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RE: 2022 Football Week 7 @ Toledo
(10-17-2022 05:08 PM)burden Wrote:  
(10-17-2022 08:22 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  Two years ago Baker Mayfield and Kevin Stefanski were Sun Gods. The Browns finally had their franchise quarterback and their coach. Now Mayfield is gone and Stefanski is getting lots of bad press. Things change. I really do appreciate what Lewis has done but it's clear he is not the miracle worker many hoped he would be. I do believe that if he stays long enough he will win a MAC title, the first since 1972, but it's going to take longer than we wanted to believe. This is his 5th season here. The fact is that since Kent State became what is now FBS in 1962, no coach has done better over at least a 5-year period.

As long as Haslam owns the Browns nothing will improve long term. Deshaun Watson is the latest example. I guess Haslam didn’t realize football players had wives, sisters and daughters.

Kent’s Haslam is it’s budget. As long as they can’t spend more money there’s a pretty low ceiling. Lewis not being hired away yet might be a sign he is not as good as we thought. That defense is awful. Don’t know enough to know why but he doesn’t seem to be able to fix it.

Good points, Burden. From a modern low in 1966, the average total points per game has been going up and up to where it's about doubled. It seems to be happening at all levels, from high school to the NFL. I'm not sure of all the reasons. But still, even in an era when offense dominates, it is possible to have a poor defense, relatively speaking. And KSU's has to get better. I'm not sure how to do, though.
10-18-2022 05:37 AM
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(10-17-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  He’s earning below average in the MAC yet has much more difficult obstacles to chase the same results. They’re paying that salary regardless, and unlike the many other previous hires that had good candidates getting passed over for the eventual hire that bombed, I couldn’t think of anyone out there they passed on that would deliver us better results. I don’t think anyone that had a hand in him being hired and extended has one iota of buyers remorse.

Of course they don’t have remorse, it isn’t their money!

If you truly stop and think about it, paying a football coach anything near or beyond what Lewis is getting is beyond idiotic for a MAC-level school. What is the point? You go 8-4 9-5, get 4,000 people to a home game in November, maybe a trip to Detroit (yay, Michigan in December!) and possibly a bowl trip to a game no one’s ever heard of and no one cares about but the gamblers.

Kent had a season of dreams in 2012 and then won its first bowl game in school history a few years later. What did they get out of it. Dix Stadium looks the same now as it did in 2004.
10-18-2022 05:22 PM
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RE: 2022 Football Week 7 @ Toledo
(10-18-2022 05:22 PM)JimJoyce Wrote:  
(10-17-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  He’s earning below average in the MAC yet has much more difficult obstacles to chase the same results. They’re paying that salary regardless, and unlike the many other previous hires that had good candidates getting passed over for the eventual hire that bombed, I couldn’t think of anyone out there they passed on that would deliver us better results. I don’t think anyone that had a hand in him being hired and extended has one iota of buyers remorse.

Of course they don’t have remorse, it isn’t their money!

If you truly stop and think about it, paying a football coach anything near or beyond what Lewis is getting is beyond idiotic for a MAC-level school. What is the point? You go 8-4 9-5, get 4,000 people to a home game in November, maybe a trip to Detroit (yay, Michigan in December!) and possibly a bowl trip to a game no one’s ever heard of and no one cares about but the gamblers.

Kent had a season of dreams in 2012 and then won its first bowl game in school history a few years later. What did they get out of it. Dix Stadium looks the same now as it did in 2004.
My bad, I mistook you for somebody that pulled for the Kent State football program, now I remember. Carry on with your bashing of the football program…
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10-18-2022 07:08 PM
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In my Yankee hatred sorrow I don't feel like looking it up, but I swear I've heard before that having a good football team has a correlation to increased enrollment.
10-18-2022 09:24 PM
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RE: 2022 Football Week 7 @ Toledo
(10-18-2022 05:22 PM)JimJoyce Wrote:  
(10-17-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  He’s earning below average in the MAC yet has much more difficult obstacles to chase the same results. They’re paying that salary regardless, and unlike the many other previous hires that had good candidates getting passed over for the eventual hire that bombed, I couldn’t think of anyone out there they passed on that would deliver us better results. I don’t think anyone that had a hand in him being hired and extended has one iota of buyers remorse.

Of course they don’t have remorse, it isn’t their money!

If you truly stop and think about it, paying a football coach anything near or beyond what Lewis is getting is beyond idiotic for a MAC-level school. What is the point? You go 8-4 9-5, get 4,000 people to a home game in November, maybe a trip to Detroit (yay, Michigan in December!) and possibly a bowl trip to a game no one’s ever heard of and no one cares about but the gamblers.

