go read the stories about what happened to the FSU program during his tenure.
lol
Taggart is a straw man you created and no one else. He has nothing to do with the Deion discussion.
Are you completely daff? Deion is identified almost solely with FSU as a replacement for Norvell if the program continues to flounder (according to some media speculation). Taggart was the last disaster at FSU & yet had much more potential for success as a P5 HC given his previous success. Deion has 3 seasons at a FCS level school where his playing fame enables him to out-recruit his competition. Do you really think that experience as a FCS coach qualifies him as a serious candidate at a school like FSU where most all the competition has high level recruits? Wow, you've found the secret to high level FBS success - go find the FCS level coaches with the most bling & who has 3 years of winning (even if he's never qualified his school for an FCS championship beth). They're guaranteed winners in the big leagues & everyone should risk their programs to get such a proven winner.
You are a trip.
You bring Taggart into this discussion as a comparison to Deion.
When there is really no comparison between the 2 - as seen by your breakdown of their resumes.
Yet you somehow get offended when no one buys your Taggart comparison (as there is none), and you double-down.
Keep doing you, non-fan.
(10-18-2022 02:57 PM)Stammers Wrote: *Do you know anything about him as a coach? He is 20-5. Sounds like the same crap you keep saying about Penny.
* rhetorical question, of course not.
Taggart had some good years to get him the FSU job. Go read the stories about what happened to the FSU program during his tenure.
lol
Taggart is a straw man you created and no one else. He has nothing to do with the Deion discussion.
Are you completely daff? Deion is identified almost solely with FSU as a replacement for Norvell if the program continues to flounder (according to some media speculation). Taggart was the last disaster at FSU & yet had much more potential for success as a P5 HC given his previous success. Deion has 3 seasons at a FCS level school where his playing fame enables him to out-recruit his competition. Do you really think that experience as a FCS coach qualifies him as a serious candidate at a school like FSU where most all the competition has high level recruits? Wow, you've found the secret to high level FBS success - go find the FCS level coaches with the most bling & who has 3 years of winning (even if he's never qualified his school for an FCS championship beth). They're guaranteed winners in the big leagues & everyone should risk their programs to get such a proven winner.
Again, they are both black. What else do you have Einstein?
Quote:completely daff
You should put this in your Linkedin bio.
It's a bit creepy that he uses the same arguments against Deion that he uses against Penny - and throws Taggart in out of the blue as a comparison.
(10-18-2022 03:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Taggart had some good years to get him the FSU job. Go read the stories about what happened to the FSU program during his tenure.
lol
Taggart is a straw man you created and no one else. He has nothing to do with the Deion discussion.
Are you completely daff? Deion is identified almost solely with FSU as a replacement for Norvell if the program continues to flounder (according to some media speculation). Taggart was the last disaster at FSU & yet had much more potential for success as a P5 HC given his previous success. Deion has 3 seasons at a FCS level school where his playing fame enables him to out-recruit his competition. Do you really think that experience as a FCS coach qualifies him as a serious candidate at a school like FSU where most all the competition has high level recruits? Wow, you've found the secret to high level FBS success - go find the FCS level coaches with the most bling & who has 3 years of winning (even if he's never qualified his school for an FCS championship beth). They're guaranteed winners in the big leagues & everyone should risk their programs to get such a proven winner.
Again, they are both black. What else do you have Einstein?
Quote:completely daff
You should put this in your Linkedin bio.
It's a bit creepy that he uses the same arguments against Deion that he uses against Penny - and throws Taggart in out of the blue as a comparison.
Inexperience is always a sound argument not unique to me, even in this thread And within FCS football despite Deion's wins that you tout, he has yet to qualify JSU for the FCS championships. Yours is simply not a sound basis for Deion being immediately successful at FSU where more qualified coaches like Taggart have been a disaster & where a more qualified Norvell is struggling. FSU can't afford another disaster & the circus around Deion would IMO & many others, insure it. And BTW, other than expressing concern about Penny's inexperience in the past (that has shown up during game mgmt) I have said very little negative about him as a coach.
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He needs to be tarmac'd
