(09-28-2022 02:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Dana O’Neil is a fantastic sportswriter. Great read.

It was a good read but that Memphisians thing??

(09-28-2022 05:39 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 08:05 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Hard to believe he has only won one title with all that talent he has gotten.

Most of their coaches have underachieved. Joe B only had 1 title. Pitino only had 1 there. Tubby got one in his first year. Rupp had 4 but he was there 40 years.

Pitino had 3 final fours a championship and a runner-up. Tubby's NC was with Pitino's players.

Role players with no superstar.
Came back from a big deficit to beat Duke.

Fuente absolutely tanked the 2015 Temple game.

There was no energy. Nothing but a vanilla gameplan.

(09-28-2022 08:39 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/box...mphis.html

Cal looked messed up out of sorts. He coached as if he wasn't into it.

Bottom line. His coaching cost us that game. He did things I had never seen before. Our team looked leaderless.

Whether he did it on purpose or not is irrelevant. Some part of him didn't effffing care anymore.

(09-29-2022 12:41 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 08:39 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/box...mphis.html

Cal looked messed up out of sorts. He coached as if he wasn't into it.

Bottom line. His coaching cost us that game. He did things I had never seen before. Our team looked leaderless.

Whether he did it on purpose or not is irrelevant. Some part of him didn't effffing care anymore.

He also had a history of Mike Anderson's teams kicking his rear end. And that was one of Andersons best teams.

(09-29-2022 02:00 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 12:41 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 08:39 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/box...mphis.html

Cal looked messed up out of sorts. He coached as if he wasn't into it.

Bottom line. His coaching cost us that game. He did things I had never seen before. Our team looked leaderless.

Whether he did it on purpose or not is irrelevant. Some part of him didn't effffing care anymore.

He had those Burger King all-Americans.


He also had a history of Mike Anderson's teams kicking his rear end. And that was one of Andersons best teams.

(09-28-2022 07:09 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 05:39 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 08:05 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Hard to believe he has only won one title with all that talent he has gotten.

Most of their coaches have underachieved. Joe B only had 1 title. Pitino only had 1 there. Tubby got one in his first year. Rupp had 4 but he was there 40 years.

Pitino had 3 final fours a championship and a runner-up. Tubby's NC was with Pitino's players.

Pitino would have won 4 titles had he stayed longer. He wasn't there that long and took over the program on heavy probation.

I suspect he has regretted walking away from that job for decades.

He seemed to be the GUY! Much like Jay Wright did after his most recent Natty. And how every other coach is put on a pedestal by the media after winning it all. However, Pitino is special IMO.

He also won 2013 title at Louisville over Michigan. It was stripped. But he won it, just like we went to the National Champ Game in 2008.

(09-28-2022 08:48 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 02:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Dana O’Neil is a fantastic sportswriter. Great read.

It was a good read but that Memphisians thing??

Yeah, first time I thought it was a typo. But it's used multiple times. Weird.

(09-28-2022 03:23 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 10:32 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  It's funny. Cal went against Billy Gillispie at TAMU in the 2007 NCAA. I told a UK buddy that the loser of that game would probably be his next coach. Cal won, Billy G lost and got hired at UK. Cal wanted the job then. You know that he made a mental note of how that went down. Then it's not a big leap to think that he would not make the mistake of winning and advancing the next time.

I don't follow, why take the loser?

The winner would be advancing, and UK would have to wait. They didn't want to wait. It was rumored that Gillispie and Cal were the 2 candidates. I figured the deal would be done before the winner finished playing in the tourney.

(09-29-2022 09:42 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 08:48 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 02:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Dana O’Neil is a fantastic sportswriter. Great read.

It was a good read but that Memphisians thing??

Yeah, first time I thought it was a typo. But it's used multiple times. Weird.

That weirdness aside, it's a fantastic article.

Ok I finally read it. Memphisians? Smh and Pastner did NOT leave on his own accord. We had to pay him for several years. Horrible journalism

Had he stayed I truly believe we would no longer have a football program. If we did it would look like U Conn’s.

(09-29-2022 01:29 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Had he stayed I truly believe we would no longer have a football program. If we did it would look like U Conn’s.

