ncrdbl1
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Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
There are some things so unbelievable that they boggle the mind.
The great pyramid of Giza, the ceiling of the Sistine chapel, Tigers being a 20-point favorite over Temple.
Every bit of data suggests a very low-scoring game.
It is possible that 20 points could win the game.
The Tiger's main concern is OL play.
Temple is very good at pressuring and sacking the QB
The Tigers must find a way to get the running game going and protect Seth.
Against UNT, Seth had one of the worst games of his career.
He'll be facing a much, much tougher defense.
Tiger's defense may need to step up again and create scoring opportunities.
Temple is in the top 10 in passing defense, red zone defense, punt return defense, blocked punts, kick-off return defense, sacks, and are top 20 in total defense, sacks allowed, and scoring defense.
This creates additional issues for the Tiger's underperforming OL.
While Seth has the ability to function as a dual-threat QB, he's far more productive in the pocket.
The OL has to find a way to protect him AND they need to open holes for the running game.
Tigers are among the top in the nation in creating turnovers and must continue that trend this week.
Temple is far more discipline defensively and doesn't gamble as much, this is why they've created only 2 turnovers so far this year.
The only justification for the 20-point line is Temple's offense is more anemic than the Martian blood in the 1953 classic War of the Worlds.
Averaging an AAC low of 279 total yards per game.
If the Tigers play a mistake-free game they should win.
I just can't see a 20-point margin unless the Tigers dramatically improve their level of play.
Through the first four games, the Tigers haven't come close to playing a full 4 quarters.
The Tigers should win but either take the points or keep money in your pocket.
Total Offense
Memphis 64th
Temple 124th
Total Defense
Memphis 107th
Temple 16th
Passing offense
Memphis 47th
Temple 109th
Rushing Offense
Memphis 80th
Temple 121st
Passing Defense
Memphis 123rd
Temple 5th
Rushing Defense
Memphis 53rd
Temple 57th
Red Zone Offense
Memphis 1st
Temple 1st
Red Zone Defense
Memphis 108th
Temple 8th
Net Punting
Memphis 5th
Temple 67th
Punt Returns
Memphis 84th
Temple 111th
Punt Return Defense
Memphis 37th
Temple 5th
Blocked Punts
Memphis n/a
Temple 1st
Blocked Punts Allowed
Memphis 1st
Temple 1st
Kick Off Returns
Memphis 50th
Temple 118th
Kick Off Return Defense
Memphis 111th
Temple 4th
Turnover margin
Memphis 5th
Temple 129th
Fumbles
Memphis 10th
Temple 128th
Fumbles Recovered
Memphis 18th
Temple n/a
Passes Had Intercepted
Memphis 9th
Temple 63rd
Passes Intercepted
Memphis 20th
Temple 84th
Sacks
Memphis 100th
Temple 3rd
Sacks allowed
Memphis 91st
Temple 14th
ToP
Memphis 113th
Temple 91st
Scoring Offense
Memphis 37th
Temple 117th
Scoring Defense
Memphis 100th
Temple 18th
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
Thanks --good stuff
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
Temple undoubtedly has a solid defense. However, some of those stats are misleading. They had 12 sacks combined against Lafayette and UMASS, but only 3 total against Duke and Rutgers. They also had 3 blocked punts against Lafayette, which was their only reason for winning that game by double digits, as far as I can tell.
Our O-Line will need to step it up if our offense expects to move the ball consistently, but overall it’s not that surprising that we’re favored so heavily. Personally, I expect us to win a 28-14 type of game.
Also, this is my first post. Greetings everyone.
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
(09-27-2022 12:47 AM)Pouncer1 Wrote: Temple undoubtedly has a solid defense. However, some of those stats are misleading. They had 12 sacks combined against Lafayette and UMASS, but only 3 total against Duke and Rutgers. They also had 3 blocked punts against Lafayette, which was their only reason for winning that game by double digits, as far as I can tell.
Our O-Line will need to step it up if our offense expects to move the ball consistently, but overall it’s not that surprising that we’re favored so heavily. Personally, I expect us to win a 28-14 type of game.
Also, this is my first post. Greetings everyone.
Welcome to the board. May you have reason for you're post to be many and positive and your complaints few.
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
(09-27-2022 12:47 AM)Pouncer1 Wrote: Temple undoubtedly has a solid defense. However, some of those stats are misleading. They had 12 sacks combined against Lafayette and UMASS, but only 3 total against Duke and Rutgers. They also had 3 blocked punts against Lafayette, which was their only reason for winning that game by double digits, as far as I can tell.
Our O-Line will need to step it up if our offense expects to move the ball consistently, but overall it’s not that surprising that we’re favored so heavily. Personally, I expect us to win a 28-14 type of game.
