Quote:On Wednesday evening, the House passed a bill that aims to modify the process in which the Electoral College certifies its votes during an election season.

The Presidential Election Reform Act, or HR 8873, passed in the house chamber in a 229-203 vote, with nine Republicans voting alongside Democrats in the days, according to the Washington Post.

The bill, which was written by Republican Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney and Democrat California Rep. Zoe Lofgren, specifically invokes the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021 and former President Donald Trump as reasons that the Electoral Count Act of 1887 should be amended "to prevent other future unlawful efforts to overturn Presidential elections and to ensure future peaceful transfers of Presidential power."

The bill states that no "person acting under color of law shall willfully fail or refuse to tabulate, count, or report any vote that is timely cast and is otherwise valid under applicable State and Federal law; or certify the aggregate tabulations of such votes or certify the election of the candidates receiving sufficient such votes to be elected to office."

In addition, the law affirms that the sitting Vice President would have no role in the process beyond being a figurehead, barring them from changing the results, a measure that references Trump’s push to have Pence reject electoral votes on January 6.

“Legal challenges are not improper, but Donald Trump’s refusal to abide by the rulings of the courts certainly was,” Cheney said Wednesday during House debate on the measure. “In our system of government, elections in the states determine who is the president. Our bill does not change that. But this bill will prevent Congress from illegally choosing the president itself.”

Cheney later added, “This bill is a very important and crucial bill to ensure that what happened on January 6 never happens again.”

A similar measure has been introduced in the senate, written jointly by West Virginia Democratic Rep. Joe Manchin and Maine Republican Rep. Susan Collins, called the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act.

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And why did 203 vote against?

'Timely cast and otherwise valid' this does nothing to ensure election integrity based on the numerous unconstitutional events of the 2020 election.

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Libturds - Pence had no authority to stop the electoral college count

Also Libturds - We have to change the law to ensure the vice president cant stop the electoral college count

The problem is that republicans spent the summer of 2020 with eyes wide shut, while democrats made a mockery of our already overly lax voting procedures. I get how it happened in some states, where republicans were such never-Trump RINOs that they were more willing to see Joe Biden as president of the USA than Donald Trump as head of the republican party, but the bottom line is that we allowed the 2020 election to be conducted under such lax election security controls that it is not possible to know whether the election was stolen or not.

To be clear, neither I nor anyone else can say that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Donald Trump. But neither I nor anyone else can say that is wasn't either, because the election security was so lacking that it is not possible to know. And one thing voting fraudsters understand full well is that once a ballot gets into the box, it's not coming back out.

(09-22-2022 03:41 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  To be clear, neither I nor anyone else can say that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Donald Trump. But neither I nor anyone else can say that is wasn't either,

You can. It's called proof, of which Donald Trump has none of, and the DoJ has in values greater than none (countering his claim).

Also, asking someone to prove something doesn't exist is one of the biggest logical fallacies out there. I refer you to Bertrand Russell on his opinions on this topic.

(09-22-2022 05:24 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  DoJ has in values greater than none

No, they don't. Nobody can prove anything from the process that took place.