So a good basketball team hurts the football program ?

(09-29-2022 01:55 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 01:29 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Had he stayed I truly believe we would no longer have a football program. If we did it would look like U Conn’s.

So a good basketball team hurts the football program ?

around here? many truly believe so

(09-29-2022 01:55 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 01:29 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Had he stayed I truly believe we would no longer have a football program. If we did it would look like U Conn’s.

So a good basketball team hurts the football program ?

It did when Shirley Raines & RC Johnson were in charge.

(09-29-2022 02:23 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 01:55 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 01:29 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Had he stayed I truly believe we would no longer have a football program. If we did it would look like U Conn’s.

So a good basketball team hurts the football program ?

It did when Shirley Raines & RC Johnson were in charge.

So now it’s the fault of Raines and Johnson? I thought it was Calipari that was the culprit? Funny how at Kentucky he hasn’t killed the football program there. Last I checked they are in the top 10. Has he become more of a football loving basketball coach in his old age?

(09-27-2022 12:37 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Who cares

I always find it interesting that it takes so long for the truth we all can see to 'come out'. When it finally does everyone is beyond caring.

Sure, Penny is here and is growing into the job but he has a long, long, long way to go to accomplish what X did here. Pastner was left on the job way to long and then Grandpa Huxtable was a seriously dumb*** hire. Penny wasn't ready for the job but it seems he wasn't going to be anyone's assistant so - 12-13 years after X the program is still struggling along to find its footing.

(09-29-2022 05:02 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 02:23 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 01:55 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 01:29 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Had he stayed I truly believe we would no longer have a football program. If we did it would look like U Conn’s.

So a good basketball team hurts the football program ?

It did when Shirley Raines & RC Johnson were in charge.

So now it’s the fault of Raines and Johnson? I thought it was Calipari that was the culprit? Funny how at Kentucky he hasn’t killed the football program there. Last I checked they are in the top 10. Has he become more of a football loving basketball coach in his old age?

Cal has to be the big banana. There's no denying that.

The prevailing thought is that Cal wanted ALL the resources, and did not care whether we ever built a fb program. RC was a willing accomplice, and Shirley didn't care. Anyway, that's the theory.

It's funny that now that UK has their fb program rolling, Cal just last month tried another of his maneuvers demanding new facilities publicly. It fell flat. Stoops clapped back at him publicly, the school ignored his requests, and most of the fan base chastised him for it.

(09-28-2022 11:28 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 05:39 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-28-2022 08:05 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Hard to believe he has only won one title with all that talent he has gotten.

Most of their coaches have underachieved. Joe B only had 1 title. Pitino only had 1 there. Tubby got one in his first year. Rupp had 4 but he was there 40 years.

Pitino had 3 final fours a championship and a runner-up. Tubby's NC was with Pitino's players.

Role players with no superstar.
Came back from a big deficit to beat Duke.

(09-29-2022 05:02 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 02:23 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 01:55 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 01:29 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Had he stayed I truly believe we would no longer have a football program. If we did it would look like U Conn’s.

So a good basketball team hurts the football program ?

It did when Shirley Raines & RC Johnson were in charge.

So now it’s the fault of Raines and Johnson? I thought it was Calipari that was the culprit? Funny how at Kentucky he hasn’t killed the football program there. Last I checked they are in the top 10. Has he become more of a football loving basketball coach in his old age?

Every year they vastly overrate some SEC teams, this year Florida and Tennessee...and UK.
UK has had some weak OL play....will be tested against Ole Prius.

(09-29-2022 05:08 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(09-27-2022 12:37 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Who cares

I always find it interesting that it takes so long for the truth we all can see to 'come out'. When it finally does everyone is beyond caring.

Sure, Penny is here and is growing into the job but he has a long, long, long way to go to accomplish what X did here. Pastner was left on the job way to long and then Grandpa Huxtable was a seriously dumb*** hire. Penny wasn't ready for the job but it seems he wasn't going to be anyone's assistant so - 12-13 years after X the program is still struggling along to find its footing.

I suspect no one will ever duplicate the run Cal had here from 2006-2009.

Holding anyone to that standard will always be grossly unfair.