Also, this is my first post. Greetings everyone.
welcome . Hope you have thick skin
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09-27-2022 07:13 AM |
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jsw3ent
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
(09-27-2022 12:47 AM)Pouncer1 Wrote: Temple undoubtedly has a solid defense. However, some of those stats are misleading. They had 12 sacks combined against Lafayette and UMASS, but only 3 total against Duke and Rutgers. They also had 3 blocked punts against Lafayette, which was their only reason for winning that game by double digits, as far as I can tell.
Our O-Line will need to step it up if our offense expects to move the ball consistently, but overall it’s not that surprising that we’re favored so heavily. Personally, I expect us to win a 28-14 type of game.
Also, this is my first post. Greetings everyone.
Welcome aboard
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09-27-2022 04:54 PM |
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Pouncer1
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
Thanks for the warm welcome. Looking forward to talking more with y’all!
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09-27-2022 09:33 PM |
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
(09-26-2022 11:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: There are some things so unbelievable that they boggle the mind.
The great pyramid of Giza, the ceiling of the Sistine chapel, Tigers being a 20-point favorite over Temple.
Every bit of data suggests a very low-scoring game.
It is possible that 20 points could win the game.
The Tiger's main concern is OL play.
Temple is very good at pressuring and sacking the QB
The Tigers must find a way to get the running game going and protect Seth.
Against UNT, Seth had one of the worst games of his career.
He'll be facing a much, much tougher defense.
Tiger's defense may need to step up again and create scoring opportunities.
Temple is in the top 10 in passing defense, red zone defense, punt return defense, blocked punts, kick-off return defense, sacks, and are top 20 in total defense, sacks allowed, and scoring defense.
This creates additional issues for the Tiger's underperforming OL.
While Seth has the ability to function as a dual-threat QB, he's far more productive in the pocket.
The OL has to find a way to protect him AND they need to open holes for the running game.
Tigers are among the top in the nation in creating turnovers and must continue that trend this week.
Temple is far more discipline defensively and doesn't gamble as much, this is why they've created only 2 turnovers so far this year.
The only justification for the 20-point line is Temple's offense is more anemic than the Martian blood in the 1953 classic War of the Worlds.
Averaging an AAC low of 279 total yards per game.
If the Tigers play a mistake-free game they should win.
I just can't see a 20-point margin unless the Tigers dramatically improve their level of play.
Through the first four games, the Tigers haven't come close to playing a full 4 quarters.
The Tigers should win but either take the points or keep money in your pocket.
Total Offense
Memphis 64th
Temple 124th
Total Defense
Memphis 107th
Temple 16th
Passing offense
Memphis 47th
Temple 109th
Rushing Offense
Memphis 80th
Temple 121st
Passing Defense
Memphis 123rd
Temple 5th
Rushing Defense
Memphis 53rd
Temple 57th
Red Zone Offense
Memphis 1st
Temple 1st
Red Zone Defense
Memphis 108th
Temple 8th
Net Punting
Memphis 5th
Temple 67th
Punt Returns
Memphis 84th
Temple 111th
Punt Return Defense
Memphis 37th
Temple 5th
Blocked Punts
Memphis n/a
Temple 1st
Blocked Punts Allowed
Memphis 1st
Temple 1st
Kick Off Returns
Memphis 50th
Temple 118th
Kick Off Return Defense
Memphis 111th
Temple 4th
Turnover margin
Memphis 5th
Temple 129th
Fumbles
Memphis 10th
Temple 128th
Fumbles Recovered
Memphis 18th
Temple n/a
Passes Had Intercepted
Memphis 9th
Temple 63rd
Passes Intercepted
Memphis 20th
Temple 84th
Sacks
Memphis 100th
Temple 3rd
Sacks allowed
Memphis 91st
Temple 14th
ToP
Memphis 113th
Temple 91st
Scoring Offense
Memphis 37th
Temple 117th
Scoring Defense
Memphis 100th
Temple 18th
If scoring defense means what it says I would have thought our 2 interceptions for TDs would have greatly improved or ranking.
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09-28-2022 07:53 AM |
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ncrdbl1
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
(09-28-2022 07:53 AM)Atlanta Wrote: (09-26-2022 11:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: There are some things so unbelievable that they boggle the mind.
The great pyramid of Giza, the ceiling of the Sistine chapel, Tigers being a 20-point favorite over Temple.
Every bit of data suggests a very low-scoring game.
It is possible that 20 points could win the game.
The Tiger's main concern is OL play.
Temple is very good at pressuring and sacking the QB
The Tigers must find a way to get the running game going and protect Seth.
Against UNT, Seth had one of the worst games of his career.
He'll be facing a much, much tougher defense.