Kent had a season of dreams in 2012 and then won its first bowl game in school history a few years later. What did they get out of it. Dix Stadium looks the same now as it did in 2004.

That is actually not even remotely true. There have been renovations and the place was absolutely packed against OU.
10-18-2022 09:27 PM
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RE: 2022 Football Week 7 @ Toledo
(10-18-2022 09:27 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(10-18-2022 05:22 PM)JimJoyce Wrote:  
(10-17-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  He’s earning below average in the MAC yet has much more difficult obstacles to chase the same results. They’re paying that salary regardless, and unlike the many other previous hires that had good candidates getting passed over for the eventual hire that bombed, I couldn’t think of anyone out there they passed on that would deliver us better results. I don’t think anyone that had a hand in him being hired and extended has one iota of buyers remorse.

Of course they don’t have remorse, it isn’t their money!

If you truly stop and think about it, paying a football coach anything near or beyond what Lewis is getting is beyond idiotic for a MAC-level school. What is the point? You go 8-4 9-5, get 4,000 people to a home game in November, maybe a trip to Detroit (yay, Michigan in December!) and possibly a bowl trip to a game no one’s ever heard of and no one cares about but the gamblers.

Kent had a season of dreams in 2012 and then won its first bowl game in school history a few years later. What did they get out of it. Dix Stadium looks the same now as it did in 2004.

That is actually not even remotely true. There have been renovations and the place was absolutely packed against OU.

I am a loyal and dedicated fan who attends nearly all sports events but….
I was in section 4 for OU game. It was far from “packed” not close.
Announced attendance. 20392 in a stadium that today seats 24-25000.

It is the worst stadium in the MAC and like the MAAC center a dump with a fresh coat of paint.

Renovations include removing 7000 seats and installing a ridiculous high school grandstand they call the student section. Stadium Lighting is subpar with many burned out lights that were also burned out last year and never replaced.

Dix is 53 years old and it shows. Concrete cracking and eroding. Rust
everywhere. Look around its pretty bad.

The restrooms are clean and up-to-date. I will give them that.
Kent tries. Our reserved seats this year were infested by bees and un-inhabitable for people. So far our requests for removal of the bees have not happened. Will try again this week.

Kent badly needs an infusion of MAJOR donor money to bring our facilities
Up to standards. Oh, don’t forget we have a championship outdoor track team and NO outdoor track. The so called track by the Health Center is
Unusable with rutts and potholes.
Just saying….
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RE: 2022 Football Week 7 @ Toledo
(10-19-2022 01:53 PM)Older and Older Wrote:  
(10-18-2022 09:27 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(10-18-2022 05:22 PM)JimJoyce Wrote:  
(10-17-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  He’s earning below average in the MAC yet has much more difficult obstacles to chase the same results. They’re paying that salary regardless, and unlike the many other previous hires that had good candidates getting passed over for the eventual hire that bombed, I couldn’t think of anyone out there they passed on that would deliver us better results. I don’t think anyone that had a hand in him being hired and extended has one iota of buyers remorse.

Of course they don’t have remorse, it isn’t their money!

If you truly stop and think about it, paying a football coach anything near or beyond what Lewis is getting is beyond idiotic for a MAC-level school. What is the point? You go 8-4 9-5, get 4,000 people to a home game in November, maybe a trip to Detroit (yay, Michigan in December!) and possibly a bowl trip to a game no one’s ever heard of and no one cares about but the gamblers.

Kent had a season of dreams in 2012 and then won its first bowl game in school history a few years later. What did they get out of it. Dix Stadium looks the same now as it did in 2004.

That is actually not even remotely true. There have been renovations and the place was absolutely packed against OU.

I am a loyal and dedicated fan who attends nearly all sports events but….
I was in section 4 for OU game. It was far from “packed” not close.
Announced attendance. 20392 in a stadium that today seats 24-25000.

It is the worst stadium in the MAC and like the MAAC center a dump with a fresh coat of paint.

Renovations include removing 7000 seats and installing a ridiculous high school grandstand they call the student section. Stadium Lighting is subpar with many burned out lights that were also burned out last year and never replaced.

Dix is 53 years old and it shows. Concrete cracking and eroding. Rust
everywhere. Look around its pretty bad.

The restrooms are clean and up-to-date. I will give them that.
Kent tries. Our reserved seats this year were infested by bees and un-inhabitable for people. So far our requests for removal of the bees have not happened. Will try again this week.

Kent badly needs an infusion of MAJOR donor money to bring our facilities
Up to standards. Oh, don’t forget we have a championship outdoor track team and NO outdoor track. The so called track by the Health Center is
Unusable with rutts and potholes.
Just saying….

Wait a few days and the bees will freeze to death.
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