Boston University CREATES a new Covid strain that has an 80% kill rate — echoing dangerous experiments feared to have started pandemic

(10-17-2022 12:04 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 11:02 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 10:55 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I suppose Jesus Christ, German Jews, and Stalin dissidents also had a choice. They all could have shut up and complied but chose not to. Did they deserve their fates?

If I had a lien on your house, you couldn't pay the debt, and refused to release it unless your wife had sex with me, would it be rape if she willingly did so? That's probably a better analogy. Financial coercion for control of body.

Curious where mlb draws the line between freedom and tyranny. Death? Prison? Rape? Any other consequence is in bounds?

It was illegal, the Supreme Court shut it down, but not before millions took the jab against their better judgement and suffered ill health as a result.

Sigh... I think that is a ridiculous analogy, but okay. At the end of the day, the gov't didn't force me, my employer did. I had a choice, I decided to listen to my doctor and get the shot instead of walking out of my employer. That being said, it was voluntary. Again, you don't like it, get the law changed. Good luck finding a party that will support changing the laws.

I can agree with the last 2 sentences, but sorry, I can't get past the "voluntary" or "choice" argument. If comply or lose your ability to make a living is a choice, where do you draw the line? Comply or die? Comply or go to prison? And while you may well have a schitty employer that did this on their own, the vast majority or employers were under the gun of government so we are really talking about 2 different issues here.

It’s quite clear that it was “Vaccine or lose your Job”, not sure why you are bringing up Prison.

MLB works in healthcare. There are other required vaccines to work in healthcare. The military has a laundry list of vaccines that are required. College students have a laundry list of vaccines required to start as freshmen.

Being required to have a vaccine to do something you choose has a long history in this country. You aren’t forced because you could choose to get a new job. You could choose not to enlist in the Military. You could choose to go to college somewhere else (this is harder because the requirements are mostly the same).

Interesting that you ignore that this "vaccine" is unlike any of the other vaccines ever produced. Or that it does not prevent you from getting covid or spreading it. All for a 'dangerous virus' that has a 99.xxx% survival rate.

(10-17-2022 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 12:04 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 11:02 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 10:55 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I suppose Jesus Christ, German Jews, and Stalin dissidents also had a choice. They all could have shut up and complied but chose not to. Did they deserve their fates?

If I had a lien on your house, you couldn't pay the debt, and refused to release it unless your wife had sex with me, would it be rape if she willingly did so? That's probably a better analogy. Financial coercion for control of body.

Curious where mlb draws the line between freedom and tyranny. Death? Prison? Rape? Any other consequence is in bounds?

It was illegal, the Supreme Court shut it down, but not before millions took the jab against their better judgement and suffered ill health as a result.

Sigh... I think that is a ridiculous analogy, but okay. At the end of the day, the gov't didn't force me, my employer did. I had a choice, I decided to listen to my doctor and get the shot instead of walking out of my employer. That being said, it was voluntary. Again, you don't like it, get the law changed. Good luck finding a party that will support changing the laws.

I can agree with the last 2 sentences, but sorry, I can't get past the "voluntary" or "choice" argument. If comply or lose your ability to make a living is a choice, where do you draw the line? Comply or die? Comply or go to prison? And while you may well have a schitty employer that did this on their own, the vast majority or employers were under the gun of government so we are really talking about 2 different issues here.

It’s quite clear that it was “Vaccine or lose your Job”, not sure why you are bringing up Prison.

MLB works in healthcare. There are other required vaccines to work in healthcare. The military has a laundry list of vaccines that are required. College students have a laundry list of vaccines required to start as freshmen.

Being required to have a vaccine to do something you choose has a long history in this country. You aren’t forced because you could choose to get a new job. You could choose not to enlist in the Military. You could choose to go to college somewhere else (this is harder because the requirements are mostly the same).

quite a big difference when it’s weaponized w/o merit by muh gubbmints … but ewe’ll look past that like any other sheeple…

#cureWorseThanDisease. … and it’s not a fk’n cure, dipshite…

(10-17-2022 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 12:04 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 11:02 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 10:55 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I suppose Jesus Christ, German Jews, and Stalin dissidents also had a choice. They all could have shut up and complied but chose not to. Did they deserve their fates?

If I had a lien on your house, you couldn't pay the debt, and refused to release it unless your wife had sex with me, would it be rape if she willingly did so? That's probably a better analogy. Financial coercion for control of body.

Curious where mlb draws the line between freedom and tyranny. Death? Prison? Rape? Any other consequence is in bounds?

It was illegal, the Supreme Court shut it down, but not before millions took the jab against their better judgement and suffered ill health as a result.

Sigh... I think that is a ridiculous analogy, but okay. At the end of the day, the gov't didn't force me, my employer did. I had a choice, I decided to listen to my doctor and get the shot instead of walking out of my employer. That being said, it was voluntary. Again, you don't like it, get the law changed. Good luck finding a party that will support changing the laws.