Tiger's defense may need to step up again and create scoring opportunities.
Temple is in the top 10 in passing defense, red zone defense, punt return defense, blocked punts, kick-off return defense, sacks, and are top 20 in total defense, sacks allowed, and scoring defense.
This creates additional issues for the Tiger's underperforming OL.
While Seth has the ability to function as a dual-threat QB, he's far more productive in the pocket.
The OL has to find a way to protect him AND they need to open holes for the running game.
Tigers are among the top in the nation in creating turnovers and must continue that trend this week.
Temple is far more discipline defensively and doesn't gamble as much, this is why they've created only 2 turnovers so far this year.
The only justification for the 20-point line is Temple's offense is more anemic than the Martian blood in the 1953 classic War of the Worlds.
Averaging an AAC low of 279 total yards per game.
If the Tigers play a mistake-free game they should win.
I just can't see a 20-point margin unless the Tigers dramatically improve their level of play.
Through the first four games, the Tigers haven't come close to playing a full 4 quarters.
The Tigers should win but either take the points or keep money in your pocket.
Total Offense
Memphis 64th
Temple 124th
Total Defense
Memphis 107th
Temple 16th
Passing offense
Memphis 47th
Temple 109th
Rushing Offense
Memphis 80th
Temple 121st
Passing Defense
Memphis 123rd
Temple 5th
Rushing Defense
Memphis 53rd
Temple 57th
Red Zone Offense
Memphis 1st
Temple 1st
Red Zone Defense
Memphis 108th
Temple 8th
Net Punting
Memphis 5th
Temple 67th
Punt Returns
Memphis 84th
Temple 111th
Punt Return Defense
Memphis 37th
Temple 5th
Blocked Punts
Memphis n/a
Temple 1st
Blocked Punts Allowed
Memphis 1st
Temple 1st
Kick Off Returns
Memphis 50th
Temple 118th
Kick Off Return Defense
Memphis 111th
Temple 4th
Turnover margin
Memphis 5th
Temple 129th
Fumbles
Memphis 10th
Temple 128th
Fumbles Recovered
Memphis 18th
Temple n/a
Passes Had Intercepted
Memphis 9th
Temple 63rd
Passes Intercepted
Memphis 20th
Temple 84th
Sacks
Memphis 100th
Temple 3rd
Sacks allowed
Memphis 91st
Temple 14th
ToP
Memphis 113th
Temple 91st
Scoring Offense
Memphis 37th
Temple 117th
Scoring Defense
Memphis 100th
Temple 18th
If scoring defense means what it says I would have thought our 2 interceptions for TDs would have greatly improved or ranking.
Short way to describe points given up per game.
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09-28-2022 09:02 AM |
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
How can Temple be 1st in Red Zone Offense, but 117th in Scoring Offense?
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09-28-2022 09:10 AM |
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
(09-28-2022 09:10 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: How can Temple be 1st in Red Zone Offense, but 117th in Scoring Offense?
If temple reaches the red zone they score
Outside of that, not so much
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09-28-2022 09:59 AM |
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
(09-28-2022 09:59 AM)Unionman76 Wrote: (09-28-2022 09:10 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: How can Temple be 1st in Red Zone Offense, but 117th in Scoring Offense?
If temple reaches the red zone they score
Outside of that, not so much
Got it. Seems weird that there is that much disparity. But comprende.
Next 2 questions, are we both really tied for #1 Red Zone O? What's that based upon points from the RZ, % scores within the RZ, etc?
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09-28-2022 10:15 AM |
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
(09-28-2022 10:15 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (09-28-2022 09:59 AM)Unionman76 Wrote: (09-28-2022 09:10 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: How can Temple be 1st in Red Zone Offense, but 117th in Scoring Offense?
If temple reaches the red zone they score
Outside of that, not so much
Got it. Seems weird that there is that much disparity. But comprende.
Next 2 questions, are we both really tied for #1 Red Zone O? What's that based upon points from the RZ, % scores within the RZ, etc?
if you reach the rz 10 times and score 10 times you are 100%
if you reach the rz 2 times and score 2 times you are 100%
it can be either td or field goal
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09-28-2022 10:37 AM |
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
I like avg pts from the RZ as a better metric, but thanks.
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09-28-2022 11:53 AM |
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RE: Tigers vs Temple by the numbers
If I had a staff I could present a deeper more detailed analysis of the stats. But it's just not possible to do so as a single individual, especially with the amount of historical research I have going on with another project.
"By The Numbers" and the 4 "Last 10 Coaches" are just pet projects I do along with running several fantasy leagues to break up the drawn out hours of research. They are a healthy break, especially in those periods when my research hits a dead end. It gets frustrating when you have a promising lead to have it dry up and not produce any results.
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