I can agree with the last 2 sentences, but sorry, I can't get past the "voluntary" or "choice" argument. If comply or lose your ability to make a living is a choice, where do you draw the line? Comply or die? Comply or go to prison? And while you may well have a schitty employer that did this on their own, the vast majority or employers were under the gun of government so we are really talking about 2 different issues here.

It’s quite clear that it was “Vaccine or lose your Job”, not sure why you are bringing up Prison.

MLB works in healthcare. There are other required vaccines to work in healthcare. The military has a laundry list of vaccines that are required. College students have a laundry list of vaccines required to start as freshmen.

Being required to have a vaccine to do something you choose has a long history in this country. You aren’t forced because you could choose to get a new job. You could choose not to enlist in the Military. You could choose to go to college somewhere else (this is harder because the requirements are mostly the same).

Because I'm trying to figure out where he draws the line between "voluntary" and "involuntary". Compliance is always a choice according to that logic. Some countries erected concentration camps for the unvaxed and at one point the momentum and the rhetoric by some in this country was headed in that direction. NYC had I'm sure some California localities required the shot to participate in society. I assume there is some line that can be crossed where he is not ok with it. Or maybe not. Nobody signed up for this.

(10-17-2022 01:12 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 12:04 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 11:02 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 10:55 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I suppose Jesus Christ, German Jews, and Stalin dissidents also had a choice. They all could have shut up and complied but chose not to. Did they deserve their fates?

If I had a lien on your house, you couldn't pay the debt, and refused to release it unless your wife had sex with me, would it be rape if she willingly did so? That's probably a better analogy. Financial coercion for control of body.

Curious where mlb draws the line between freedom and tyranny. Death? Prison? Rape? Any other consequence is in bounds?

It was illegal, the Supreme Court shut it down, but not before millions took the jab against their better judgement and suffered ill health as a result.

Sigh... I think that is a ridiculous analogy, but okay. At the end of the day, the gov't didn't force me, my employer did. I had a choice, I decided to listen to my doctor and get the shot instead of walking out of my employer. That being said, it was voluntary. Again, you don't like it, get the law changed. Good luck finding a party that will support changing the laws.

I can agree with the last 2 sentences, but sorry, I can't get past the "voluntary" or "choice" argument. If comply or lose your ability to make a living is a choice, where do you draw the line? Comply or die? Comply or go to prison? And while you may well have a schitty employer that did this on their own, the vast majority or employers were under the gun of government so we are really talking about 2 different issues here.

It’s quite clear that it was “Vaccine or lose your Job”, not sure why you are bringing up Prison.

MLB works in healthcare. There are other required vaccines to work in healthcare. The military has a laundry list of vaccines that are required. College students have a laundry list of vaccines required to start as freshmen.

Being required to have a vaccine to do something you choose has a long history in this country. You aren’t forced because you could choose to get a new job. You could choose not to enlist in the Military. You could choose to go to college somewhere else (this is harder because the requirements are mostly the same).

Because I'm trying to figure out where he draws the line between "voluntary" and "involuntary". Compliance is always a choice according to that logic. Some countries erected concentration camps for the unvaxed and at one point the momentum and the rhetoric by some in this country was headed in that direction. NYC had I'm sure some California localities required the shot to participate in society. I assume there is some line that can be crossed where he is not ok with it. Or maybe not. Nobody signed up for this.

Eating at a restaurant is also voluntary (California). No one was put in a concentration camp. Good lord.

(10-17-2022 01:55 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 01:12 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 12:04 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 11:02 AM)mlb Wrote:  Sigh... I think that is a ridiculous analogy, but okay. At the end of the day, the gov't didn't force me, my employer did. I had a choice, I decided to listen to my doctor and get the shot instead of walking out of my employer. That being said, it was voluntary. Again, you don't like it, get the law changed. Good luck finding a party that will support changing the laws.

I can agree with the last 2 sentences, but sorry, I can't get past the "voluntary" or "choice" argument. If comply or lose your ability to make a living is a choice, where do you draw the line? Comply or die? Comply or go to prison? And while you may well have a schitty employer that did this on their own, the vast majority or employers were under the gun of government so we are really talking about 2 different issues here.

It’s quite clear that it was “Vaccine or lose your Job”, not sure why you are bringing up Prison.

MLB works in healthcare. There are other required vaccines to work in healthcare. The military has a laundry list of vaccines that are required. College students have a laundry list of vaccines required to start as freshmen.

Being required to have a vaccine to do something you choose has a long history in this country. You aren’t forced because you could choose to get a new job. You could choose not to enlist in the Military. You could choose to go to college somewhere else (this is harder because the requirements are mostly the same).

Because I'm trying to figure out where he draws the line between "voluntary" and "involuntary". Compliance is always a choice according to that logic. Some countries erected concentration camps for the unvaxed and at one point the momentum and the rhetoric by some in this country was headed in that direction. NYC had I'm sure some California localities required the shot to participate in society. I assume there is some line that can be crossed where he is not ok with it. Or maybe not. Nobody signed up for this.

Eating at a restaurant is also voluntary (California). No one was put in a concentration camp. Good lord.

Would you have been ok with camps? What if they called them "quarantine facilities"?

(10-17-2022 02:13 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 01:55 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 01:12 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 12:04 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I can agree with the last 2 sentences, but sorry, I can't get past the "voluntary" or "choice" argument. If comply or lose your ability to make a living is a choice, where do you draw the line? Comply or die? Comply or go to prison? And while you may well have a schitty employer that did this on their own, the vast majority or employers were under the gun of government so we are really talking about 2 different issues here.

It’s quite clear that it was “Vaccine or lose your Job”, not sure why you are bringing up Prison.

MLB works in healthcare. There are other required vaccines to work in healthcare. The military has a laundry list of vaccines that are required. College students have a laundry list of vaccines required to start as freshmen.

Being required to have a vaccine to do something you choose has a long history in this country. You aren’t forced because you could choose to get a new job. You could choose not to enlist in the Military. You could choose to go to college somewhere else (this is harder because the requirements are mostly the same).

Because I'm trying to figure out where he draws the line between "voluntary" and "involuntary". Compliance is always a choice according to that logic. Some countries erected concentration camps for the unvaxed and at one point the momentum and the rhetoric by some in this country was headed in that direction. NYC had I'm sure some California localities required the shot to participate in society. I assume there is some line that can be crossed where he is not ok with it. Or maybe not. Nobody signed up for this.

Eating at a restaurant is also voluntary (California). No one was put in a concentration camp. Good lord.

Would you have been ok with camps? What if they called them "quarantine facilities"?

So oppressed. Couldn’t go out to eat without a vaccine card and now act like you got put in concentration camps. Absolutely shameful and disrespectful to the people who actually got put in concentration camps in WWII (Both the Japanese here and the much worse ones in Europe).

(10-17-2022 03:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 02:13 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 01:55 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 01:12 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  It’s quite clear that it was “Vaccine or lose your Job”, not sure why you are bringing up Prison.

MLB works in healthcare. There are other required vaccines to work in healthcare. The military has a laundry list of vaccines that are required. College students have a laundry list of vaccines required to start as freshmen.

Being required to have a vaccine to do something you choose has a long history in this country. You aren’t forced because you could choose to get a new job. You could choose not to enlist in the Military. You could choose to go to college somewhere else (this is harder because the requirements are mostly the same).

Because I'm trying to figure out where he draws the line between "voluntary" and "involuntary". Compliance is always a choice according to that logic. Some countries erected concentration camps for the unvaxed and at one point the momentum and the rhetoric by some in this country was headed in that direction. NYC had I'm sure some California localities required the shot to participate in society. I assume there is some line that can be crossed where he is not ok with it. Or maybe not. Nobody signed up for this.

Eating at a restaurant is also voluntary (California). No one was put in a concentration camp. Good lord.

Would you have been ok with camps? What if they called them "quarantine facilities"?

So oppressed. Couldn’t go out to eat without a vaccine card and now act like you got put in concentration camps. Absolutely shameful and disrespectful to the people who actually got put in concentration camps in WWII (Both the Japanese here and the much worse ones in Europe).

Guess you won't answer any questions to help me understand your positioning. Not wasting any more brain cells.

(10-17-2022 03:57 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 03:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 02:13 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 01:55 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 01:12 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Because I'm trying to figure out where he draws the line between "voluntary" and "involuntary". Compliance is always a choice according to that logic. Some countries erected concentration camps for the unvaxed and at one point the momentum and the rhetoric by some in this country was headed in that direction. NYC had I'm sure some California localities required the shot to participate in society. I assume there is some line that can be crossed where he is not ok with it. Or maybe not. Nobody signed up for this.

Eating at a restaurant is also voluntary (California). No one was put in a concentration camp. Good lord.

Would you have been ok with camps? What if they called them "quarantine facilities"?

So oppressed. Couldn’t go out to eat without a vaccine card and now act like you got put in concentration camps. Absolutely shameful and disrespectful to the people who actually got put in concentration camps in WWII (Both the Japanese here and the much worse ones in Europe).

Guess you won't answer any questions to help me understand your positioning. Not wasting any more brain cells.

So oppressed. Couldn’t go to Applebees on a date night and get that Oreo shake with a Burbon Street Steak.

You started wasting brain cells when you started getting mad about imaginary concentration camps. Why you mad about something that didn’t happen?